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Luminesa
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Postby Luminesa » Tue Mar 31, 2020 4:47 pm

Nakena wrote:
Diopolis wrote:There's no need to take zinc unless you start coming down with symptoms.


Theres general health benefits to zinc, specifically for wound healing and skin condition. Not related to Corona however afaik.

You can eat certain foods to get zinc, as well.

https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/be ... gh-in-zinc
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Postby Nakena » Tue Mar 31, 2020 4:48 pm

Luminesa wrote:
Nakena wrote:
Theres general health benefits to zinc, specifically for wound healing and skin condition. Not related to Corona however afaik.

You can eat certain foods to get zinc, as well.

https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/be ... gh-in-zinc


I luv dark choclet.

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Postby Rojava Free State » Tue Mar 31, 2020 4:48 pm

Luminesa wrote:
Nakena wrote:
Theres general health benefits to zinc, specifically for wound healing and skin condition. Not related to Corona however afaik.

You can eat certain foods to get zinc, as well.

https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/be ... gh-in-zinc


One thing I'm doing differently when this is all over is really really taking care of my health.

8 glasses of water a day. Making sure I'm getting my intake of minerals and vitamins. Sleeping 9 hours a night. Going outside alot more.
Rojava Free State wrote:Listen yall. I'm only gonna say it once but I want you to remember it. This ain't a world fit for good men. It seems like you gotta be monstrous just to make it. Gotta have a little bit of darkness within you just to survive. You gotta stoop low everyday it seems like. Stoop all the way down to the devil in these times. And then one day you look in the mirror and you realize that you ain't you anymore. You're just another monster, and thanks to your actions, someone else will eventually become as warped and twisted as you. Never forget that the best of us are just the best of a bad lot. Being at the top of a pile of feces doesn't make you anything but shit like the rest. Never forget that.

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Seangoli
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Postby Seangoli » Tue Mar 31, 2020 4:48 pm

Vetalia wrote:
Nakena wrote:
Theres general health benefits to zinc, specifically for wound healing and skin condition. Not related to Corona however afaik.


Zinc is important for general immune support but AFAIK it doesn't have any direct impact on COVID-19. Vitamin D is specifically related to susceptibility to respiratory infections and many people are deficient in it due to the winter so it is definitely a major supplement to focus on, especially in the Northern Hemisphere.

Note of course that taking these supplements doesn't make you immune, nor does it cure anything, but at the very least it helps you stay on your guard against exposure to the virus if it does happen.


Zinc can disrupt a viruses ability to replicate. Now, the amount of zinc needed to do this in the body is likely toxic and comes with other, very serious, problems, however there is reason to think that Zinc Lazenges and syrups used as cold remedies could do something, as they have been proven to work on other upper respiratory viruses. The key is to use them before the virus migrates to the lungs, and it might provide some benefit. If you use them before developing the breathing problems and pneumonia, it could (hypothetically) prevent more serious infections. Once it's in your lungs, however, they are useless.

So basically, as soon as you develop a cough or sore throat, start popping the lazenges at no more than the recommended dailies. At worst it does nothing, but if you catch it early enough you might prevent further infection of the lower Respiratory system.

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Luminesa
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Postby Luminesa » Tue Mar 31, 2020 4:50 pm

Rojava Free State wrote:
Luminesa wrote:You can eat certain foods to get zinc, as well.

https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/be ... gh-in-zinc


One thing I'm doing differently when this is all over is really really taking care of my health.

8 glasses of water a day. Making sure I'm getting my intake of minerals and vitamins. Sleeping 9 hours a night. Going outside alot more.

