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Infected Mushroom
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Corrupt Dictatorship

Postby Infected Mushroom » Tue Jun 16, 2020 9:18 pm

Rojava Free State wrote:Drunk again. Will post videos of the chaos tomorrow morning.


Oh no!

Will you have hangover? I hope not

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New Visayan Islands
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Capitalist Paradise

Postby New Visayan Islands » Tue Jun 16, 2020 9:18 pm

Rojava Free State wrote:Drunk again. Will post videos of the chaos tomorrow morning.

Watch out for that hangover.
Let "¡Viva la Libertad!" be a cry of Eternal Defiance to the Jackboot.
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The Free Joy State
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Ex-Nation

Postby The Free Joy State » Tue Jun 16, 2020 9:22 pm

Farnhamian Guards wrote:
The Free Joy State wrote:You wouldn't, Farnhamian Guard!

… Please don't drag me away.

*puts a few notes down in Free Joy States file*

*puts a few notes in the Farnhamian Guards' wallet*

Just an entirely voluntary donation for the temple; if you'd like to record my piety in your notes, go ahead. :p
Last edited by The Free Joy State on Tue Jun 16, 2020 9:24 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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Farnhamia
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Left-Leaning College State

Postby Farnhamia » Tue Jun 16, 2020 9:27 pm

The Free Joy State wrote:
Farnhamian Guards wrote:*puts a few notes down in Free Joy States file*

*puts a few notes in the Farnhamian Guards' wallet*

Just an entirely voluntary donation for the temple; if you'd like to record my piety in your notes, go ahead. :p

*looks the other way*
Make Earth Great Again: Stop Continental Drift!
And Jesus was a sailor when he walked upon the water ...
"Make yourself at home, Frank. Hit somebody." RIP Don Rickles
My country, right or wrong; if right, to be kept right; and if wrong, to be set right. ~ Carl Schurz
<Sigh> NSG...where even the atheists are Augustinians. ~ The Archregimancy
Now the foot is on the other hand ~ Kannap
RIP Dyakovo ... Ashmoria (Freedom ... or cake)
This is the eighth line. If your signature is longer, it's too long.

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Farnhamian Guards
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Ex-Nation

Postby Farnhamian Guards » Tue Jun 16, 2020 9:31 pm

The Free Joy State wrote:
Farnhamian Guards wrote:*puts a few notes down in Free Joy States file*

*puts a few notes in the Farnhamian Guards' wallet*

Just an entirely voluntary donation for the temple; if you'd like to record my piety in your notes, go ahead. :p

*drags Free Joy State away*
Once more unto the breach, dear friends, once more

Unconquered I Serve

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The Free Joy State
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Ex-Nation

Postby The Free Joy State » Tue Jun 16, 2020 9:35 pm

Farnhamian Guards wrote:
The Free Joy State wrote:*puts a few notes in the Farnhamian Guards' wallet*

Just an entirely voluntary donation for the temple; if you'd like to record my piety in your notes, go ahead. :p

*drags Free Joy State away*

Nooooooooooo!

*desperately offers rum from inside my voluminous cloak*

Protecting the Mayor must be thirsty work, hmmm...
"If there's a book that you want to read, but it hasn't been written yet, then you must write it." - Toni Morrison

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Farnhamia
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Founded: Jun 20, 2006
Left-Leaning College State

Postby Farnhamia » Tue Jun 16, 2020 9:41 pm

The Free Joy State wrote:
Farnhamian Guards wrote:*drags Free Joy State away*

Nooooooooooo!

*desperately offers rum from inside my voluminous cloak*

Protecting the Mayor must be thirsty work, hmmm...

