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by Kowani » Tue Mar 24, 2020 12:21 am
by New Bremerton » Tue Mar 24, 2020 3:10 am
The New California Republic wrote:Grenartia wrote:
I mean, we don't force people to donate blood or organs to save someone else, so why should someone who gets pregnant have to be forced to carry the fetus to term?
Yes, even if we assume the foetus for the sake of argument is a person, the question as to why the foetus gets a right that no other person has, i.e. to use another person's body against their will, for the foetus to override the bodily sovereignty of the woman and use her body in order for their own life to be saved, has not been answered in half a dozen of these abortion threads. Nobody, nobody, else has that right; so why the foetus gets it is unknown.
by Agarntrop » Tue Mar 24, 2020 3:56 am
New Bremerton wrote:The New California Republic wrote:Yes, even if we assume the foetus for the sake of argument is a person, the question as to why the foetus gets a right that no other person has, i.e. to use another person's body against their will, for the foetus to override the bodily sovereignty of the woman and use her body in order for their own life to be saved, has not been answered in half a dozen of these abortion threads. Nobody, nobody, else has that right; so why the foetus gets it is unknown.
If a fetus even has such a right, we might as well legalize rape, because unwanted pregnancy is the equivalent of being raped and tortured slowly for nine months with an extremely agonizing and traumatic climax at the end. Imagine inflicting this horrific shit on an 11-year-old girl who was raped by her uncle or stepfather. We're talking actual, functional, biological differences warranting special consideration by the government and not some vague, discriminatory affirmative action nonsense such as enforcing a 50% gender quota within the membership of a left-leaning political party that benefits only one gender because wHiTe mAn bAd.
Abortion should be free, safe, legal, accessible and confidential for all women and girls (and trans men and boys with uteri) with no risk of judgment or ridicule. It's interesting that it's mostly Christians and Catholics who have a problem with this. Even Muslims tend to be more relaxed when it comes to abortion.
by Australian rePublic » Tue Mar 24, 2020 4:50 am
New Bremerton wrote:The New California Republic wrote:Yes, even if we assume the foetus for the sake of argument is a person, the question as to why the foetus gets a right that no other person has, i.e. to use another person's body against their will, for the foetus to override the bodily sovereignty of the woman and use her body in order for their own life to be saved, has not been answered in half a dozen of these abortion threads. Nobody, nobody, else has that right; so why the foetus gets it is unknown.
If a fetus even has such a right, we might as well legalize rape, because unwanted pregnancy is the equivalent of being raped and tortured slowly for nine months with an extremely agonizing and traumatic climax at the end. Imagine inflicting this horrific shit on an 11-year-old girl who was raped by her uncle or stepfather. We're talking actual, functional, biological differences warranting special consideration by the government and not some vague, discriminatory affirmative action nonsense such as enforcing a 50% gender quota within the membership of a left-leaning political party that benefits only one gender because wHiTe mAn bAd.
Abortion should be free, safe, legal, accessible and confidential for all women and girls (and trans men and boys with uteri) with no risk of judgment or ridicule. It's interesting that it's mostly Christians and Catholics who have a problem with this. Even Muslims tend to be more relaxed when it comes to abortion.
by The New California Republic » Tue Mar 24, 2020 4:55 am
Australian rePublic wrote:Abortion due to rape is due to abortion to irresponsibility
by Vassenor » Tue Mar 24, 2020 5:02 am
Australian rePublic wrote:New Bremerton wrote:
If a fetus even has such a right, we might as well legalize rape, because unwanted pregnancy is the equivalent of being raped and tortured slowly for nine months with an extremely agonizing and traumatic climax at the end. Imagine inflicting this horrific shit on an 11-year-old girl who was raped by her uncle or stepfather. We're talking actual, functional, biological differences warranting special consideration by the government and not some vague, discriminatory affirmative action nonsense such as enforcing a 50% gender quota within the membership of a left-leaning political party that benefits only one gender because wHiTe mAn bAd.
Abortion should be free, safe, legal, accessible and confidential for all women and girls (and trans men and boys with uteri) with no risk of judgment or ridicule. It's interesting that it's mostly Christians and Catholics who have a problem with this. Even Muslims tend to be more relaxed when it comes to abortion.
