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[RIP] Edward Limonov, Founder of Nazbol Inc. Dies at 77.

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[RIP] Edward Limonov, Founder of Nazbol Inc. Dies at 77.

Postby Nouveau Quebecois » Thu Mar 19, 2020 12:27 pm

:(

God bless you Limonov.

On the 17th of March, 2020 (17/03/20), founder of National Bolshevik Party and popular Russian political dissident Edward Limonov passed away after a long battle with cancer.

His death has come as a huge blow to all 38 Nazbols across the globe, including myself. At the ripe age of 77, it was too soon. A handgrenade among political party poppers, as the Moscow Times put it, his mourning will be tough, and moving on almost an impossibility.

Since 2001, Limonov had been making a name for his political activism and has taken strong stances against both domestic and foreign governments, including a stint in jail for charges the likes of "terrorism". Later, he would start the Strategy-31 civil protests to promote the right of peaceful assembly in Russia. In his last years of political activism, Limonov attempted to establish The Other Russia as the successor to the NazBol Party after it was banned, but as of yet, the party remains unregistered. Former Deputy Prime Minister of the Russian Government, Boris Nemtsov, said The Other Russia "united national-bolsheviks, nationalists, liberals, social-democrats, and socialists", adding that "there are no parties similar to that one anywhere in the world". :(

In addition to being the CEO of Based Dept. Limonov was also an avid writer in his past time. Popular for his cynicism, Limonov has written a variety of books of both the political, sociological, and narrative kind. As a Frenchmen, my personal favourite is his collection of short stories in Napoleon's Cognac.

Personally, I will find it difficult to make it through the day knowing my Greatest Hero has fallen, but I always remind myself I have to be strong; it's what he would've wanted.

God bless you Limonov, a hand-grenade amongst party poppers. :bow:
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Postby United Muscovite Nations » Thu Mar 19, 2020 12:42 pm

I actually liked him. Wasn't nearly as crazy as the memes would have you believe.
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Postby Nakena » Thu Mar 19, 2020 12:44 pm

An very interesting fellow he was. With some unorthodox and thought provoking takes. He'd be missed.

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Postby Nouveau Quebecois » Thu Mar 19, 2020 12:45 pm

Nakena wrote:An very interesting fellow he was. With some unorthodox and thought provoking takes. He'd be missed.

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Postby Trollzyn the Infinite » Thu Mar 19, 2020 2:39 pm

No tears from me.
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Postby Sharania » Thu Mar 19, 2020 2:45 pm

Oh no, a fascist war criminal died who participation in a genocide. To make matters worse, by the end of his life he became Putin’s Ukrainophobic lapdog, supporting Crimea’s occupation and Russia’s aggression against Ukraine.

Limonov literally shot at civilians during the siege of Sarajevo along with convicted war criminal Karadzic. There isn’t much to mourn.

Nazbols absolutely deserve to be canceled and called fascists.
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Postby Trollzyn the Infinite » Thu Mar 19, 2020 2:49 pm

Sharania wrote:Oh no, a fascist war criminal died who participation in a genocide. To make matters worse, by the end of his life he became Putin’s Ukrainophobic lapdog, supporting Crimea’s occupation and Russia’s aggression against Ukraine.

Limonov literally shot at civilians during the siege of Sarajevo along with convicted war criminal Karadzic. There isn’t much to mourn.

Nazbols absolutely deserve to be canceled and called fascists.


NazBols aren't Fascists. They're the Russian equivalent of Ba'athists: Ultranationalist Socialists.

And no, being an Ultranationalist Socialist doesn't make you a Fascist.
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Postby The Holy Therns » Thu Mar 19, 2020 2:52 pm

That's unfortunate for him, then.
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Postby Nouveau Quebecois » Thu Mar 19, 2020 2:53 pm

Sharania wrote:Oh no, a fascist war criminal died who participation in a genocide. To make matters worse, by the end of his life he became Putin’s Ukrainophobic lapdog, supporting Crimea’s occupation and Russia’s aggression against Ukraine.

