Abortion Law Reform Passes in New Zealand

[Samudera Darussalam]

I mean, if we are going to be fair, men shouldn't be exempted from slut-shaming in those societies too.

And yet they are, more often than not. So they shouldn't be, but they are.

Also, slut shaming is stupid.

*Sighs*

Indeed. The fact that people need to don the cloaks of "holier than thou" sometimes can be annoying.

[Grenartia]

Good on NZ, though I'm shocked it wasn't already legal.

[Sundiata]

That's not only terrible, but it's also not manly to treat women that way.

And yet we find that to be super fucking common behavior in more conservative/religious societies.

Hm...

Again, no man worth respecting behaves that way or treats women that way. Women are blessed, graceful, and worthy of the utmost reverence.

If anything, secular society degrades women through pornography, hook-up culture, and premarital sex.

[ArenaC]

This is good news for a pro choice like myself.

[New haven america]

And yet we find that to be super fucking common behavior in more conservative/religious societies.

Hm...

1. Again, no man worth respecting behaves that way or treats women that way. 2. Women are blessed, graceful, and worthy of the utmost reverence.

3. If anything, secular society degrades women.

1. Then explain why conservative and religious societies partake do so?
2. This is known as "Placing on a pedestal" and is a form of objectification that helps no one.
3. This is probably the stupidest claim I've seen you make.

[Sundiata]

And yet we find that to be super fucking common behavior in more conservative/religious societies.

Hm...

I mean, if we are going to be fair, men shouldn't be exempted from slut-shaming in those societies too.

True, promiscuity is always shameful.

[New haven america]

I mean, if we are going to be fair, men shouldn't be exempted from slut-shaming in those societies too.

True, promiscuity is always shameful.

And yet you've provided no other argument or source for this claim other than because a book written 2000 years ago says so.

If it was actually harmful you'd be able to find actual article or sources outside of religion that proves that it is.

[Cisairse]

Good for NZ. I cannot fathom how anyone in this world can tolerate abortions being banned in their locale in the year of our lord 2020.

[Sundiata]

2. This is known as "Placing on a pedestal" and is a form of objectification that helps no one.

With all due respect, I don't care. Our daughters, mothers, and sisters deserve nothing but the kindest treatment.

[New haven america]

2. This is known as "Placing on a pedestal" and is a form of objectification that helps no one.

With all due respect, I don't care. Our daughters, mothers, and sisters deserve nothing but the kindest treatment.

What if they're assholes?

Also, it's interesting that you say that while also being ok with slut shaming and taking away their reproductive rights. Also, you ignored my questions.

[The New California Republic]

Our daughters, mothers, and sisters deserve nothing but the kindest treatment.

I mean, if we are going to be fair, men shouldn't be exempted from slut-shaming in those societies too.

True, promiscuity is always shameful.

Do you class slut shaming as "kind treatment"?

[New haven america]

Our daughters, mothers, and sisters deserve nothing but the kindest treatment.

True, promiscuity is always shameful.

Do you class slut shaming as "kind treatment"?

Obviously, because women don't know what's best for them.

[The New California Republic]

Do you class slut shaming as "kind treatment"?

Obviously, because women don't know what's best for them.

Perhaps this is that whole "cruel to be kind" shite?

[Rojava Free State]

I mean, if we are going to be fair, men shouldn't be exempted from slut-shaming in those societies too.

And yet they are, more often than not. So they shouldn't be, but they are.

Also, slut shaming is stupid.

Which is why it seemed like every Chaldean girl in my area had a curfew of 3 PM while her brothers could basically go out and act sleazier than Bill Clinton and it was a-ok.

This is America. We had a feminist movement here, so I think it isn't too much to ask immigrants to get on board with the women's rights stuff or stay out of this country.

[Rojava Free State]

I mean, if we are going to be fair, men shouldn't be exempted from slut-shaming in those societies too.

True, promiscuity is always shameful.

No it isn't. Its normal behavior, and isn't your business.

[Sundiata]

Our daughters, mothers, and sisters deserve nothing but the kindest treatment.

True, promiscuity is always shameful.

Do you class slut shaming as "kind treatment"?

Promiscuous behavior should not be tolerated, that said, the people who engage in promiscuous behavior should not be judged by us. They're still made in the image of God who loves them more than I probably ever could.

[The New California Republic]

Do you class slut shaming as "kind treatment"?

Promiscuous behavior should not be tolerated, that said, the people who engage in promiscuous behavior should not be judged.

Except you just agreed with slut shaming. Make your mind up.

[Sundiata]

Promiscuous behavior should not be tolerated, that said, the people who engage in promiscuous behavior should not be judged.

Except you just agreed with slut shaming. Make your mind up.

Hate the sin, not the sinner.

[The New California Republic]

Except you just agreed with slut shaming. Make your mind up.

Hate the sin, not the sinner.

You just agreed with slut shaming, that statement is not a response to that.

[Sundiata]

Hate the sin, not the sinner.

You just agreed with slut shaming, that statement is not a response to that.

Yeah, promiscuous behavior is shameful whether or not it's done by men or women. That doesn't mean that these men or women deserve to be treated poorly.

[The New California Republic]

You just agreed with slut shaming, that statement is not a response to that.

Yeah, promiscuous behavior is shameful whether or not it's done by men or women.

This is still not a response to the contradiction that you think that "Our daughters, mothers, and sisters deserve nothing but the kindest treatment", and yet in the next breath you agreed with slut shaming.

[Polding]

Have you considered that I consider women that abort their children to have forfeited their lives, incurring just execution as murderers (whether that be by their own hand or an authorities)? Therefore, that 50,000 figure is meaningless to me.

That's monstrous, wanting to murder women.

Actually, God invents everything natural. Your thoughts and feelings are entirely yours, despite Him giving you the ability to think and feel in the first place.



Except God actually exists. You wouldn't be here if He didn't. Nothing would.

Even as a Christian I concede that there is no empirical evidence that God exists.
Faith is not proof.

Curious that you support murdering children and say this. Sorry that your outrage, then, falls on my deaf ears.

I hesitate to call you Christian.

[The New California Republic]

That's monstrous, wanting to murder women.

Curious that you support murdering children. Sorry that your outrage then falls on my deaf ears.

Since a child is defined as a human being between the stages of birth and puberty, she doesn't.

[Sundiata]

Yeah, promiscuous behavior is shameful whether or not it's done by men or women.

This is still not a response to the contradiction that you think that "Our daughters, mothers, and sisters deserve nothing but the kindest treatment", and yet in the next breath you agreed with slut shaming.

I described the promiscuous behavior as shameful, not the people.

Is that clear?

[The New California Republic]

This is still not a response to the contradiction that you think that "Our daughters, mothers, and sisters deserve nothing but the kindest treatment", and yet in the next breath you agreed with slut shaming.

I described the promiscuous behavior as shameful, not the people.

Is that clear?

Wrong. You agreed with the slut shaming statement by saying "true", so stop trying to gaslight me.