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by Gunyria » Thu Mar 19, 2020 10:31 am
WikiPlay wrote:All stuff that is good for the economy is banned in Europe : steroids are banned, dextro-amphetamine is banned meanwhile the life quality and the economic benefits of smoking tabacco, and the alcohol are not beneficial to our economy and wellbeing.
That's something that I don't understand. Maybe someone is smarter then me but...
by Gunyria » Thu Mar 19, 2020 10:33 am
Sundiata wrote:Recreational drug use should not be legal, or at least not permitted by society.
by Gunyria » Thu Mar 19, 2020 10:45 am
Nakena wrote:Gunyria wrote:Not sure if it should be legal, but decriminalization can really help. I agree with you that drugs should not be viewed as something completely normal by our society.
Alcohol and Sugar are perfectly normal however. Despite them being argueably more dangerous to health than marijuana. Specifically the later.
by Sundiata » Thu Mar 19, 2020 10:48 am
by Gunyria » Thu Mar 19, 2020 10:56 am
Sundiata wrote:Gunyria wrote:Not sure if it should be legal, but decriminalization can really help. I agree with you that drugs should not be viewed as something completely normal by our society.
While we should not tolerate recreational drug use, more emphasis should be put on rehabilitating drug users.
by Major-Tom » Thu Mar 19, 2020 11:06 am
by Nakena » Thu Mar 19, 2020 11:07 am
Gunyria wrote:Nakena wrote:
Alcohol and Sugar are perfectly normal however. Despite them being argueably more dangerous to health than marijuana. Specifically the later.
USA tried to ban alcohol and we all know how that went. Someone already said it here, but alcohol is so deep rooted into our society and culture that people can't give it up
Conserning the sugar, we all know it is unhealthy but we can decide to stop consuming it (at least most of the people). Sugar does not stimulate your brain in such way that you need more and more to get satisfied each time. On the other hand, you can't consume the same amount of crystal meth forever and feel satisfied. After some time, you need bigger dose
by Gunyria » Thu Mar 19, 2020 11:18 am
Major-Tom wrote:In all seriousness, I'd err towards decriminalizing hard drugs, that way those caught shooting up heroin or smoking meth still oughta be mandated to take part in some form of rehabilitation, since we don't want chronic hard drug users all over the place. It's the Portuguese method, you don't slap hard drug users with any fines or criminal penalties, nothing for the record, but you have to/are at least strongly encouraged to seek rehabilitation if caught.
As for softer drugs, such as marijuana, shrooms and other psychedelics, just legalize it and strictly regulate it.
by Nakena » Thu Mar 19, 2020 11:20 am
Gunyria wrote:Major-Tom wrote:In all seriousness, I'd err towards decriminalizing hard drugs, that way those caught shooting up heroin or smoking meth still oughta be mandated to take part in some form of rehabilitation, since we don't want chronic hard drug users all over the place. It's the Portuguese method, you don't slap hard drug users with any fines or criminal penalties, nothing for the record, but you have to/are at least strongly encouraged to seek rehabilitation if caught.
As for softer drugs, such as marijuana, shrooms and other psychedelics, just legalize it and strictly regulate it.
I also believe it should be regulated in public. I mean enjoy that you are free to get high at home or in some bar but why should I inhale someone's marijuana smoke while I am waiting at the bus stop for example?
by Gunyria » Thu Mar 19, 2020 11:22 am
Nakena wrote:Gunyria wrote:I also believe it should be regulated in public. I mean enjoy that you are free to get high at home or in some bar but why should I inhale someone's marijuana smoke while I am waiting at the bus stop for example?
I do agree with you on that. Generally public alcohol consumption should also be limited. Its just anti-social behaviour and disorderly conduct.
by Nakena » Thu Mar 19, 2020 11:23 am
Gunyria wrote:Nakena wrote:
I do agree with you on that. Generally public alcohol consumption should also be limited. Its just anti-social behaviour and disorderly conduct.
Yep. The last thing you want to see n hear when you are outside with your kids is some drunk dude shouthing how nice your boobs are
by Major-Tom » Thu Mar 19, 2020 11:24 am
Nakena wrote:Gunyria wrote:I also believe it should be regulated in public. I mean enjoy that you are free to get high at home or in some bar but why should I inhale someone's marijuana smoke while I am waiting at the bus stop for example?
I do agree with you on that. Generally public alcohol consumption should also be limited. Its just anti-social behaviour and disorderly conduct.
by Nakena » Thu Mar 19, 2020 11:25 am
Major-Tom wrote:Nakena wrote:
I do agree with you on that. Generally public alcohol consumption should also be limited. Its just anti-social behaviour and disorderly conduct.