Limonov literally shot at civilians during the siege of Sarajevo along with convicted war criminal Karadzic. There isn’t much to mourn.

Nazbols absolutely deserve to be canceled and called fascists.

It's not all bad, Dugin's still alive and kicking so there's that.
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Postby Nakena » Thu Mar 19, 2020 3:00 pm

Wasn't it mostly a meme ideology?

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Postby Nouveau Quebecois » Thu Mar 19, 2020 3:02 pm

Nakena wrote:Wasn't it mostly a meme ideology?

It was the meme ideology.
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Postby Trollzyn the Infinite » Thu Mar 19, 2020 3:05 pm

Nouveau Quebecois wrote:
Sharania wrote:Oh no, a fascist war criminal died who participation in a genocide. To make matters worse, by the end of his life he became Putin’s Ukrainophobic lapdog, supporting Crimea’s occupation and Russia’s aggression against Ukraine.

Limonov literally shot at civilians during the siege of Sarajevo along with convicted war criminal Karadzic. There isn’t much to mourn.

Nazbols absolutely deserve to be canceled and called fascists.

It's not all bad, Dugin's still alive and kicking so there's that.


How dreadful.

Nakena wrote:Wasn't it mostly a meme ideology?


So was Kekistan.

And yet...
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Postby The Liberated Territories » Thu Mar 19, 2020 3:12 pm

I'm not shedding any tears for the inventor of a shitty (albeit hilarious) ideology.
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Postby Albennia » Thu Mar 19, 2020 3:20 pm

A truly tragic, awful event, one made even worse by the fact I only found out through NSG.

Nouveau Quebecois wrote:It's not all bad, Dugin's still alive and kicking so there's that.

And may he live at least fifty years more!
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Postby Nouveau Quebecois » Thu Mar 19, 2020 3:27 pm

Albennia wrote:A truly tragic, awful event, one made even worse by the fact I only found out through NSG.

This truly is an international bruh moment :(
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Postby Risottia » Thu Mar 19, 2020 3:32 pm

Nouveau Quebecois wrote: National Bolshevik Party

The mere concept of "National Bolshevism" is so mind-boggling...
...well, considering how the Nazis were officially "National Socialists", not so weird.

It's just the usual fucking fascists: serving the best interests of the reactionary bourgeoisie while waving a reddish flag.
With the more ludicrous aspect that, of all countries, this specific variant of fascists popped up in the country that was most targeted by the fascists for extermination.

Slavic Nazis. Makes about as much sense as Jewish Nazis ffs.
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Postby The Holy Therns » Thu Mar 19, 2020 3:35 pm

Risottia wrote:
Nouveau Quebecois wrote: National Bolshevik Party

The mere concept of "National Bolshevism" is so mind-boggling...
...well, considering how the Nazis were officially "National Socialists", not so weird.

It's just the usual fucking fascists: serving the best interests of the reactionary bourgeoisie while waving a reddish flag.
With the more ludicrous aspect that, of all countries, this specific variant of fascists popped up in the country that was most targeted by the fascists for extermination.

Slavic Nazis. Makes about as much sense as Jewish Nazis ffs.


Yea, nothing of any particular value was lost here.
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Postby Nouveau Quebecois » Thu Mar 19, 2020 3:35 pm

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Slavic Nazis. Makes about as much sense as Jewish Nazis ffs.

Uh, hello? Based department?
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Postby Nouveau Quebecois » Thu Mar 19, 2020 3:36 pm

The Holy Therns wrote:
Risottia wrote:The mere concept of "National Bolshevism" is so mind-boggling...
...well, considering how the Nazis were officially "National Socialists", not so weird.

It's just the usual fucking fascists: serving the best interests of the reactionary bourgeoisie while waving a reddish flag.
With the more ludicrous aspect that, of all countries, this specific variant of fascists popped up in the country that was most targeted by the fascists for extermination.

Slavic Nazis. Makes about as much sense as Jewish Nazis ffs.


Yea, nothing of any particular value was lost here.