I need to drink more water myself, though I mostly already subsist on coffee and water anyway.
Catholic, pro-life, and proud of it. I prefer my debates on religion, politics, and sports with some coffee and a little Aquinas and G.K. CHESTERTON here and there. :3
Unofficial #1 fan of the Who Dat Nation.
"I'm just a singer of simple songs, I'm not a real political man. I watch CNN, but I'm not sure I can tell you the difference in Iraq and Iran. But I know Jesus, and I talk to God, and I remember this from when I was young:
faith, hope and love are some good things He gave us...
and the greatest is love."
-Alan Jackson
Help the Ukrainian people, here's some sources!
Help bring home First Nation girls! Now with more ways to help!
Jesus loves all of His children in Eastern Europe - pray for peace.
Pray for Ukraine, Wear Sunflowers In Your Hair

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Postby Luminesa » Tue Mar 31, 2020 4:52 pm

Nakena wrote:
Luminesa wrote:You can eat certain foods to get zinc, as well.

https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/be ... gh-in-zinc


I luv dark choclet.

I do too, it's also got good amounts of magnesium apparently, but I may need to fact-check that.
Catholic, pro-life, and proud of it. I prefer my debates on religion, politics, and sports with some coffee and a little Aquinas and G.K. CHESTERTON here and there. :3
Unofficial #1 fan of the Who Dat Nation.
"I'm just a singer of simple songs, I'm not a real political man. I watch CNN, but I'm not sure I can tell you the difference in Iraq and Iran. But I know Jesus, and I talk to God, and I remember this from when I was young:
faith, hope and love are some good things He gave us...
and the greatest is love."
-Alan Jackson
Help the Ukrainian people, here's some sources!
Help bring home First Nation girls! Now with more ways to help!
Jesus loves all of His children in Eastern Europe - pray for peace.
Pray for Ukraine, Wear Sunflowers In Your Hair

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Moscareinas
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Postby Moscareinas » Tue Mar 31, 2020 4:57 pm

Nakena wrote:
Luminesa wrote:You can eat certain foods to get zinc, as well.

https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/be ... gh-in-zinc


I luv dark choclet.


did somebody say... xocolatl?
Moscareinas is an unexpectedly prosperous democratic republic whose territories include 54% of the western Indian Ocean, the IRL BIOT, Comoros, Mayotte, the Seychelles, Mauritius, and Reunion. Not included: Madagascar.

Moscans are torn about Madagascar.

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Vetalia
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Postby Vetalia » Tue Mar 31, 2020 5:00 pm

Luminesa wrote:
Vetalia wrote:
I think it's mostly an insurance policy against people who don't act this way.

So far I've been batting 1.000 against any respiratory infections this year, I really think the Vitamin D and zinc supplementation have made a big difference.

I had an upper respiratory infection in January, but I'm over it now. It wasn't serious, but it did keep me home. Very uncomfortable.


It might have honestly been COVID-19...
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Vetalia
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Postby Vetalia » Tue Mar 31, 2020 5:03 pm

Seangoli wrote:
Vetalia wrote:
Zinc is important for general immune support but AFAIK it doesn't have any direct impact on COVID-19. Vitamin D is specifically related to susceptibility to respiratory infections and many people are deficient in it due to the winter so it is definitely a major supplement to focus on, especially in the Northern Hemisphere.

Note of course that taking these supplements doesn't make you immune, nor does it cure anything, but at the very least it helps you stay on your guard against exposure to the virus if it does happen.


Zinc can disrupt a viruses ability to replicate. Now, the amount of zinc needed to do this in the body is likely toxic and comes with other, very serious, problems, however there is reason to think that Zinc Lazenges and syrups used as cold remedies could do something, as they have been proven to work on other upper respiratory viruses. The key is to use them before the virus migrates to the lungs, and it might provide some benefit. If you use them before developing the breathing problems and pneumonia, it could (hypothetically) prevent more serious infections. Once it's in your lungs, however, they are useless.

So basically, as soon as you develop a cough or sore throat, start popping the lazenges at no more than the recommended dailies. At worst it does nothing, but if you catch it early enough you might prevent further infection of the lower Respiratory system.


Sound advice.