I agree with both of y'all, unless it's a designated beach or sort of "party row" sort of district a select few cities have, I think cities and municipalities by and large should try to curb public alcohol or marijuana consumption.
by Gunyria » Thu Mar 19, 2020 11:27 am
Nakena wrote:Gunyria wrote:Yep. The last thing you want to see n hear when you are outside with your kids is some drunk dude shouthing how nice your boobs are
The proper punishment for such behaviour should be a little public whipping. Nothing extreme or hurtful. More shaming.
Or short of that a nice fine.
by Nakena » Thu Mar 19, 2020 11:29 am
Gunyria wrote:Nakena wrote:
The proper punishment for such behaviour should be a little public whipping. Nothing extreme or hurtful. More shaming.
Or short of that a nice fine.
Well, disagree with that. Punishment shall be fine in that case. I am against public shaming and here is the reason why. Imagine you lost your beloved person. You are desperate and depressed. You go to bar and you drink a bit too much to feel better. Than you don't even know what you are doing and the last thing you want is to be publicly shamed... combination of depression, shame and public rejection is the best recipe for suicide
by LimaUniformNovemberAlpha » Thu Mar 19, 2020 12:24 pm
Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:1. The PRC is not a Communist State, as it has shown absolutely zero interest in achieving Communism.
2. The CCP is not a Communist Party, as it has shown absolutely zero interest in achieving Communism.
3. Xi Jinping and his cronies are not Communists, as they have shown absolutely zero interest in achieving Communism.
How do we know this? Because the first step toward Communism is Socialism, and none of the aforementioned are even remotely Socialist in any way, shape, or form.
by LimaUniformNovemberAlpha » Thu Mar 19, 2020 12:25 pm
The Emerald Legion wrote:LimaUniformNovemberAlpha wrote:Execution should be reserved for acts that are either coercive (eg. murder, maybe rape) or severely deceptive . (Eg. Madoff-level ponzi schemes.) Drug dealing is a consensual transaction. If the warnings about the risk of addiction have failed to deter people from doing harder drugs, take it up with those who cried wolf about weed. They're the reason people aren't convinced.
We don't excuse murderers because their victims were too stupid to realize getting killed kills you. Drug dealing is murder.
Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:1. The PRC is not a Communist State, as it has shown absolutely zero interest in achieving Communism.
2. The CCP is not a Communist Party, as it has shown absolutely zero interest in achieving Communism.
3. Xi Jinping and his cronies are not Communists, as they have shown absolutely zero interest in achieving Communism.
How do we know this? Because the first step toward Communism is Socialism, and none of the aforementioned are even remotely Socialist in any way, shape, or form.
by LimaUniformNovemberAlpha » Thu Mar 19, 2020 12:27 pm
Gunyria wrote:Nakena wrote:
Alcohol and Sugar are perfectly normal however. Despite them being argueably more dangerous to health than marijuana. Specifically the later.
USA tried to ban alcohol and we all know how that went. Someone already said it here, but alcohol is so deep rooted into our society and culture that people can't give it up
Conserning the sugar, we all know it is unhealthy but we can decide to stop consuming it (at least most of the people). Sugar does not stimulate your brain in such way that you need more and more to get satisfied each time. On the other hand, you can't consume the same amount of crystal meth forever and feel satisfied. After some time, you need bigger dose
Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:1. The PRC is not a Communist State, as it has shown absolutely zero interest in achieving Communism.
2. The CCP is not a Communist Party, as it has shown absolutely zero interest in achieving Communism.
3. Xi Jinping and his cronies are not Communists, as they have shown absolutely zero interest in achieving Communism.
How do we know this? Because the first step toward Communism is Socialism, and none of the aforementioned are even remotely Socialist in any way, shape, or form.
by Gunyria » Thu Mar 19, 2020 12:30 pm
LimaUniformNovemberAlpha wrote:Gunyria wrote:USA tried to ban alcohol and we all know how that went. Someone already said it here, but alcohol is so deep rooted into our society and culture that people can't give it up
Conserning the sugar, we all know it is unhealthy but we can decide to stop consuming it (at least most of the people). Sugar does not stimulate your brain in such way that you need more and more to get satisfied each time. On the other hand, you can't consume the same amount of crystal meth forever and feel satisfied. After some time, you need bigger dose
You were saying?
by LimaUniformNovemberAlpha » Thu Mar 19, 2020 12:31 pm
Gunyria wrote:LimaUniformNovemberAlpha wrote:You were saying?
Oh boi it might be. I know I can live without sugar. And if it is addictive, it can't get you high. After you eat 10 spoons o fsugar you still know what you are doing. Try to smoke 10 pots and tell me how did it go
Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:1. The PRC is not a Communist State, as it has shown absolutely zero interest in achieving Communism.
2. The CCP is not a Communist Party, as it has shown absolutely zero interest in achieving Communism.
3. Xi Jinping and his cronies are not Communists, as they have shown absolutely zero interest in achieving Communism.
How do we know this? Because the first step toward Communism is Socialism, and none of the aforementioned are even remotely Socialist in any way, shape, or form.
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