Abortion Law Reform Passes in New Zealand

[New haven america]

To be human is also to be an independent living being, separate from another person.

I reject that definition.

Sadly God didn't give us the ability of telepathy so yeah, you're gonna have to accept that definition until humans evolve a bit more.

[Celritannia]

New Zealand's timing is shit. Not only is it a really bad time to time to introduce this. Aside from the fact that most hospitals are already on elective surgeries, now, more than ever, we should be discouraging non-marital sex. Wait till Covid-19 is over

Not all sex creates babies.

[Necroghastia]

New Zealand's timing is shit. Not only is it a really bad time to time to introduce this. Aside from the fact that most hospitals are already on elective surgeries, now, more than ever, we should be discouraging non-marital sex. Wait till Covid-19 is over

Didn't you post this already? Also, I doubt the people who specialize in this sort of stuff will be using the same resources as the people treating COVID patients. And this affects married people just as much.

[The New California Republic]

New Zealand's timing is shit. Not only is it a really bad time to time to introduce this. Aside from the fact that most hospitals are already on elective surgeries, now, more than ever, we should be discouraging non-marital sex. Wait till Covid-19 is over

You made this same argument earlier. It was flimsy then and it is just as flimsy now.

[New haven america]

New Zealand's timing is shit. Not only is it a really bad time to time to introduce this. Aside from the fact that most hospitals are already on elective surgeries, now, more than ever, we should be discouraging non-marital sex. Wait till Covid-19 is over

Didn't you post this already? Also, I doubt the people who specialize in this sort of stuff will be using the same resources as the people treating COVID patients. And this affects married people just as much.

3rd time, to be specific.

[Neanderthaland]

New Zealand's timing is shit. Not only is it a really bad time to time to introduce this. Aside from the fact that most hospitals are already on elective surgeries, now, more than ever, we should be discouraging non-marital sex. Wait till Covid-19 is over

Not all sex creates babies.

Besides, what else are couples going to do? There's only so much Netflix...

[New haven america]

Not all sex creates babies.

Besides, what else are couples going to do? There's only so much Netflix...

They're going to sleep at least 6 inches apart from one another with a cuddle blocker in between them and only talk to each other in passive aggressive and indirect tone and phrasing.

[Neanderthaland]

Besides, what else are couples going to do? There's only so much Netflix...

They're going to sleep at least 6 inches apart from one another with a cuddle blocker in between them and only talk to each other in passive aggressive and indirect tone and phrasing.

Lewd.

[Sundiata]

Essentially, if a man and woman truly love each other, they marry and proceed to consummate that marriage. To perform the marital act before marriage is not to will the good of the other and lead one's partner astray from God, ergo, not true love.

Love and marriage are inseparable.

lol, no.

Marriage for love as normal is actually a rather new trend, throughout the vast majority of history marriage was solely an economic or political affair, including in Christian countries.

You're confusing romantic love with raw sexuality. Romantic love ebbs and flows with time, it's a skill whose mastery culminates in unconditional love, or God's love of humanity. For romantic love to progress past raw sexuality and into unconditional love, marriage is required.

[The New California Republic]

Not all sex creates babies.

Besides, what else are couples going to do? There's only so much Netflix...

The Coronavirus quarantine boredom dance.

[Cisairse]

Besides, what else are couples going to do? There's only so much Netflix...

They're going to sleep at least 6 inches apart from one another with a cuddle blocker in between them and only talk to each other in passive aggressive and indirect tone and phrasing.

My partner and I have already moved beyond that phase and now communicate only via subtweeting.

[New haven america]

They're going to sleep at least 6 inches apart from one another with a cuddle blocker in between them and only talk to each other in passive aggressive and indirect tone and phrasing.

Lewd.

Hey hey hey now.

At least they're not holding hands or calling each other by their first names with no honorifics attached.

[Neanderthaland]

Lewd.

Hey hey hey now.

At least they're not holding hands or calling each other by their first names with no honorifics attached.

Dude, keep it PG-13!

[Celritannia]

lol, no.

Marriage for love as normal is actually a rather new trend, throughout the vast majority of history marriage was solely an economic or political affair, including in Christian countries.

You're confusing romantic love with raw sexuality. Romantic love ebbs and flows with time, it's a skill whose mastery culminates in unconditional love, or God's love of humanity. For romantic love to progress past raw sexuality and into unconditional love, marriage is required.

Again, anyone can be in a romantic relationship for many years without getting married.
Marriage is not necessary.

[New haven america]

lol, no.

Marriage for love as normal is actually a rather new trend, throughout the vast majority of history marriage was solely an economic or political affair, including in Christian countries.