Abortion due to rape is due to abortion to irresponsibility
by Australian rePublic » Tue Mar 24, 2020 5:04 am
by The New California Republic » Tue Mar 24, 2020 5:04 am
by Australian rePublic » Tue Mar 24, 2020 5:07 am
by The New California Republic » Tue Mar 24, 2020 5:07 am
Australian rePublic wrote:Australian rePublic wrote:Abortion due to rape is due to abortion to irresponsibilityThe New California Republic wrote:...what...?
What do you mean, what? If a woman was raped it's very different to having copious amounts of sex and failing to use contraception. You're killing an innocent baby either, but at least if the sex wasn't your fault, then it's the lesser of two evils if you want to terminate it. If you have sex irresponsibly (lack of contraception, having sex whilst ovulating, etc.) Then that's irresponsible, and your poor baby shouldn't have to die because of your irresponsibility. Men aren't off the hook either. I'm sure that there are ways that men can avoid impregnating women. I don't know about the ins and outs of sex, as I am a virgin, but I'm sure there are ways that men can avoid it. One thing, for example, would be spilling your sperm. Of coarse, the easiest way to avoid unwanted pregnancy is abstance, but since that's not gonna happen, at least be responsible. And before you criticise me of misogyny, keep in mind, this applies to both men and women. I am a man, and I am a 24 year old virgin.
by Australian rePublic » Tue Mar 24, 2020 5:09 am
The New California Republic wrote:Australian rePublic wrote:
What do you mean, what? If a woman was raped it's very different to having copious amounts of sex and failing to use contraception. You're killing an innocent baby either, but at least if the sex wasn't your fault, then it's the lesser of two evils if you want to terminate it. If you have sex irresponsibly (lack of contraception, having sex whilst ovulating, etc.) Then that's irresponsible, and your poor baby shouldn't have to die because of your irresponsibility. Men aren't off the hook either. I'm sure that there are ways that men can avoid impregnating women. I don't know about the ins and outs of sex, as I am a virgin, but I'm sure there are ways that men can avoid it. One thing, for example, would be spilling your sperm. Of coarse, the easiest way to avoid unwanted pregnancy is abstance, but since that's not gonna happen, at least be responsible. And before you criticise me of misogyny, keep in mind, this applies to both men and women. I am a man, and I am a 24 year old virgin.
That was not at all clear from what you posted. However, the "clarification" itself is still a fucking mess.
by Vassenor » Tue Mar 24, 2020 5:11 am
by Vassenor » Tue Mar 24, 2020 5:33 am
Nakena wrote:Vassenor wrote:
So we're back to demonising women for exercising control over their own bodies?
Yes.
However you defended this religion and belief system.
by The Caleshan Valkyrie » Tue Mar 24, 2020 5:41 am
by Nobel Hobos 2 » Tue Mar 24, 2020 5:42 am
Nakena wrote:Vassenor wrote:
So we're back to demonising women for exercising control over their own bodies?
Yes.
However you defended this religion and belief system.
by Nakena » Tue Mar 24, 2020 5:42 am
Vassenor wrote:
Sorry, was there an actual point you were trying to make here? Or are you just dredging up posts from entirely unrelated threads just to hurl your own faeces around?
by Nobel Hobos 2 » Tue Mar 24, 2020 5:45 am
by Minimark » Tue Mar 24, 2020 5:46 am
by Nobel Hobos 2 » Tue Mar 24, 2020 5:48 am
Minimark wrote:Australian rePublic wrote:Abortion after rape= acceptable
Abortion when not rape= murder
It is murder because yes the fetus is in the body, but it is a seperate body. Since it has most of the essentials to be a human being, and since all human beings have rights, it should be illegal to kill that human being.
by Vassenor » Tue Mar 24, 2020 5:48 am
Minimark wrote:Australian rePublic wrote:Abortion after rape= acceptable
Abortion when not rape= murder
It is murder because yes the fetus is in the body, but it is a seperate body. Since it has most of the essentials to be a human being, and since all human beings have rights, it should be illegal to kill that human being.
by The New California Republic » Tue Mar 24, 2020 5:48 am
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