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Postby Thermodolia » Thu Apr 02, 2020 10:41 am

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Postby Ethel mermania » Thu Apr 02, 2020 10:45 am

The Black Forrest wrote:
Unstoppable Empire of Doom wrote:
Well iirc islam says cats are clean. Meanwhile cats infect people all the time. I agree that letting a dog lick you is disgusting (let alone your face). Those are probably the same people who have said they would choose their pets life over that of a stranger.

I always found it interesting that in the last 150~ years humanity went from washing with water to washing with soap, conditioner, shampoo and backing it up with half a dozen other things. While this has certainly helped with disease and smells, I suspect it will eventually lower our ability to resist certain things. Might be thousands of years from now but still.


*shrugs*. Don’t own a dog then.

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The Greater Ohio Valley
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Postby The Greater Ohio Valley » Thu Apr 02, 2020 10:52 am


Didn't we already know this a week or so ago?
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Postby Jerzylvania » Thu Apr 02, 2020 10:53 am

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Jerzylvania wrote:
Oh def that's what we need. (perhaps also sparing us the estimated 50 million people SF killed worldwide)


Hopefully. I know we’re also banking on that vaccine, which regardless of what this virus does now, we need. Especially if it becomes endemic. There’s worry of that happening too.

The key seems to be finding a treatment that alters/damages/kills the binding of the virus’s spike receptors with us.


Exactly. If it cannot unlock the door to the cell it can't replicate.
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Postby The New California Republic » Thu Apr 02, 2020 10:53 am

The Greater Ohio Valley wrote:

Didn't we already know this a week or so ago?

I think it was known, hence social distancing even if someone is not showing symptoms such as coughing.
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Postby The Greater Ohio Valley » Thu Apr 02, 2020 10:55 am

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Jerzylvania wrote:
Oh def that's what we need. (perhaps also sparing us the estimated 50 million people SF killed worldwide)


Hopefully. I know we’re also banking on that vaccine, which regardless of what this virus does now, we need. Especially if it becomes endemic. There’s worry of that happening too.

The key seems to be finding a treatment that alters/damages/kills the binding of the virus’s spike receptors with us.

Getting an effective treatment (or multiple treatments, the more the merrier) should be top priority right now since a vaccine is likely further out than treatments could be in terms of R&D and quality control.
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Postby Shanghai industrial complex » Thu Apr 02, 2020 10:55 am

Unstoppable Empire of Doom wrote:
Shanghai industrial complex wrote:
Why did believing trump at that time?It's just as stupid to ask politicians to recommend medicine as it is to believe that dogs can collect money.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=eQwqkO_IRlw


Oh so cute!I want to put a pair of glasses on it. Too smart.
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Postby New Visayan Islands » Thu Apr 02, 2020 10:56 am

The Greater Ohio Valley wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Hopefully. I know we’re also banking on that vaccine, which regardless of what this virus does now, we need. Especially if it becomes endemic. There’s worry of that happening too.

The key seems to be finding a treatment that alters/damages/kills the binding of the virus’s spike receptors with us.

Getting an effective treatment (or multiple treatments, the more the merrier) should be top priority right now since a vaccine is likely further out than treatments could be in terms of R&D and quality control.

What's this I hear about convalescent serum being another Hail Mary?
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Postby Jerzylvania » Thu Apr 02, 2020 10:57 am

The Greater Ohio Valley wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Hopefully. I know we’re also banking on that vaccine, which regardless of what this virus does now, we need. Especially if it becomes endemic. There’s worry of that happening too.

The key seems to be finding a treatment that alters/damages/kills the binding of the virus’s spike receptors with us.

Getting an effective treatment (or multiple treatments, the more the merrier) should be top priority right now since a vaccine is likely further out than treatments could be in terms of R&D and quality control.

The odds of getting an effective vaccine aren't really that great either.
Donald Trump has no clue as to what "insuring the domestic tranquility" means

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Postby The Greater Ohio Valley » Thu Apr 02, 2020 10:57 am

The New California Republic wrote:
The Greater Ohio Valley wrote:Didn't we already know this a week or so ago?

I think it was known, hence social distancing even if someone is not showing symptoms such as coughing.

I thought so, cuz I could've sworn I heard information that it could be aerosolized at least a week ago.
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"Choke on the ashes of your hate."
- Free speech
- Weapons rights
- Democracy
- LGBTQ+ rights
- Racial equality
- Gender/sexual equality
- Voting rights
- Universal healthcare
- Workers rights
- Drug decriminalization
- Cannabis legalization
- Due process
- Rehabilitative justice
- Religious freedom
- Choice
- Environmental protections
- Secularism
ANTI
- Fascism/Nazism
- Conservatism
- Nationalism
- Authoritarianism/Totalitarianism
- Traditionalism
- Ethnic/racial supremacy
- Racism
- Sexism
- Transphobia
- Homophobia
- Religious extremism
- Laissez-faire capitalism
- Warmongering
- Accelerationism
- Isolationism
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- Anti-intellectualism
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The Greater Ohio Valley
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Postby The Greater Ohio Valley » Thu Apr 02, 2020 10:58 am

Jerzylvania wrote:
The Greater Ohio Valley wrote:Getting an effective treatment (or multiple treatments, the more the merrier) should be top priority right now since a vaccine is likely further out than treatments could be in terms of R&D and quality control.

The odds of getting an effective vaccine aren't really that great either.