Sorry fellas, but that's gonna be a ticket and a fine for illegal cringeposting.
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Postby Sharania » Thu Mar 19, 2020 3:46 pm

Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:NazBols aren't Fascists.


Yes, they are:

The co-chairman of the National Salvation Front was Aleksandr Prokhanov, who was also the editor in chief of Dyen, the mouthpiece of the National Salvation Front, which published the vilest anti-Semitism such as excerpts of the Protocols of the Elders of Zion and expressed support for Western neo-Nazis. Also involved in the National Salvation Front were Aleksandr Dugin, who was published in and helped edit Dyen, and Eduard Limonov, a former Russian exile who had been part of punk and leftist circles in the US, met Alain de Benoist in Paris, and participated in the Yugoslav war on the side of Radovan Karadzic before returning to Russia and joining the red-brown opposition to Yeltsin. Limonov was conscious that overt fascism had no means of succeeding in Russia because of the legacy of the Soviet Union’s participation in the Second World War and therefore he decided to attempt introducing it there through covert ways, and he and Dugin instead formed the National Bolshevik Front, which was itself part of the National Salvation Front and occupied a prominent position in the Russian counter culture...

...The winners of [1994] elections, however, included the the KPRF, which won 32 seats in the State Duma, and the misleadingly-named far-right Liberal Democratic Party of Russia of hardline far-right nationalist Vladimir Zhirinovsky (who had been close to Eduard Limonov around that time, Limonov having toured him around Paris in 1992, where he introduced Zhirinovsky to Jean-Marie Le Pen, who subsequently endorsed Zhirinovsky’s presidential bid), which won 59 seats, as result of the anti-Yeltsin protest vote...

Faced with economic and social deterioration in Russia, Yelstin took an increasingly racist populist turn and started targeting ethnic minorities in Russia in the mid-1990s and in 1994 invaded Chechnya. At this point the National Salvation Front began to disaggregate, prominent National Salvation Front members criticizing the war while Zhirinovsky, Limonov and Barkashov instead supported Yeltsin’s policies and the bloodbath unleashed in Chechnya, with Limonov leaving the Front and lambasting its members opposed to the war as “moderates”. Around this time Limonov broke with Zhirinovsky, who went on to throw his support behind Yeltsin in 1998.


Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:They're the Russian equivalent of Ba'athists: Ultranationalist Socialists.


Wow. Sooooo different!

Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:And no, being an Ultranationalist Socialist doesn't make you a Fascist.


No, it's because you are a nationalist, and you, nationalists, don't like to be called fascists - even when it fits.
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Postby Risottia » Thu Mar 19, 2020 3:46 pm

Nouveau Quebecois wrote:
The Holy Therns wrote:
Yea, nothing of any particular value was lost here.

Sorry fellas, but that's gonna be a ticket and a fine for illegal cringeposting.

Sorry, dude, but that's not for you to rule about. If you think any post violated a rule, you are most welcome to file a report in Moderation.

And Slavic Nazis continue to make about as much sense as First Nations hailing General Custer as a hero.
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Postby The Holy Therns » Thu Mar 19, 2020 3:47 pm

Nouveau Quebecois wrote:
The Holy Therns wrote:
Yea, nothing of any particular value was lost here.

Sorry fellas, but that's gonna be a ticket and a fine for illegal cringeposting.


It shocks me to realize it but I think I can live without your approval.
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Postby Heloin » Thu Mar 19, 2020 3:53 pm

I can’t tell if the OP is being sarcastic or not.

Anyways, bad man dead. Cool I guess.

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Postby Nouveau Quebecois » Thu Mar 19, 2020 4:00 pm

The Holy Therns wrote:
Nouveau Quebecois wrote:Sorry fellas, but that's gonna be a ticket and a fine for illegal cringeposting.


It shocks me to realize it but I think I can live without your approval.

Risottia wrote:
Nouveau Quebecois wrote:Sorry fellas, but that's gonna be a ticket and a fine for illegal cringeposting.

Sorry, dude, but that's not for you to rule about. If you think any post violated a rule, you are most welcome to file a report in Moderation.

Do you guys drink by any chance?
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