Wait! *takes the cask* Rum, is it? Well, that's a bit better.
Make Earth Great Again: Stop Continental Drift!
And Jesus was a sailor when he walked upon the water ...
"Make yourself at home, Frank. Hit somebody." RIP Don Rickles
My country, right or wrong; if right, to be kept right; and if wrong, to be set right. ~ Carl Schurz
<Sigh> NSG...where even the atheists are Augustinians. ~ The Archregimancy
Now the foot is on the other hand ~ Kannap
RIP Dyakovo ... Ashmoria (Freedom ... or cake)
This is the eighth line. If your signature is longer, it's too long.

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Geneviev
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Founded: Mar 03, 2018
Democratic Socialists

Postby Geneviev » Tue Jun 16, 2020 9:41 pm

The Free Joy State wrote:
Geneviev wrote:Steven Hassan, who created the BITE model, isn't even particularly qualified and has lied about things pretty often. He's not a reliable source of information about cults and tries to expand the definition so that people are afraid of their "growing" influence and buy his books.

Who told you that, out of interest, about the mental health counsellor who escaped the Unification Church (recognised as a cult) and now specialises in destructive cults? Your Pastor?

If so, it's amazing how often the opponents of high-pressure religious groups get slurred, isn't it? I wonder why that happens... It couldn't be anything to do with the fact that sources of information that urge people to question if their behaviour is overly regulated, and their emotions are being controlled and if the world is distorted into black/white good/bad and inside/outside can be threatening to the leadership, can it?

Does your Church have anything to say about cult expert Rick Ross (which also brands the JWs a cult)?

By the way, Rick Ross' ten warning signs of a potentially dangerous group and leader are:
  • Absolute authoritarianism without meaningful accountability.
  • No tolerance for questions or critical inquiry.
  • No meaningful financial disclosure regarding budget, expenses such as an independently audited financial statement.
  • Unreasonable fear about the outside world, such as impending catastrophe, evil conspiracies and persecutions.
  • There is no legitimate reason to leave, former followers are always wrong in leaving, negative or even evil.
  • Former members often relate the same stories of abuse and reflect a similar pattern of grievances.
  • There are records, books, news articles, or television programs that document the abuses of the group/leader.
  • Followers feel they can never be "good enough".
  • The group/leader is always right.
  • The group/leader is the exclusive means of knowing "truth" or receiving validation, no other process of discovery is really acceptable or credible.

I find it fascinating that you think that my information came from my church. I also find it fascinating that people who criticize Hassan are considered cult apologists. A few of the actual sources of my information include this, this, or this.

Farnhamia wrote:*walks in wearing a jester's cap and carrying a rubber chicken* Hiya, folks ... *stops short after seeing the recent posts* Oh, sorry, I thought this was TET. *turns to go* Hey! Wait a minute!

Sorry Farn. Should it be a separate thread?
"Above all, keep loving one another earnestly, since love covers a multitude of sins." 1 Peter 4:8

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Farnhamia
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Founded: Jun 20, 2006
Left-Leaning College State

Postby Farnhamia » Tue Jun 16, 2020 9:43 pm

Geneviev wrote:
The Free Joy State wrote:Who told you that, out of interest, about the mental health counsellor who escaped the Unification Church (recognised as a cult) and now specialises in destructive cults? Your Pastor?

If so, it's amazing how often the opponents of high-pressure religious groups get slurred, isn't it? I wonder why that happens... It couldn't be anything to do with the fact that sources of information that urge people to question if their behaviour is overly regulated, and their emotions are being controlled and if the world is distorted into black/white good/bad and inside/outside can be threatening to the leadership, can it?

Does your Church have anything to say about cult expert Rick Ross (which also brands the JWs a cult)?

By the way, Rick Ross' ten warning signs of a potentially dangerous group and leader are:
  • Absolute authoritarianism without meaningful accountability.
  • No tolerance for questions or critical inquiry.
  • No meaningful financial disclosure regarding budget, expenses such as an independently audited financial statement.
  • Unreasonable fear about the outside world, such as impending catastrophe, evil conspiracies and persecutions.
  • There is no legitimate reason to leave, former followers are always wrong in leaving, negative or even evil.
  • Former members often relate the same stories of abuse and reflect a similar pattern of grievances.
  • There are records, books, news articles, or television programs that document the abuses of the group/leader.
  • Followers feel they can never be "good enough".
  • The group/leader is always right.
  • The group/leader is the exclusive means of knowing "truth" or receiving validation, no other process of discovery is really acceptable or credible.