Take Vitamin D too!
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Ethel mermania
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Postby Ethel mermania » Tue Mar 31, 2020 5:05 pm

Diopolis wrote:
Vetalia wrote:
I think you'll be fine. Just keep your distance, wash your hands and listen to the public health officials.

And take Vitamin D and zinc. I cannot stress this enough.

There's no need to take zinc unless you start coming down with symptoms.


It’s good for your nails
https://www.hvst.com/posts/the-clash-of ... s-wl2TQBpY

The West won the world not by the superiority of its ideas or values or religion … but rather by its superiority in applying organized violence. Westerners often forget this fact; non-Westerners never do.
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Postby Farnhamia » Tue Mar 31, 2020 5:07 pm

Ethel mermania wrote:
Diopolis wrote:There's no need to take zinc unless you start coming down with symptoms.


It’s good for your nails

Thernsy is zinc.
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Postby Vetalia » Tue Mar 31, 2020 5:07 pm

Ethel mermania wrote:
Diopolis wrote:There's no need to take zinc unless you start coming down with symptoms.


It’s good for your nails


It's good for everything, really. Also take magnesium in one of its more available forms.
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Ethel mermania
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Postby Ethel mermania » Tue Mar 31, 2020 5:08 pm

Farnhamia wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:
It’s good for your nails

Thernsy is zinc.


I never knew that. I will have to discuss this
https://www.hvst.com/posts/the-clash-of ... s-wl2TQBpY

The West won the world not by the superiority of its ideas or values or religion … but rather by its superiority in applying organized violence. Westerners often forget this fact; non-Westerners never do.
--S. Huntington

The most fundamental problem of politics is not the control of wickedness but the limitation of righteousness. 

--H. Kissenger

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Postby Farnhamia » Tue Mar 31, 2020 5:09 pm

Ethel mermania wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:Thernsy is zinc.


I never knew that. I will have to discuss this

Turned 30, zinc is atomic number 30 ... QED.
Make Earth Great Again: Stop Continental Drift!
And Jesus was a sailor when he walked upon the water ...
"Make yourself at home, Frank. Hit somebody." RIP Don Rickles
My country, right or wrong; if right, to be kept right; and if wrong, to be set right. ~ Carl Schurz
<Sigh> NSG...where even the atheists are Augustinians. ~ The Archregimancy
Now the foot is on the other hand ~ Kannap
RIP Dyakovo ... Ashmoria (Freedom ... or cake)
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Postby Xmara » Tue Mar 31, 2020 5:13 pm

Great news! My friend does not have COVID-19!
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Postby Ethel mermania » Tue Mar 31, 2020 5:13 pm

Farnhamia wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:
I never knew that. I will have to discuss this

Turned 30, zinc is atomic number 30 ... QED.


It the time of apocolayptic calamity, i am looking to cut costs in any way i can, and if The Holy Therns is made of zinc and the ingestation of zinc is good for us. I am seeing this as a win - win.
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The West won the world not by the superiority of its ideas or values or religion … but rather by its superiority in applying organized violence. Westerners often forget this fact; non-Westerners never do.
--S. Huntington

The most fundamental problem of politics is not the control of wickedness but the limitation of righteousness. 

--H. Kissenger

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Postby Farnhamia » Tue Mar 31, 2020 5:13 pm

Xmara wrote:Great news! My friend does not have COVID-19!

:clap:
Make Earth Great Again: Stop Continental Drift!
And Jesus was a sailor when he walked upon the water ...
"Make yourself at home, Frank. Hit somebody." RIP Don Rickles
My country, right or wrong; if right, to be kept right; and if wrong, to be set right. ~ Carl Schurz
<Sigh> NSG...where even the atheists are Augustinians. ~ The Archregimancy
Now the foot is on the other hand ~ Kannap
RIP Dyakovo ... Ashmoria (Freedom ... or cake)
This is the eighth line. If your signature is longer, it's too long.

