Abortion Law Reform Passes in New Zealand

[Nakena]

Well then those demons are fucking hawt

The best.

I'm really curious as to why men's punishment would last so much longer and be so much less physically invasive than that of women.

Because Eve tempted Adam and thus she and any woman after her get the brunt of the punishment.

Also Eve was his second. Before there was Lilith but she was banejected because she refused to lie under Adam (you can guess what this was about) and be obedient to him. So then Adam had to request a replacement, which was then Eve.

[The Holy Therns]

All of you "pro-life" guys are sick in the head. You only want a larger ignorant, starving population. Because that's what makes you conservatards profit. Why is this even a debate?

It's not like you could avoid sexual intercourse or let another couple adopt your child, is it? Sexual intercourse is for marriage anyway, when you usually want to have children. Outside of sacramental marriage, sex is usually a sin.

Sinning is hot.

[Albrenia]

It's not like you could avoid sexual intercourse or let another couple adopt your child, is it? Sexual intercourse is for marriage anyway, when you usually want to have children. Outside of sacramental marriage, sex is usually a sin.

Sinning is hot.

Hot as hell?

Ba-dum-tish.

[The Huskar Social Union]

Good stuff.

You quote the bible as if it is a historical account. This alone shows you know so little that anyone listening to your thoughts are suffering brain damage.

The Holy Bible is of course a historical account and you don't know what you're writing. If you aren't baptised I strongly advise you to let baptise yourself in the Catholic Church and if you already are, repent and receive the sacrament of Penance, please.

I was baptised, its nothing special, in fact i think its a load of bollocks.

[New haven america]

Well then those demons are fucking hawt

The best.

Because Eve tempted Adam and thus she and any woman after her get the brunt of the punishment.

Also Eve was his second. Before there was Lilith but she was banejected because she refused to lie under Adam (you can guess what this was about) and be obedient to him. So then Adam had to request a replacement, which was then Eve.

Basically in the Abrahamic Religions, women are responsible for everything wrong in the world that isn't a test of God.

[Costa Fierro]

Now we've thrown that away in a flurry of ideology, and just to add insult to injury they attempted (luckily unsuccessfully) to ban anyone from protesting it because New Zealand is rapidly becoming an authoritarian shithole.

Even if you're rabidly pro-choice, surely you should be able to see that banning protests (or confining them to certain areas) is a very, very dangerous thing to do.

I really don't give a crap about abortion but it's a shame people on the far right can now harass people moreso than they already are. If you think preventing that is dangerous, then you're not really protesting your "diminishing rights" (and as you live overseas, this does not apply to you), you're only angry that you cannot engage in questionable behaviour without being subject to the consequences of that behaviour.

Don't try and pull the wool over our eyes.

[Waldoven]

Could we move on from religion? I think I prefer the topic of abortion now rather than this

[Vivolkha]

You quote the bible as if it is a historical account. This alone shows you know so little that anyone listening to your thoughts are suffering brain damage.

The Holy Bible is of course a historical account and you don't know what you're writing. If you aren't baptised I strongly advise you to let baptise yourself in the Catholic Church and if you already are, repent and receive the sacrament of Penance, please.

NS is based on rational debate, not on trying to impose arbitrary irrational religious views on other people.

Condoms, the pill and coitus interruptus are a thing though.

The latter often doesn't work though. Yes, abortion should be a last resort but that is no reason to restrict it.

[Thermodolia]

The Holy Bible is of course a historical account and you don't know what you're writing. If you aren't baptised I strongly advise you to let baptise yourself in the Catholic Church and if you already are, repent and receive the sacrament of Penance, please.

NS is based on rational debate, not on trying to impose arbitrary irrational religious views on other people.

Condoms, the pill and coitus interruptus are a thing though.

The latter often doesn't work though. Yes, abortion should be a last resort but that is no reason to restrict it.

We should still be promoting the use of contraceptives and the morning after pill to reduce the possibility of needing an abortion. Abortion should always be a last resort option. To that end we should also increase support for single parents and children so that if a woman chooses not to abort she can continue to live without fear of how she will pay for everything

[The Huskar Social Union]

So does this mean I can marry the man of my dreams? Thanks catholics!!

No, because you're a man. You can marry the woman of your dreams. You do not feel that form of love towards another man, it might be demonic-induced feelings of lust. Find the love of your life (which is a woman). Pray to God and/or to your holy Guardian Angel to help you.

How to push people away from your religion in one easy step:

Act like this.

[Rojava Free State]

Unfortunately, New Zealand has a very evil government. I'm surprised that they didn't fully legalize unborn murder until today.

Lmfao if you think New Zealand's government is evil, you wouldn't last a day in America. Our government has murdered "collaterally damaged" thousands of people over the last two decades, overthrew countless governments worldwide and replaced them with puppet dictators, trained and armed terrorists in several nations and used violence and intimidation against protesters at home on multiple occasions. New Zealand can't even dream of competing with my government in the evil contest, and we aren't even near the top of the evil list. That is a tie between China and North Korea.

[The Huskar Social Union]

Unfortunately, New Zealand has a very evil government. I'm surprised that they didn't fully legalize unborn murder until today.

