The case for everyone wearing masks in these times

[Iwassoclose]

stop putting them in a pedestal. they are the number one reason why there are millions of people currently addicted to opiods.

you're right, i'm going to ignore the advice of public health officials during a rapidly intensifying pandemic because of things the pharmaceutical lobby did years ago

Shifting all the blame to pharmaceuticals is dumb. Doctors co-signed pain as a vital sign, ama made sure opioids were handed out like candies

As to the number of masks being utilized, wear anything to cover face. Ski masks, scarves, bandanas, diy masks, money hats. Just cover your damn face.

[The Lone Alliance]

if everyone wore the masks, the particles would be limited to a persons facemask even if they sneezed and would limit the exposure of the virus to themselves

Nope if everyone wore masks the virus particles would travel right through the mask and out the other side.

A Dust mask is going to protect jack and shit from a virus.

The only kind of mask that will protect your from the virus will be a vapor mask.

[Chernoslavia]

Then prep. Nobody has to wait for you.

If you think buying up masks to make life harder for people who actually need it is a good idea because it makes you feel better then let me tell you about a Bridge I’m selling that cures cancer!

Which literally nobody said. Nice try.

[Iwassoclose]

if everyone wore the masks, the particles would be limited to a persons facemask even if they sneezed and would limit the exposure of the virus to themselves

Nope if everyone wore masks the virus particles would travel right through the mask and out the other side.

A Dust mask is going to protect jack and shit from a virus.

The only kind of mask that will protect your from the virus will be a vapor mask.

with your logic all the posts in the first page about people infected wearing masks becomes moot

[SD_Film Artists]

Don’t cause a mask shortage for people who actually need masks.

That implies that the world is getting one type of mask from one company. What's stopping someone from using an improvised mask such as a DIY mask or even a bandana? Sure it's not as good but it's better than nothing.

[The Lone Alliance]

with your logic all the posts in the first page about people infected wearing masks becomes moot

Yes making the infected wear dust masks is a stupid moot thing to do.

Unless they're wearing treated surgical masks or vapor masks they can still infect everyone around them and there's nothing your stupid dust mask can do to stop it.

[Saiwania]

Don’t cause a mask shortage for people who actually need masks.

It is probably better to cause a shortage, for those who want to try to get rich quick.

Step 1: Spread a ton of fake news/fear that the virus is airborne and that you have what they need.
Step 2: Get these people to your place of sales. Have the inventory.
Step 3: Separate them from their money however you can. It doesn't matter if the mask is useless to them later on, provided you made the sale.
Step 4: Profits! If you collect enough money, you can take it and split town, living in the lap of luxury. So long as you're long gone, there will be no refunds.

Try to cause as much shortage as possible so that $1 item can be sold for $80 or more each. That'd really rake in the money, but only if there are enough bamboozled into buying. If it worked well, it could make Donald Trump proud.

[The NewsStand]

I'm in the UK.

An artist I know, who works with fibre-glass, was on the phone to a supplier. They're running low on masks because of unusually high orders.
People who need masks for their day job are finding it harder to get them.

The supplier's supplier has stopped selling them the grade of industrial alcohol that they usually have, as they're saving it for disinfectants.

I was at the supermarket last night. I couldn't buy liquid hand-soap as the five shelves had been completely sold out by panic buyers. Oddly, the bars of soap on the next stand had hardly been touched. So I bought a bar of soap instead.

[Penguinya]

If you wear it, you touch your face a lot, possibly giving yourself the (or a virus/cough) Coronavirus by trying to prevent it.

[Purpelia]

Because by buying those masks you're causing shortages. Which means doctors who are more likely to encounter the issue might not have a mask because you bought one out of needless paranoia.

Yea but like so what? Are you seriously saying I should risk infection just to potentially avoid some rando doctor I've newer even seen potentially getting sick whilst he happens to be surrounded by medical professionals and inside the best place on earth to handle his condition? Screw that. If this thing comes to my country I'm buying a mask.

[The Greater Ohio Valley]

Don’t cause a mask shortage for people who actually need masks.

It is probably better to cause a shortage, for those who want to try to get rich quick.

Step 1: Spread a ton of fake news/fear that the virus is airborne and that you have what they need.
Step 2: Get these people to your place of sales. Have the inventory.
Step 3: Separate them from their money however you can. It doesn't matter if the mask is useless to them later on, provided you made the sale.
Step 4: Profits! If you collect enough money, you can take it and split town, living in the lap of luxury. So long as you're long gone, there will be no refunds.

Try to cause as much shortage as possible so that $1 item can be sold for $80 or more each. That'd really rake in the money, but only if there are enough bamboozled into buying. If it worked well, it could make Donald Trump proud.

That sounds malicious and very likely illegal.