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Postby Moscareinas » Tue Mar 31, 2020 5:14 pm

Xmara wrote:Great news! My friend does not have COVID-19!


is she ok though?
Moscareinas is an unexpectedly prosperous democratic republic whose territories include 54% of the western Indian Ocean, the IRL BIOT, Comoros, Mayotte, the Seychelles, Mauritius, and Reunion. Not included: Madagascar.

Moscans are torn about Madagascar.

(Yes, I'm Dahon. Please.)

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Ethel mermania
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Postby Ethel mermania » Tue Mar 31, 2020 5:15 pm

Farnhamia wrote:
Xmara wrote:Great news! My friend does not have COVID-19!

:clap:


Indeed
https://www.hvst.com/posts/the-clash-of ... s-wl2TQBpY

The West won the world not by the superiority of its ideas or values or religion … but rather by its superiority in applying organized violence. Westerners often forget this fact; non-Westerners never do.
--S. Huntington

The most fundamental problem of politics is not the control of wickedness but the limitation of righteousness. 

--H. Kissenger

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Luminesa
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Postby Luminesa » Tue Mar 31, 2020 5:19 pm

Xmara wrote:Great news! My friend does not have COVID-19!

Yay! Make sure she stays home and recovers from whatever she had, though! :hug:
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"I'm just a singer of simple songs, I'm not a real political man. I watch CNN, but I'm not sure I can tell you the difference in Iraq and Iran. But I know Jesus, and I talk to God, and I remember this from when I was young:
faith, hope and love are some good things He gave us...
and the greatest is love."
-Alan Jackson
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Postby Zapato » Tue Mar 31, 2020 5:29 pm

I never though I'd see the White House set 100 - 240 000 deaths as their goal...

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Postby Moscareinas » Tue Mar 31, 2020 5:30 pm

Zapato wrote:I never though I'd see the White House set 100 - 240 000 deaths as their goal...

(Image)


prepare to call him the greatest president of all time, everyone!
Moscareinas is an unexpectedly prosperous democratic republic whose territories include 54% of the western Indian Ocean, the IRL BIOT, Comoros, Mayotte, the Seychelles, Mauritius, and Reunion. Not included: Madagascar.

Moscans are torn about Madagascar.

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Postby Rojava Free State » Tue Mar 31, 2020 5:33 pm

Zapato wrote:I never though I'd see the White House set 100 - 240 000 deaths as their goal...

(Image)


"I'm doing great." -Donald Trump when 200,000 people die after he spent weeks denying the severity of the coronavirus.
Rojava Free State wrote:Listen yall. I'm only gonna say it once but I want you to remember it. This ain't a world fit for good men. It seems like you gotta be monstrous just to make it. Gotta have a little bit of darkness within you just to survive. You gotta stoop low everyday it seems like. Stoop all the way down to the devil in these times. And then one day you look in the mirror and you realize that you ain't you anymore. You're just another monster, and thanks to your actions, someone else will eventually become as warped and twisted as you. Never forget that the best of us are just the best of a bad lot. Being at the top of a pile of feces doesn't make you anything but shit like the rest. Never forget that.

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Postby Luminesa » Tue Mar 31, 2020 5:43 pm

200,000 people is roughly the population of Baton Rouge.

:(
Catholic, pro-life, and proud of it. I prefer my debates on religion, politics, and sports with some coffee and a little Aquinas and G.K. CHESTERTON here and there. :3
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"I'm just a singer of simple songs, I'm not a real political man. I watch CNN, but I'm not sure I can tell you the difference in Iraq and Iran. But I know Jesus, and I talk to God, and I remember this from when I was young:
faith, hope and love are some good things He gave us...
and the greatest is love."
-Alan Jackson
Help the Ukrainian people, here's some sources!
Help bring home First Nation girls! Now with more ways to help!
Jesus loves all of His children in Eastern Europe - pray for peace.
Pray for Ukraine, Wear Sunflowers In Your Hair

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Vetalia
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Postby Vetalia » Tue Mar 31, 2020 5:43 pm

I bet there will be less than 25,000 deaths, tops.
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