I find it fascinating that you think that my information came from my church. I also find it fascinating that people who criticize Hassan are considered cult apologists. A few of the actual sources of my information include this, this, or this.

Farnhamia wrote:*walks in wearing a jester's cap and carrying a rubber chicken* Hiya, folks ... *stops short after seeing the recent posts* Oh, sorry, I thought this was TET. *turns to go* Hey! Wait a minute!

Sorry Farn. Should it be a separate thread?

Well, you could carry on here, it's just that it seems to have been all people were talking about. A separate thread would be the ideal solution, of course. "What Makes A Cult?" or some such title.
Make Earth Great Again: Stop Continental Drift!
And Jesus was a sailor when he walked upon the water ...
"Make yourself at home, Frank. Hit somebody." RIP Don Rickles
My country, right or wrong; if right, to be kept right; and if wrong, to be set right. ~ Carl Schurz
<Sigh> NSG...where even the atheists are Augustinians. ~ The Archregimancy
Now the foot is on the other hand ~ Kannap
RIP Dyakovo ... Ashmoria (Freedom ... or cake)
This is the eighth line. If your signature is longer, it's too long.

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Abserdia
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Founded: Aug 05, 2014
Scandinavian Liberal Paradise

Postby Abserdia » Tue Jun 16, 2020 9:44 pm

Farnhamia wrote:
The Free Joy State wrote:*puts a few notes in the Farnhamian Guards' wallet*

Just an entirely voluntary donation for the temple; if you'd like to record my piety in your notes, go ahead. :p

*looks the other way*

Farnhamian Guards wrote:
The Free Joy State wrote:*puts a few notes in the Farnhamian Guards' wallet*

Just an entirely voluntary donation for the temple; if you'd like to record my piety in your notes, go ahead. :p

*drags Free Joy State away*

The duality of the mayordom in clear view...
Black lives matter

Recommend me shoegaze and ambient music.

So long, Frank Lloyd Wright
I can't believe your song is gone so soon...
I barely learned the tune
So soon, so soon

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Geneviev
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Posts: 16432
Founded: Mar 03, 2018
Democratic Socialists

Postby Geneviev » Tue Jun 16, 2020 9:44 pm

Farnhamia wrote:
Geneviev wrote:I find it fascinating that you think that my information came from my church. I also find it fascinating that people who criticize Hassan are considered cult apologists. A few of the actual sources of my information include this, this, or this.


Sorry Farn. Should it be a separate thread?

Well, you could carry on here, it's just that it seems to have been all people were talking about. A separate thread would be the ideal solution, of course. "What Makes A Cult?" or some such title.

I'll work on it and let TET get back to silliness then.
"Above all, keep loving one another earnestly, since love covers a multitude of sins." 1 Peter 4:8

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South Odreria 2
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Founded: Aug 26, 2019
Ex-Nation

Postby South Odreria 2 » Tue Jun 16, 2020 9:47 pm

I spent like an hour working on a stupid reddit meme that I posted at like the least optimal time to get upvoted
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Farnhamian Guards
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Founded: Apr 11, 2019
Ex-Nation

Postby Farnhamian Guards » Tue Jun 16, 2020 9:47 pm

Farnhamia wrote:
The Free Joy State wrote:Nooooooooooo!

*desperately offers rum from inside my voluminous cloak*

Protecting the Mayor must be thirsty work, hmmm...

Wait! *takes the cask* Rum, is it? Well, that's a bit better.