[The Lone Alliance]

That sounds malicious and very likely illegal.

They did it legally during Y2K.

And they also do it with ammunition whenever there's a gun control scare, scalpers are a common thing whenever there's a crisis.

[Partybus]

That sounds malicious and very likely illegal.

They did it legally during Y2K.

And they also do it with ammunition whenever there's a gun control scare, scalpers are a common thing whenever there's a crisis.

I remember a guy down in Florida did that with generators during Katrina or some other devastating storm. Essentially he was run out of town on a rail as he should have been.

[Heloin]

They did it legally during Y2K.

And they also do it with ammunition whenever there's a gun control scare, scalpers are a common thing whenever there's a crisis.

I remember a guy down in Florida did that with generators during Katrina or some other devastating storm. Essentially he was run out of town on a rail as he should have been.

I prefer the story of the guy who bought like 50 generators to give to the Bahamas. That was a nice story.

[US-SSR]

It's a virus. Most masks won't work. Given its persistence and virulence it's not going to be stopped with face masks, hand sanitizers and wet wipes. imo the best thing to do, except if you're a baby, a senior or someone with a resperatory condition, is to go ahead and contract it and take your chances.

[Le Slavador]

It's a virus. Most masks won't work. Given its persistence and virulence it's not going to be stopped with face masks, hand sanitizers and wet wipes. imo the best thing to do, except if you're a baby, a senior or someone with a resperatory condition, is to go ahead and contract it and take your chances.

Which masks do work?

[Saiwania]

That sounds malicious and very likely illegal.

It is quite unfortunate if it is seen this way. After all, its not like I'd be bankrupting anyone if $80 isn't that much but would be much more than the wholesale price as to make it worth my while to gather certain resources in bulk. Besides, no one is forced to buy and I went through more years of unemployment than I should've. I may as well try for a business gambit, even if I'm not at the level yet of being one of those "real" companies that're respected.

[Czechostan]

The coronavirus isn't believed to be airborne, so masks aren't going to do much to protect you.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

why is WHO, CDC and many governments discouraging the use of face masks?

seems counter intuitive and it is. their logic is if you are gonna get infected, then there are multiple vectors that can get you sick aside from just breathing in the virus.

but to me that claim seems pretty dumb. if everyone wore masks then you would drastically cut down on the amount of vectors a person can get sick from. the airborne pathogens are now limited to a persons mask. chain of infection is now cut down to a persons masks. and how often would you rub your face against anothers.

for the best analogy i can think of is the reason we have vaccinations. in this case all the orgs and govs are anti vax.

do you agree or disagree?

What I’ve heard is that the masks do nothing and that they should be saved for medical personnel dealing with the sick. That if you’re a healthy person, you probably don’t need to wear one.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.forbes ... masks/amp/

[The Emerald Legion]

As an aside, I am terribly dissapointed that this thread was not about financial institutions needless paranoia about face covering garments.

[The Holy Therns]

why is WHO, CDC and many governments discouraging the use of face masks?

seems counter intuitive and it is. their logic is if you are gonna get infected, then there are multiple vectors that can get you sick aside from just breathing in the virus.

but to me that claim seems pretty dumb. if everyone wore masks then you would drastically cut down on the amount of vectors a person can get sick from. the airborne pathogens are now limited to a persons mask. chain of infection is now cut down to a persons masks. and how often would you rub your face against anothers.

for the best analogy i can think of is the reason we have vaccinations. in this case all the orgs and govs are anti vax.

do you agree or disagree?

Hmmm, value the input of disease control specialists or person on nation simulator game's message board.

It's so hard, it's so so hard.

[Chernoslavia]

It's a virus. Most masks won't work. Given its persistence and virulence it's not going to be stopped with face masks, hand sanitizers and wet wipes. imo the best thing to do, except if you're a baby, a senior or someone with a resperatory condition, is to go ahead and contract it and take your chances.

Then what gas mask do I need a freaking Mira CM6? Which I do have but fuck.

[Fartsniffage]

It's a virus. Most masks won't work. Given its persistence and virulence it's not going to be stopped with face masks, hand sanitizers and wet wipes. imo the best thing to do, except if you're a baby, a senior or someone with a resperatory condition, is to go ahead and contract it and take your chances.

Then what gas mask do I need a freaking Mira CM6? Which I do have but fuck.

Unless you wear it and also wear double gloves, double foot protection, an outer layer that you burn before taking off the gloves, an inner layer that you boil wash every day, eye protection, a head covering, there is not really much point.

If you get it then it's most likely you touch the virus and then touch your face. Just avoid doing that and wash your hands a lot.

[Washington Resistance Army]

Don't contribute to panic buying stupidity.

[ArenaC]

I’m going to hazard a guess and say no matter what, contracting COVID19 is probably inevitable