The case for everyone wearing masks in these times

[Iwassoclose]

why is WHO, CDC and many governments discouraging the use of face masks?

seems counter intuitive and it is. their logic is if you are gonna get infected, then there are multiple vectors that can get you sick aside from just breathing in the virus.

but to me that claim seems pretty dumb. if everyone wore masks then you would drastically cut down on the amount of vectors a person can get sick from. the airborne pathogens are now limited to a persons mask. chain of infection is now cut down to a persons masks. and how often would you rub your face against anothers.

for the best analogy i can think of is the reason we have vaccinations. in this case all the orgs and govs are anti vax.

do you agree or disagree?

[Fartsniffage]

The random public should not be wearing masks unless they already have it and are unable to self isolate for some reason.

[The Emerald Legion]

Because by buying those masks you're causing shortages. Which means doctors who are more likely to encounter the issue might not have a mask because you bought one out of needless paranoia.

[Heloin]

Don’t cause a mask shortage for people who actually need masks.

[Iwassoclose]

The random public should not be wearing masks unless they already have it and are unable to self isolate for some reason.

that only works in a perfect world where everyone has self responsibility or can somehow predict they are incubating the disease

every year 30% of the north american population get influenza. that does not seem like an appropriate response to this outbreak.

[Vassenor]

why is WHO, CDC and many governments discouraging the use of face masks?

seems counter intuitive and it is. their logic is if you are gonna get infected, then there are multiple vectors that can get you sick aside from just breathing in the virus.

but to me that claim seems pretty dumb. if everyone wore masks then you would drastically cut down on the amount of vectors a person can get sick from. the airborne pathogens are now limited to a persons mask. chain of infection is now cut down to a persons masks. and how often would you rub your face against anothers.

for the best analogy i can think of is the reason we have vaccinations. in this case all the orgs and govs are anti vax.

do you agree or disagree?

So how are masks causing autism?

[Iwassoclose]

Because by buying those masks you're causing shortages. Which means doctors who are more likely to encounter the issue might not have a mask because you bought one out of needless paranoia.

Don’t cause a mask shortage for people who actually need masks.

how about we stop the spread of the virus so it doesnt break the medical system?

worrying about the healthcare workers seems like closing the door to the barn after all the animals have already escaped.

being proactive will probably save a lot more lives then being reactive.

[Fartsniffage]

The random public should not be wearing masks unless they already have it and are unable to self isolate for some reason.

that only works in a perfect world where everyone has self responsibility or can somehow predict they are incubating the disease

every year 30% of the north american population get influenza. that does not seem like an appropriate response to this outbreak.

Unless you're going to follow all the preventative measures medical staff follow then the mask is just a fig leaf. A fig leaf that puts medical staff at vastly increased risk due to shortages.

[Andsed]

The only people who it make sense to be wearing masks are those in areas that have a ton of infections(China, Italy, Iran etc) and medical workers. The virus is not something to be ignored for sure but going out and buying masks is not going to be helpful and will just cause a shortage.

[The Lone Alliance]

why is WHO, CDC and many governments discouraging the use of face masks?

seems counter intuitive and it is. their logic is if you are gonna get infected, then there are multiple vectors that can get you sick aside from just breathing in the virus.

but to me that claim seems pretty dumb. if everyone wore masks then you would drastically cut down on the amount of vectors a person can get sick from. the airborne pathogens are now limited to a persons mask. chain of infection is now cut down to a persons masks. and how often would you rub your face against anothers.

for the best analogy i can think of is the reason we have vaccinations. in this case all the orgs and govs are anti vax.

do you agree or disagree?

Dust masks do absolutely nothing to protect you against the virus.
Even if you're wearing a dust mask you will still be able to breathe the virus in because Dust masks do not block microscopic particles.

If anything the moisture from your breath on the mask will provide the virus a place to rest on and incubate in.

Since the vast majority of masks people are buying up are dust masks, they're only giving themselves a placebo effect.

[Heloin]

Because by buying those masks you're causing shortages. Which means doctors who are more likely to encounter the issue might not have a mask because you bought one out of needless paranoia.

Don’t cause a mask shortage for people who actually need masks.

how about we stop the spread of the virus so it doesnt break the medical system?

worrying about the healthcare workers seems like closing the door to the barn after all the animals have already escaped.

being proactive will probably save a lot more lives then being reactive.

No, your buying into a panic that won’t solve anything but put peoples lives in danger.

[Senkaku]

the doctors say this, but i, a random poster, think that's dumb, and will now destroy them with facts and logic. thoughts??

[Iwassoclose]

that only works in a perfect world where everyone has self responsibility or can somehow predict they are incubating the disease

every year 30% of the north american population get influenza. that does not seem like an appropriate response to this outbreak.

