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Postby New haven america » Tue Mar 31, 2020 6:09 pm

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New haven america wrote:The irony is that they're asexual and yet act as if they hold the definitive moral standard on how sex/sexuality should be practiced.

Not the first one on the site to be this way though, and probably not the last either.


I have never heard of Asexual who thinks that it's wrong to have sex before. Sure, they don't want to, don't feel anything about it, or some even feel disgusted, but telling that it's wrong? :?:

Oh, it's been a common belief for a lot of asexuals on this site for a while now.

Zweite Alaje for example, who believed that humans should be artificially bread in tubes to keep sex from happening.
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Postby Moscareinas » Tue Mar 31, 2020 6:10 pm

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well, would you like people to stop fucking? everyone? just our libido to go full stop for the rest of our lives, and for our young ones to never know the pleasure of sex?

for that won't do, that won't do at all

I would personally prefer that people only have sex for the purpose of having children and not possess a libido or sexual desire, but I recognize that that is not realistic.


people in victorian england thought that, and unironically embraced sex with prostitutes as the more moral option than sex with wives, to devastating consequences in an age before the condom and the pill
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Postby Moscareinas » Tue Mar 31, 2020 6:11 pm

New haven america wrote:
Purple Rats wrote:
I have never heard of Asexual who thinks that it's wrong to have sex before. Sure, they don't want to, don't feel anything about it, or some even feel disgusted, but telling that it's wrong? :?:

Oh, it's been a common belief for a lot of asexuals on this site for a while now.

Zweite Alaje for example, who believed that humans should be artificially bread in tubes to keep sex from happening.


or the recently departed swaglord, for another
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Postby New haven america » Tue Mar 31, 2020 6:12 pm

United Muscovite Nations wrote:
Moscareinas wrote:
well, would you like people to stop fucking? everyone? just our libido to go full stop for the rest of our lives, and for our young ones to never know the pleasure of sex?

for that won't do, that won't do at all

I would personally prefer that people only have sex for the purpose of having children and not possess a libido or sexual desire, but I recognize that that is not realistic.

And considering you're asexual, no one's going to listen to you or take that idea seriously.
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Postby United Muscovite Nations » Tue Mar 31, 2020 6:13 pm

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United Muscovite Nations wrote:If everyone had sex merely for pleasure, then this would result in many people having unsatisfying personal relationships as well as an undermining of social structures which ensure social stability (e.g. marriage).


I don't follow your logic. Pleasurable sex would result in unsatisfying relationships?

I don't just mean romantic relationships. People having sex just for pleasure would not be only within relationships, but also in casual situations, friendships, etc. The results would likely be distancing between friends as a result of sexual feelings undermining platonic ones and professional ones.
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Postby United Muscovite Nations » Tue Mar 31, 2020 6:14 pm

New haven america wrote:
United Muscovite Nations wrote:I would personally prefer that people only have sex for the purpose of having children and not possess a libido or sexual desire, but I recognize that that is not realistic.

And considering you're asexual, no one's going to listen to you or take that idea seriously.

Are you going to discuss or are you just here to further your one-sided feud with me?
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Postby Purple Rats » Tue Mar 31, 2020 6:14 pm

United Muscovite Nations wrote:I would personally prefer that people only have sex for the purpose of having children and not possess a libido or sexual desire, but I recognize that that is not realistic.


Probably some religious people think the same....and that's why religious people have so many kids. "no-no, I don't want to get laid, I just really want this kid"

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Postby Rojava Free State » Tue Mar 31, 2020 6:16 pm

New haven america wrote:
Purple Rats wrote:
I have never heard of Asexual who thinks that it's wrong to have sex before. Sure, they don't want to, don't feel anything about it, or some even feel disgusted, but telling that it's wrong? :?:

Oh, it's been a common belief for a lot of asexuals on this site for a while now.

Zweite Alaje for example, who believed that humans should be artificially bread in tubes to keep sex from happening.


I'm a liberterian so I dont want to ban people from living how they want, but I don't wanna have a kid made in a tube. Not even in vitro. I'm a big fan of the good old fashioned way. Call me archaic but I don't care.
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Postby Rojava Free State » Tue Mar 31, 2020 6:17 pm

United Muscovite Nations wrote:
Purple Rats wrote:
I don't follow your logic. Pleasurable sex would result in unsatisfying relationships?

I don't just mean romantic relationships. People having sex just for pleasure would not be only within relationships, but also in casual situations, friendships, etc. The results would likely be distancing between friends as a result of sexual feelings undermining platonic ones and professional ones.