Lmfao if you think New Zealand's government is evil, you wouldn't last a day in America. Our government has murdered "collaterally damaged" thousands of people over the last two decades, overthrew countless governments worldwide and replaced them with puppet dictators, trained and armed terrorists in several nations and used violence and intimidation against protesters at home on multiple occasions. New Zealand can't even dream of competing with my government in the evil contest, and we aren't even near the top of the evil list. That is a tie between China and North Korea.

I would not be surprised if Terabitrhya thinks Trump is appointed by god and is the pinnacle of Christianity, the same way soo many ameican conservative christians believe

[Rojava Free State]

So does this mean I can marry the man of my dreams? Thanks catholics!!

No, because you're a man. You can marry the woman of your dreams. You do not feel that form of love towards another man, it might be demonic-induced feelings of lust. Find the love of your life (which is a woman). Pray to God and/or to your holy Guardian Angel to help you.

#1 who are you to say he doesn't feel love toward a man?
#2 prove that the forces of hell are real, and ancedotal stories of "Geezer Butler saw a dark shadow at the end of his bed" don't count.

[Thermodolia]

No, because you're a man. You can marry the woman of your dreams. You do not feel that form of love towards another man, it might be demonic-induced feelings of lust. Find the love of your life (which is a woman). Pray to God and/or to your holy Guardian Angel to help you.

How to push people away from your religion in one easy step:

Act like this.

Don’t worry I was already turned off after getting threatened with hellfire

[Rojava Free State]

Lmfao if you think New Zealand's government is evil, you wouldn't last a day in America. Our government has murdered "collaterally damaged" thousands of people over the last two decades, overthrew countless governments worldwide and replaced them with puppet dictators, trained and armed terrorists in several nations and used violence and intimidation against protesters at home on multiple occasions. New Zealand can't even dream of competing with my government in the evil contest, and we aren't even near the top of the evil list. That is a tie between China and North Korea.

I would not be surprised if Terabitrhya thinks Trump is appointed by god and is the pinnacle of Christianity, the same way soo many ameican conservative christians believe

Millions of evangelicals proved they were frauds and hypocrites when they voted for Trump.

[Rojava Free State]

How to push people away from your religion in one easy step:

Act like this.

Don’t worry I was already turned off after getting threatened with hellfire

I got turned off when I read the story of the exodus and realized God killed everyone except the actual guilty party just to punish someone for the slavery of the Israelites.

Innocent children died in that story because God couldn't just pick up the pharoah, throw him into the Mediterranean sea and say "alright Jews, you're free to go." It's amazing how people can read that story and not think the Abrahamic God is a sick fuck who murders kids.

[Vassenor]

Don’t worry I was already turned off after getting threatened with hellfire

I got turned off when I read the story of the exodus and realized God killed everyone except the actual guilty party just to punish someone for the slavery of the Israelites.

Innocent children died in that story because God couldn't just pick up the pharoah, throw him into the Mediterranean sea and say "alright Jews, you're free to go." It's amazing how people can read that story and not think the Abrahamic God is a sick fuck who murders kids.

Old Testament God is fucking psychotic.

[New haven america]

I got turned off when I read the story of the exodus and realized God killed everyone except the actual guilty party just to punish someone for the slavery of the Israelites.

Innocent children died in that story because God couldn't just pick up the pharoah, throw him into the Mediterranean sea and say "alright Jews, you're free to go." It's amazing how people can read that story and not think the Abrahamic God is a sick fuck who murders kids.

Old Testament God is fucking psychotic.

God in the Torah/OT is psychotic, NT God is going through therapy but refusing to take his meds, and Qurannic God is relapsing and going on a massive bender.

[Thermodolia]

Old Testament God is fucking psychotic.

God in the Torah/OT is psychotic, NT God is going through therapy but refusing to take his meds, and Qurannic God is relapsing and going on a massive bender.

So does that mean the god of the Book of Mormon is high?

[New haven america]

God in the Torah/OT is psychotic, NT God is going through therapy but refusing to take his meds, and Qurannic God is relapsing and going on a massive bender.

So does that mean the god of the Book of Mormon is high?

He may or may not have found where Abaddon was staching his End of Days Mushrooms that the locusts pick up.

[Rojava Free State]

Old Testament God is fucking psychotic.

God in the Torah/OT is psychotic, NT God is going through therapy but refusing to take his meds, and Qurannic God is relapsing and going on a massive bender.

Quranic God is 3 AM Eminem after he breaks out of a rehab facility, does some hard drugs, kills some people and begins speaking in some weird inexplicably accent.

[Sundiata]

A sad day for New Zealand. Jesus wept.

The liberalization of abortion is something I lament. However, the feasibility of an outright ban needs to lead to certain conditions. Most specifically, a society which values life.

[Vassenor]

A sad day for New Zealand.

Jesus wept.

I know. How sad it is that women finally have total control over their own bodies.

[Rojava Free State]

A sad day for New Zealand.

Jesus wept.

How can he weep? He hasn't been around in 2000 years.

[Ayro Va]

The abortion is very tricky for me, because if God is real & a faetus does have a soul and is alive by non-verifiable circumstances, then I don't want abortion to happen, but if God isn't real & faetus's aren't officially human and you wouldn't go to hell for aborting them, then it should be a woman's choice. But I'm really uncertain as to which of the two options I believe.