*hands the remainder of Free Joy's Rum over to Mayor Farn*

Have a good night Ma'am

*drags Free Joy State away*
Once more unto the breach, dear friends, once more

Unconquered I Serve

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Infected Mushroom
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Posts: 38837
Founded: Apr 15, 2014
Corrupt Dictatorship

Postby Infected Mushroom » Tue Jun 16, 2020 9:48 pm

South Odreria 2 wrote:I spent like an hour working on a stupid reddit meme that I posted at like the least optimal time to get upvoted


How many upvotes?

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Farnhamia
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Founded: Jun 20, 2006
Left-Leaning College State

Postby Farnhamia » Tue Jun 16, 2020 9:49 pm

South Odreria 2 wrote:I spent like an hour working on a stupid reddit meme that I posted at like the least optimal time to get upvoted

And you could have been here with us. Joy brought rum.*laughs* And rum brings joy.
Make Earth Great Again: Stop Continental Drift!
And Jesus was a sailor when he walked upon the water ...
"Make yourself at home, Frank. Hit somebody." RIP Don Rickles
My country, right or wrong; if right, to be kept right; and if wrong, to be set right. ~ Carl Schurz
<Sigh> NSG...where even the atheists are Augustinians. ~ The Archregimancy
Now the foot is on the other hand ~ Kannap
RIP Dyakovo ... Ashmoria (Freedom ... or cake)
This is the eighth line. If your signature is longer, it's too long.

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Minskiev
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Founded: Apr 20, 2020
Left-wing Utopia

Postby Minskiev » Tue Jun 16, 2020 9:49 pm

Alright everybody, don’t mess this up.

Somebody once told me...
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Neanderthaland
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Founded: Sep 10, 2016
Left-wing Utopia

Postby Neanderthaland » Tue Jun 16, 2020 9:50 pm

Minskiev wrote:Alright everybody, don’t mess this up.

Somebody once told me...

You know the rules, and so do I
Ug make fire. Mod ban Ug.

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The Free Joy State
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Posts: 15546
Founded: Jan 05, 2014
Ex-Nation

Postby The Free Joy State » Tue Jun 16, 2020 9:50 pm

Geneviev wrote:
The Free Joy State wrote:Who told you that, out of interest, about the mental health counsellor who escaped the Unification Church (recognised as a cult) and now specialises in destructive cults? Your Pastor?

If so, it's amazing how often the opponents of high-pressure religious groups get slurred, isn't it? I wonder why that happens... It couldn't be anything to do with the fact that sources of information that urge people to question if their behaviour is overly regulated, and their emotions are being controlled and if the world is distorted into black/white good/bad and inside/outside can be threatening to the leadership, can it?

Does your Church have anything to say about cult expert Rick Ross (which also brands the JWs a cult)?

By the way, Rick Ross' ten warning signs of a potentially dangerous group and leader are:
  • Absolute authoritarianism without meaningful accountability.
  • No tolerance for questions or critical inquiry.
  • No meaningful financial disclosure regarding budget, expenses such as an independently audited financial statement.
  • Unreasonable fear about the outside world, such as impending catastrophe, evil conspiracies and persecutions.
  • There is no legitimate reason to leave, former followers are always wrong in leaving, negative or even evil.
  • Former members often relate the same stories of abuse and reflect a similar pattern of grievances.
  • There are records, books, news articles, or television programs that document the abuses of the group/leader.
  • Followers feel they can never be "good enough".
  • The group/leader is always right.
  • The group/leader is the exclusive means of knowing "truth" or receiving validation, no other process of discovery is really acceptable or credible.

I find it fascinating that you think that my information came from my church. I also find it fascinating that people who criticize Hassan are considered cult apologists. A few of the actual sources of my information include this, this, or this.

Your first one -- STAND -- Scientologists Taking Action Against Discrimination -- oh, Jesus.

Look into the Scientologists a little, would you?