1. You're confusing romantic love with raw sexuality. 2. Romantic love ebbs and flows with time, it's a skill whose mastery culminates in unconditional love, or God's love of humanity. For romantic love to progress past raw sexuality and into unconditional love, marriage is required.

1. Nein, if anyone here's doing that it's you
2. And for the vast majority of human history romantic love in marriage didn't matter as marriage was not considered a matter of love, it was considered and political and economic tool.

[Neanderthaland]

lol, no.

Marriage for love as normal is actually a rather new trend, throughout the vast majority of history marriage was solely an economic or political affair, including in Christian countries.

You're confusing romantic love with raw sexuality. Romantic love ebbs and flows with time, it's a skill whose mastery culminates in unconditional love, or God's love of humanity. For romantic love to progress past raw sexuality and into unconditional love, marriage is required.

Pretty sure a couple can do that, even if no priest ever says magic words at them.

[Polding]

This isn’t confusing whatsoever lmao. ‘Human-ness’ is the fundamental essence of being a human. All humans possess it, or otherwise they would not be human. There is no difference between ‘human’ and ‘human being’, they’re the same thing. The only way to justify murdering another human is to say they aren’t human or that being human doesn’t matter.

Wrong. Something can be human, but not a human being.

And define "human-ness" please, so that it isn't just inserted in as an empty phrase.

Noun[edit]
humanness (countable and uncountable, plural humannesses)
The condition or quality of being human.

[New haven america]

Hey hey hey now.

At least they're not holding hands or calling each other by their first names with no honorifics attached.

Dude, keep it PG-13!

But, but, it makes my kokoro go doki doki and makes me so kimochi!

[The New California Republic]

lol, no.

Marriage for love as normal is actually a rather new trend, throughout the vast majority of history marriage was solely an economic or political affair, including in Christian countries.

You're confusing romantic love with raw sexuality. Romantic love ebbs and flows with time, it's a skill whose mastery culminates in unconditional love, or God's love of humanity. For romantic love to progress past raw sexuality and into unconditional love, marriage is required.

"Unconditional love" having marriage as a condition is not "unconditional".

And you have no evidence whatsoever that an unmarried couple can't love unconditionally, or that marriage is needed for said unconditional love to exist.

[The New California Republic]

Wrong. Something can be human, but not a human being.

And define "human-ness" please, so that it isn't just inserted in as an empty phrase.

Noun[edit]
humanness (countable and uncountable, plural humannesses)
The condition or quality of being human.

And again something can be human without being a human being. For example if a heart was being transplanted then we'd say that the heart was human, but it is not a human being.

[Sundiata]

You're confusing romantic love with raw sexuality. Romantic love ebbs and flows with time, it's a skill whose mastery culminates in unconditional love, or God's love of humanity. For romantic love to progress past raw sexuality and into unconditional love, marriage is required.

Pretty sure a couple can do that, even if no priest ever says magic words at them.

If a Catholic couple intends to fulfill the sacrament, says their vows to one another, and proceeds to consummate that marriage, then yes, they're married. The priest, the wedding, the wedding mass, it's just preferred. The presence of a priest is not technically needed.

[Polding]

Noun[edit]
humanness (countable and uncountable, plural humannesses)
The condition or quality of being human.

And again something can be human without being a human being. For example if a heart was being transplanted then we'd say that the heart was human, but it is not a human being.

It is ‘human’ only in relation to being a part of a human being; that is the source of its ‘human-ness’. This isn’t analogical to a fetus which is a human being.

[The New California Republic]

And again something can be human without being a human being. For example if a heart was being transplanted then we'd say that the heart was human, but it is not a human being.

It is ‘human’ only in relation to being a part of a human being; that is the source of its ‘human-ness’. This isn’t analogical to a fetus which is a human being.

It actually is, given that the usual period when the overwhelming majority of abortions are carried out, in the first few weeks, the foetus is only parts of what will constitute a human being too.

[Neanderthaland]

Pretty sure a couple can do that, even if no priest ever says magic words at them.

If a Catholic couple intends to fulfill the sacrament, says their vows to one another, and proceeds to consummate that marriage, then yes, they're married. The priest, the wedding, the wedding mass, it's just preferred. The presence of a priest is not technically needed.

Oh, so now they have to be Catholic too? Yet another condition for "unconditional" love.

[Polding]

It is ‘human’ only in relation to being a part of a human being; that is the source of its ‘human-ness’. This isn’t analogical to a fetus which is a human being.

It actually is, given that the usual period when the overwhelming majority of abortions are carried out, in the first few weeks, the foetus is only parts of what will constitute a human being too.

What does that eventually form into?