I'm sure we'll get there, we got there with flu so we can get there with corona.
Occasionally the Neo-American States
"Choke on the ashes of your hate."
- Free speech
- Weapons rights
- Democracy
- LGBTQ+ rights
- Racial equality
- Gender/sexual equality
- Voting rights
- Universal healthcare
- Workers rights
- Drug decriminalization
- Cannabis legalization
- Due process
- Rehabilitative justice
- Religious freedom
- Choice
- Environmental protections
- Secularism
ANTI
- Fascism/Nazism
- Conservatism
- Nationalism
- Authoritarianism/Totalitarianism
- Traditionalism
- Ethnic/racial supremacy
- Racism
- Sexism
- Transphobia
- Homophobia
- Religious extremism
- Laissez-faire capitalism
- Warmongering
- Accelerationism
- Isolationism
- Theocracy
- Anti-intellectualism
- Climate change denialism

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Postby Jerzylvania » Thu Apr 02, 2020 11:13 am

The Greater Ohio Valley wrote:
Jerzylvania wrote:The odds of getting an effective vaccine aren't really that great either.

I'm sure we'll get there, we got there with flu so we can get there with corona.


Trouble is the genus Coronaviridae includes species of the cold virus as well as CoVID19. They're notorious for high mutation rates which can invalidate vaccines quickly. That's why there's no cold vaccine. But we can still hope any vaccine created is effective for a long enough while to gain ground on this little monster.
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Postby Purpelia » Thu Apr 02, 2020 11:15 am

We are all going to die.
Purpelia does not reflect my actual world views. In fact, the vast majority of Purpelian cannon is meant to shock and thus deliberately insane. I just like playing with the idea of a country of madmen utterly convinced that everyone else are the barbarians. So play along or not but don't ever think it's for real.



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Postby Galactic Powers » Thu Apr 02, 2020 11:16 am

Purpelia wrote:We are all going to die.

No were not. Don't say stuff like that.
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Postby Fartsniffage » Thu Apr 02, 2020 11:17 am

Galactic Powers wrote:
Purpelia wrote:We are all going to die.

No were not. Don't say stuff like that.


Technically he's right.

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Postby Jerzylvania » Thu Apr 02, 2020 11:18 am

Purpelia wrote:We are all going to die.

Eventually. And not at the same time. Same as it's ever been. Trick is to put it off as long as possible.
Donald Trump has no clue as to what "insuring the domestic tranquility" means

The Baltimore Orioles are shocking the baseball world!

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Postby Moscareinas » Thu Apr 02, 2020 11:18 am

hey guys i'm still awake, how are you all --



have no fear! we got social distancing for that!

we gotta stay the course, protect everyone we can, shoulder everyone's burdens so we can get out of this sooner

as long as we have leaders who know what they're doing, leaders and not just parodies of leadership at best, leaders who are adults and not petulant bullies, leaders who in fact are leaders, we should be fine
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Postby Ifreann » Thu Apr 02, 2020 11:20 am

Fartsniffage wrote:
Galactic Powers wrote:No were not. Don't say stuff like that.


Technically he's right.

Pfft, mortals.
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Postby Moscareinas » Thu Apr 02, 2020 11:24 am

Purpelia wrote:We are all going to die.

No. NO.

Mass death is the easy way out of this mess, and it would be massively comforting, at least for me, if we can all die without further pain and suffering from having collectively chosen the wrong people, and not always for the worst of reasons too.

But it we cannot have a painless death, a death without suffering, then we must choose to live painfully. Live with regret, live with recrimination, live with suffering, live with the choices we made, that our elders made for us.

But live, all the same, support each other, all the same, till we get ourselves out of this deep, dark rut.
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Moscans are torn about Madagascar.

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Postby Fartsniffage » Thu Apr 02, 2020 11:26 am

Ifreann wrote:
Fartsniffage wrote:
Technically he's right.

Pfft, mortals.


At least we don't have to worry about that snail all the time.

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Postby Jerzylvania » Thu Apr 02, 2020 11:28 am

*puts on Jean Luc Ponty music*
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Postby The Alma Mater » Thu Apr 02, 2020 11:28 am

Purpelia wrote:We are all going to die.

And then you will rise again.
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Postby Jerzylvania » Thu Apr 02, 2020 11:29 am

The Alma Mater wrote:
Purpelia wrote:We are all going to die.

And then you will rise again.

A body is like a car. Once it's wrecked you'll find another.
Donald Trump has no clue as to what "insuring the domestic tranquility" means

The Baltimore Orioles are shocking the baseball world!

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Postby The Alma Mater » Thu Apr 02, 2020 11:30 am

Jerzylvania wrote:
The Alma Mater wrote:And then you will rise again.

A body is like a car. Once it's wrecked you'll find another.

There is a whole netflix serie around that premise.
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Postby Pyrghium » Thu Apr 02, 2020 11:31 am

Jerzylvania wrote:
The Greater Ohio Valley wrote:I'm sure we'll get there, we got there with flu so we can get there with corona.


Trouble is the genus Coronaviridae includes species of the cold virus as well as CoVID19. They're notorious for high mutation rates which can invalidate vaccines quickly. That's why there's no cold vaccine. But we can still hope any vaccine created is effective for a long enough while to gain ground on this little monster.

But there’s a good chance it might not be, and we could see repeated outbreaks in the near future. Things could die down for a few months, or even years, and then suddenly there could be another outbreak. This is why the Government’s draconian containment measures are basically useless; because another strain could come back later down the line and kill tons of people, anyways. Plus, the Economy has already taken irreparable damage, and it may collapse before this whole story is over. People’s lives and livelihoods are being destroyed, and the Government bailing out the major corporations and throwing piecemeal bits of cash at the citizens will not be enough to right the Ship of State. If this goes on long enough, and the Government tries too hard to force people’s compliance, whilst showing themselves powerless to ease people’s economic and socio-political woes, there could be a lot of social unrest and in some countries, even mass revolt. This is definitely going to be one for the History Books, and the World will not be the same, by the time this Crisis has abated.

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