The case for everyone wearing masks in these times

[An Alan Smithee Nation]

I did wonder how China's widespread use of facial recognition software copes with China's widespread wearing of face masks.

[New haven america]

Because face masks are basically fucking useless when dealing with the coronavirus and everyone using buying them is just lowering the supplies for hospitals and clinics who will actually need them.

[Kubra]

It's a virus. Most masks won't work. Given its persistence and virulence it's not going to be stopped with face masks, hand sanitizers and wet wipes. imo the best thing to do, except if you're a baby, a senior or someone with a resperatory condition, is to go ahead and contract it and take your chances.

Then what gas mask do I need a freaking Mira CM6? Which I do have but fuck.

Just do the sensible thing folks generally do when virus's are about: avoid large crowds, keep human contact to a necessary minimum (still go to work, but skip the drinks after), and cancel your vacation plans since that combines both of the former things plus the possibility of making the virus, ah, "airborne", if you catch my drift.

[Australian rePublic]

Meanwhile, in China, the opposite is occuring:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=--nN7k0Rc9U

If that's what the CCP is telling you, imagine what they're hiding

[Port Spratly]

Some countries like Singapore and Indonesia already imposed a policy to socialize that wear a mask only if you are sick, people who are well do not need to wear a mask to deal with shortage and rising price.

[Nobel Hobos 2]

Someone refused to shake my hand today. Once I got it, I thought that's fair enough.

I don't care if other people wear face masks, I won't be doing that thankyou.

[The Grims]

I did wonder how China's widespread use of facial recognition software copes with China's widespread wearing of face masks.

I wonder how countries who ban facecoverings ("burqabans") respond.

[SD_Film Artists]

The coronavirus isn't believed to be airborne, so masks aren't going to do much to protect you.

Not passively airborne, but if you have dozens of people coughing and wheezing around you (which is normal for any public-facing job) then you could catch it. So yes a mask would be most helpful.

[The Grims]

The coronavirus isn't believed to be airborne, so masks aren't going to do much to protect you.

Not passively airborne, but if you have dozens of people coughing and wheezing around you (which is normal for any public-facing job) then you could catch it. So yes a mask would be most helpful.

Provided you use it properly. Otherwise it hastens infection.

[SD_Film Artists]

Because face masks are basically fucking useless when dealing with the coronavirus and everyone using buying them is just lowering the supplies for hospitals and clinics who will actually need them.

Assuming that people are buying exactly the kind of disposable mask that doctors use.

[SD_Film Artists]

Not passively airborne, but if you have dozens of people coughing and wheezing around you (which is normal for any public-facing job) then you could catch it. So yes a mask would be most helpful.

Provided you use it properly. Otherwise it hastens infection.

How so? Not that I'm disagreeing.

[Radiatia]

I clicked on this thread hoping it was going to be about why we're all metaphorically wearing masks in this day and age and having to hide our true selves. Nope, instead it's about that damn disease everyone's panicking about.

[SD_Film Artists]

I clicked on this thread hoping it was going to be about why we're all metaphorically wearing masks in this day and age and having to hide our true selves. Nope, instead it's about that damn disease everyone's panicking about.

Or autistic 'masking'- pretending to be neurotypical when in public.

[Forsher]

Last I checked there aren't enough. Hence WHO's advice is "don't wear a mask unless you're sick because otherwise the people who can spread the disease won't have access to a great way of restricting the rate of transmission".

So... yeah.

I clicked on this thread hoping it was going to be about why we're all metaphorically wearing masks in this day and age and having to hide our true selves. Nope, instead it's about that damn disease everyone's panicking about.

To be fair, if you hear the phrase "cytokine storm" then you should be very concerned since it means your immune system can potentially end up your enemy.

I mean, people are more worried than they were with swine flu, measles, zika or ebola but any disease that gives birth to this is can't be all bad.

[The Grims]

Provided you use it properly. Otherwise it hastens infection.

How so? Not that I'm disagreeing.

Touching it, not replacing it often etc turns it into a collector instead of a protector.
It also has the psychological effect of giving people a false sense of security. The virus can after all also enter through the eyes.

[Greater vakolicci haven]

that only works in a perfect world where everyone has self responsibility or can somehow predict they are incubating the disease

every year 30% of the north american population get influenza. that does not seem like an appropriate response to this outbreak.

Unless you're going to follow all the preventative measures medical staff follow then the mask is just a fig leaf. A fig leaf that puts medical staff at vastly increased risk due to shortages.

That's a good point, could I hasten the spread of coronavirus by stockpiling masks?

[The Grims]

Unless you're going to follow all the preventative measures medical staff follow then the mask is just a fig leaf. A fig leaf that puts medical staff at vastly increased risk due to shortages.

That's a good point, could I hasten the spread of coronavirus by stockpiling masks?

Not really.
You can by selling alcoholfree handgel.

[Greater vakolicci haven]

That's a good point, could I hasten the spread of coronavirus by stockpiling masks?

Not really.
You can by selling alcoholfree handgel.

Or handgel that claims to be effective against the coronavirus, but sadly I think that's illegal.

[Cetacea]

1 wearing mask means you have a load of excess germ material stuck on your face
2 Mr Joe public has a tendency to touch their face, wipe a cheek, brush away dribble
3 Mr Joe Public now has germs on his hands which he then leaves on surfaces
4 Mr Joe public may not have the protocols in place to remember to wash hands and wipe down surfaces
5 wearing the mask has actually increased the efficacy of other vectors
6 the mask shortage affects real medical need

[Greater vakolicci haven]

1 wearing mask means you have a load of excess germ material stuck on your face
2 Mr Joe public has a tendency to touch their face, wipe a cheek, brush away dribble
3 Mr Joe Public now has germs on his hands which he then leaves on surfaces
4 Mr Joe public may not have the protocols in place to remember to wash hands and wipe down surfaces
5 wearing the mask has actually increased the efficacy of other vectors
6 the mask shortage affects real medical need

So people should get masks?

[The Grims]

1 wearing mask means you have a load of excess germ material stuck on your face
2 Mr Joe public has a tendency to touch their face, wipe a cheek, brush away dribble
3 Mr Joe Public now has germs on his hands which he then leaves on surfaces
4 Mr Joe public may not have the protocols in place to remember to wash hands and wipe down surfaces
5 wearing the mask has actually increased the efficacy of other vectors
6 the mask shortage affects real medical need

So people should get masks?

And become masked crusaders
Working overtime
Fighting crime

[An Alan Smithee Nation]

The divide, between the people who think the masks are to protect them, and those who realise they are to protect other people, is interesting.

[UniversalCommons]

Hepa masks work. The others are useless and give a false sense of security.

[SD_Film Artists]

The divide, between the people who think the masks are to protect them, and those who realise they are to protect other people, is interesting.

So medical staff and disinfectant teams all have coronavirus?

[Fartsniffage]

The divide, between the people who think the masks are to protect them, and those who realise they are to protect other people, is interesting.

So medical staff and disinfectant teams all have coronavirus?

They are wearing masks as part of a multi-layer protective system while following strict protocols around replacement frequency and disposal method. Some bod just wearing a mask with their jeans and t-shirt is not doing any of the rest of the things that make up some protection from infection. This is really not that complicated....

And bear in mind, the medical staff in China using all the correct protective wear were still seeing infection rates of 30 times that of ordinary citizens.