I can tell you from experience that a man and a woman can have sex and still be friends. It's really not a problem my guy.
Rojava Free State wrote:Listen yall. I'm only gonna say it once but I want you to remember it. This ain't a world fit for good men. It seems like you gotta be monstrous just to make it. Gotta have a little bit of darkness within you just to survive. You gotta stoop low everyday it seems like. Stoop all the way down to the devil in these times. And then one day you look in the mirror and you realize that you ain't you anymore. You're just another monster, and thanks to your actions, someone else will eventually become as warped and twisted as you. Never forget that the best of us are just the best of a bad lot. Being at the top of a pile of feces doesn't make you anything but shit like the rest. Never forget that.

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Postby Purple Rats » Tue Mar 31, 2020 6:17 pm

United Muscovite Nations wrote:
Purple Rats wrote:
I don't follow your logic. Pleasurable sex would result in unsatisfying relationships?

I don't just mean romantic relationships. People having sex just for pleasure would not be only within relationships, but also in casual situations, friendships, etc. The results would likely be distancing between friends as a result of sexual feelings undermining platonic ones and professional ones.


Trust me, people who have casual sex, does not distance themselves, and they also have self control.

Also some people can have sex with their friends too, and friendship is not ruined.

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Postby New haven america » Tue Mar 31, 2020 6:17 pm

United Muscovite Nations wrote:
New haven america wrote:And considering you're asexual, no one's going to listen to you or take that idea seriously.

Are you going to discuss or are you just here to further your one-sided feud with me?

I'm simply pointing out how being asexual and arguing towards people who aren't about how terrible sex is one of the silliest things you could possible do.

This is like Sai claiming that race-mixing is wrong. He's a self admitted racist so no one's gonna listen to him when he makes those claims because he doesn't have any accreditation in this subject no one's going to actually listen to your claims.
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Postby United Muscovite Nations » Tue Mar 31, 2020 6:19 pm

New haven america wrote:
United Muscovite Nations wrote:Are you going to discuss or are you just here to further your one-sided feud with me?

I'm simply pointing out how being asexual and arguing towards people who aren't about how terrible sex is one of the silliest things you could possible do.

This is like Sai claiming that race-mixing is wrong. He's a self admitted racist so no one's gonna listen to him when he makes those claims because he doesn't have any accreditation in this subject no one's going to actually listen to your claims.

Wouldn't the reverse be true? Arguing to an asexual that sex is great? Yet it is an ideological commitment for many to praise sex and those who have it (i.e. sex positivity).

I don't care that you're disagreeing with me, but you're doing so in a deliberately abrasive manner.
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Postby Purple Rats » Tue Mar 31, 2020 6:20 pm

I feel like I should start writing down who is who. (which views someone has)
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Postby United Muscovite Nations » Tue Mar 31, 2020 6:21 pm

Purple Rats wrote:I feel like I should start writing down who is who. (who has what views)

It won't work, for I am the nation of a thousand flags (tbh probably more at this point).
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Postby New haven america » Tue Mar 31, 2020 6:22 pm

United Muscovite Nations wrote:
New haven america wrote:I'm simply pointing out how being asexual and arguing towards people who aren't about how terrible sex is one of the silliest things you could possible do.

This is like Sai claiming that race-mixing is wrong. He's a self admitted racist so no one's gonna listen to him when he makes those claims because he doesn't have any accreditation in this subject no one's going to actually listen to your claims.

1. Wouldn't the reverse be true? 2. Arguing to an asexual that sex is great? 3. Yet it is an ideological commitment for many to praise sex and those who have it (i.e. sex positivity).

4. I don't care that you're disagreeing with me, but you're doing so in a deliberately abrasive manner.

1. Nope.
2. The difference here is that basically no one is doing that or are generally just saying "You do you man."
3. Mainly because certain religions have been sex repressive for the better part of 2000 years or so, and most people are starting to go "Huh, you know, repressing sexuality is really fucking stupid, isn't it?"
4. Sounds like you care. Boo hoo.
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Postby Rojava Free State » Tue Mar 31, 2020 6:23 pm

New haven america wrote:
United Muscovite Nations wrote:Are you going to discuss or are you just here to further your one-sided feud with me?

I'm simply pointing out how being asexual and arguing towards people who aren't about how terrible sex is one of the silliest things you could possible do.

This is like Sai claiming that race-mixing is wrong. He's a self admitted racist so no one's gonna listen to him when he makes those claims because he doesn't have any accreditation in this subject no one's going to actually listen to your claims.


I love when Sai says race mixing is wrong. It gives me an opportunity to tell one of my interracial sex stories just to start an argument.
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Postby United Muscovite Nations » Tue Mar 31, 2020 6:24 pm

New haven america wrote:
United Muscovite Nations wrote:1. Wouldn't the reverse be true? 2. Arguing to an asexual that sex is great? 3. Yet it is an ideological commitment for many to praise sex and those who have it (i.e. sex positivity).