The third is at least from the Cult Education Institute (which does brand the JWs a cult); the second I'd need to investigate more to judge how legit the author is.
Last edited by The Free Joy State on Tue Jun 16, 2020 9:51 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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Heloin
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Ex-Nation

Postby Heloin » Tue Jun 16, 2020 9:50 pm

Farnhamia wrote:
South Odreria 2 wrote:I spent like an hour working on a stupid reddit meme that I posted at like the least optimal time to get upvoted

And you could have been here with us. Joy brought rum.*laughs* And rum brings joy.

So considerate of him to give some rum to us, you, and the Guards before being dragged away.

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Heloin
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Ex-Nation

Postby Heloin » Tue Jun 16, 2020 9:51 pm

Neanderthaland wrote:
Minskiev wrote:Alright everybody, don’t mess this up.

Somebody once told me...

You know the rules, and so do I

And I say hey, yeah, yeah, yeah yay
Hey, yay, yay
I said hey, what's goin' on?

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South Odreria 2
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Founded: Aug 26, 2019
Ex-Nation

Postby South Odreria 2 » Tue Jun 16, 2020 9:51 pm

Infected Mushroom wrote:
South Odreria 2 wrote:I spent like an hour working on a stupid reddit meme that I posted at like the least optimal time to get upvoted


How many upvotes?

not enough
Valrifell wrote:
Disregard whatever this poster says

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Geneviev
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Founded: Mar 03, 2018
Democratic Socialists

Postby Geneviev » Tue Jun 16, 2020 9:54 pm

The Free Joy State wrote:
Geneviev wrote:I find it fascinating that you think that my information came from my church. I also find it fascinating that people who criticize Hassan are considered cult apologists. A few of the actual sources of my information include this, this, or this.

Your first one -- STAND -- Scientologists Taking Action Against Discrimination -- oh, Jesus.

Look into the Scientologists a little, would you?

The third is at least from the Cult Education Institute (which does brand the JWs a cult); the second I'd need to investigate more to judge how legit the author is.

Even Scientologists can be right about some things. Anyway, I'm working on a thread for this.
"Above all, keep loving one another earnestly, since love covers a multitude of sins." 1 Peter 4:8

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Minskiev
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Founded: Apr 20, 2020
Left-wing Utopia

Postby Minskiev » Tue Jun 16, 2020 9:56 pm

Heloin wrote:
Neanderthaland wrote:You know the rules, and so do I

And I say hey, yeah, yeah, yeah yay
Hey, yay, yay
I said hey, what's goin' on?


Cuz all the other kids with their pumped up kicks
Better run, better run, faster than my gun
Aaalllll the other kids with their pumped up kicks
Better run, better run, faster than my bullets *tch*
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The Free Joy State
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Founded: Jan 05, 2014
Ex-Nation

Postby The Free Joy State » Tue Jun 16, 2020 9:56 pm

Geneviev wrote:
The Free Joy State wrote:Your first one -- STAND -- Scientologists Taking Action Against Discrimination -- oh, Jesus.

Look into the Scientologists a little, would you?

The third is at least from the Cult Education Institute (which does brand the JWs a cult); the second I'd need to investigate more to judge how legit the author is.

Even Scientologists can be right about some things.

The level of double-think required for this sentence is staggering.
Anyway, I'm working on a thread for this.

Can't wait.

Heloin wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:And you could have been here with us. Joy brought rum.*laughs* And rum brings joy.

So considerate of him to give some rum to us, you, and the Guards before being dragged away.

I escaped. Your bars couldn't hold me.

Mwahahahaha.
"If there's a book that you want to read, but it hasn't been written yet, then you must write it." - Toni Morrison

My nation does not represent my beliefs or politics.

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Farnhamian Guards
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Ex-Nation

Postby Farnhamian Guards » Tue Jun 16, 2020 10:01 pm

The Free Joy State wrote:
Heloin wrote:So considerate of him to give some rum to us, you, and the Guards before being dragged away.

I escaped. Your bars couldn't hold me.

Mwahahahaha.

We unlocked the door because we had finished processing you. If you want to think you can escape that's fine.
Once more unto the breach, dear friends, once more

Unconquered I Serve

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