Unless you're going to follow all the preventative measures medical staff follow then the mask is just a fig leaf. A fig leaf that puts medical staff at vastly increased risk due to shortages.

medical staff work directly in frontlines and are exposed to the virus on daily basis if they are taking care of an infected patient.

medical staff also dont wear the types of masks a civilian wears. they are fitted with specialized masks

[Iwassoclose]

why is WHO, CDC and many governments discouraging the use of face masks?

seems counter intuitive and it is. their logic is if you are gonna get infected, then there are multiple vectors that can get you sick aside from just breathing in the virus.

but to me that claim seems pretty dumb. if everyone wore masks then you would drastically cut down on the amount of vectors a person can get sick from. the airborne pathogens are now limited to a persons mask. chain of infection is now cut down to a persons masks. and how often would you rub your face against anothers.

for the best analogy i can think of is the reason we have vaccinations. in this case all the orgs and govs are anti vax.

do you agree or disagree?

Dust masks do absolutely nothing to protect you against the virus.
Even if you're wearing a dust mask you will still be able to breathe the virus in because Dust masks do not block microscopic particles.

If anything the moisture from your breath on the mask will provide the virus a place to rest on and incubate in.

Since the vast majority of masks people are buying up are dust masks, they're only giving themselves a placebo effect.

if everyone wore the masks, the particles would be limited to a persons facemask even if they sneezed and would limit the exposure of the virus to themselves

the doctors say this, but i, a random poster, think that's dumb, and will now destroy them with facts and logic. thoughts??

stop putting them in a pedestal. they are the number one reason why there are millions of people currently addicted to opiods.

[Partybus]

Interestingly enough, I was at the hospital getting my port flushed, and I asked the RN about the masks (specifically because I am now taking immune system suppressing meds to treat psoriasis, and am going to be traveling a lot this Spring and Summer) she told me that a mask will help to lessen the chance of spreading the virus but will not help with not getting it, so, no mask, and cross my fingers...

[Valentine Z]

The masks, by default, are not very effective in protecting you. It's not so much to keep you from getting sick; it's to prevent others from catching YOUR bug if you are unwell.

[Heloin]

Unless you're going to follow all the preventative measures medical staff follow then the mask is just a fig leaf. A fig leaf that puts medical staff at vastly increased risk due to shortages.

medical staff work directly in frontlines and are exposed to the virus on daily basis if they are taking care of an infected patient.

medical staff also dont wear the types of masks a civilian wears. they are fitted with specialized masks

Do you know what a surgical mask is?

[Iwassoclose]

medical staff work directly in frontlines and are exposed to the virus on daily basis if they are taking care of an infected patient.

medical staff also dont wear the types of masks a civilian wears. they are fitted with specialized masks

Do you know what a surgical mask is?

not an n95 mask

and if you say they wear them, then by that logic shouldnt it also protect me

[Iwassoclose]

The masks, by default, are not very effective in protecting you. It's not so much to keep you from getting sick; it's to prevent others from catching YOUR bug if you are unwell.

yes thats the point, everyone wears it. that cuts down on chances of infection.

we dont know who is sick until they start displaying the symptons.

[Thermodolia]

The random public should not be wearing masks unless they already have it and are unable to self isolate for some reason.

And if they have a weakened immune system. My sister is one of those people. No joke she’s gotta sick with things that are super rare

[Heloin]

Do you know what a surgical mask is?

not an n95 mask

and if you say they wear them, then by that logic shouldnt it also protect me

You need to replace a surgical mask every 8 hours at the least. At the end of the week you’ve of already used up about 14 and 56 in a month. Depending on what your doing that number can easily rise to 100 a month for just you, and you want all 8 billion people to wear surgical masks all the time.

[Chernoslavia]

Don’t cause a mask shortage for people who actually need masks.

Then prep. Nobody has to wait for you.

[Heloin]

Don’t cause a mask shortage for people who actually need masks.

Then prep. Nobody has to wait for you.

If you think buying up masks to make life harder for people who actually need it is a good idea because it makes you feel better then let me tell you about a Bridge I’m selling that cures cancer!

[Saiwania]

I'm not a good merchant or reseller, so I can't do this. When I do manage to sell something, it often has to be at a discount because other people who can sell better than I can, can charge higher prices.

What I'd like to do, is buy up masks in bulk and sell it for much higher while there is a shortage so that hopefully- I could get rich quick. I'm only not doing it because chances are, I'd lose my shirt getting into it. Be left with a lot of inventory I can't sell off quickly enough and maybe a big debt.

[Senkaku]

the doctors say this, but i, a random poster, think that's dumb, and will now destroy them with facts and logic. thoughts??

stop putting them in a pedestal. they are the number one reason why there are millions of people currently addicted to opiods.

you're right, i'm going to ignore the advice of public health officials during a rapidly intensifying pandemic because of things the pharmaceutical lobby did years ago