4. I don't care that you're disagreeing with me, but you're doing so in a deliberately abrasive manner.

1. Nope.
2. The difference here is that basically no one is doing that or are generally just saying "You do you man."
3. Mainly because certain religions have been sex repressive for the better part of 2000 years or so, and most people are starting to go "Huh, you know, repressing sexuality is really fucking stupid, isn't it?"
4. Sounds like you care. Boo hoo.

1) Why not?
4) No, you're just being an ass and trying to make shit personal.
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Postby Purple Rats » Tue Mar 31, 2020 6:26 pm

United Muscovite Nations wrote:Wouldn't the reverse be true? Arguing to an asexual that sex is great?


No one can say to asexual that sex is great. (in a way like they should do it too) It just seems that your point is that some sexual actions are DISGUSTING and therefor WRONG.
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Postby Rojava Free State » Tue Mar 31, 2020 6:27 pm

Purple Rats wrote:I feel like I should start writing down who is who. (which views someone has)


You can start with me. I'm probably the most liberal person here regarding sex and honestly probably have a problem. Mentioning sex around me is like mentioning cocaine around Rick James. Also I panic bought a shitload of Old English 800.
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Rojava Free State wrote:Listen yall. I'm only gonna say it once but I want you to remember it. This ain't a world fit for good men. It seems like you gotta be monstrous just to make it. Gotta have a little bit of darkness within you just to survive. You gotta stoop low everyday it seems like. Stoop all the way down to the devil in these times. And then one day you look in the mirror and you realize that you ain't you anymore. You're just another monster, and thanks to your actions, someone else will eventually become as warped and twisted as you. Never forget that the best of us are just the best of a bad lot. Being at the top of a pile of feces doesn't make you anything but shit like the rest. Never forget that.

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Postby United Muscovite Nations » Tue Mar 31, 2020 6:27 pm

Purple Rats wrote:
United Muscovite Nations wrote:Wouldn't the reverse be true? Arguing to an asexual that sex is great?


No one can say to asexual that sex is great. It just seems that your point is that some sexual actions are DISGUSTING and therefor WRONG.

Yes, for the same reason that some (myself included) might say that furry porn is disgusting and therefore wrong, as an example.
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Postby New haven america » Tue Mar 31, 2020 6:28 pm

United Muscovite Nations wrote:
Purple Rats wrote:
No one can say to asexual that sex is great. It just seems that your point is that some sexual actions are DISGUSTING and therefor WRONG.

Yes, for the same reason that some (myself included) might say that furry porn is disgusting and therefore wrong, as an example.

I mean, it may be disgusting to you, but that doesn't make it wrong.

Different strokes for different folks. (In this case, literally)
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Postby Purple Rats » Tue Mar 31, 2020 6:32 pm

United Muscovite Nations wrote:
Purple Rats wrote:
No one can say to asexual that sex is great. It just seems that your point is that some sexual actions are DISGUSTING and therefor WRONG.

Yes, for the same reason that some (myself included) might say that furry porn is disgusting and therefore wrong, as an example.


Raspberries are fucking disgusting, and eating them is only making eater feeling good, therefor should I say to everyone that it's wrong to eat raspberries?

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Postby United Muscovite Nations » Tue Mar 31, 2020 6:33 pm

Purple Rats wrote:
United Muscovite Nations wrote:Yes, for the same reason that some (myself included) might say that furry porn is disgusting and therefore wrong, as an example.


Raspberries are fucking disgusting, and eating them is only making eater feeling good, therefor should I say to everyone that it's wrong to eat raspberries?

Raspberries are not another person, and therefore cannot be exploited as a tool. However, that raspberries may be disgusting is a good reason not to universally will the eating of raspberries.
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Postby Purple Rats » Tue Mar 31, 2020 6:36 pm

United Muscovite Nations wrote:Raspberries are not another person, and therefore cannot be exploited as a tool. However, that raspberries may be disgusting is a good reason not to universally will the eating of raspberries.

And if two people find something they do to eachother not be disgusting, and enjoy it, then how could it be wrong? Let's really say, with your theory, that they do both enjoy, and dont "exploit" others. As they don't just wanna get laid, they also want their sexpartner to feel good.
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Postby United Muscovite Nations » Tue Mar 31, 2020 6:40 pm

Purple Rats wrote:
United Muscovite Nations wrote:Raspberries are not another person, and therefore cannot be exploited as a tool. However, that raspberries may be disgusting is a good reason not to universally will the eating of raspberries.

And if two people find something they do to eachother not be disgusting, and enjoy it, then how could it be wrong?

I'm sure heroin addicts feel the same way about their dealer.
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