by Australian rePublic » Thu Mar 05, 2020 2:45 am
by New-Purple Republic » Thu Mar 05, 2020 2:51 am
by Australian rePublic » Thu Mar 05, 2020 2:54 am
New-Purple Republic wrote:Just because China calls themselves communist, doesn't mean they actually are, it's pretty clear they love their state capitalism and much has changed in the last 70 years. Anyways HK and Macau are under the boot of China as they're both Special Administrative Republics. Poor example.
by SD_Film Artists » Thu Mar 05, 2020 2:57 am
New-Purple Republic wrote:Just because China calls themselves communist, doesn't mean they actually are
by Gikyvernisi » Thu Mar 05, 2020 2:58 am
by Maydona » Thu Mar 05, 2020 3:30 am
by Grenartia » Thu Mar 05, 2020 3:34 am
Australian rePublic wrote:Under true communism, China was alot worse.
by Hong Kong People » Thu Mar 05, 2020 3:39 am
by Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States » Thu Mar 05, 2020 3:39 am
by Kubra » Thu Mar 05, 2020 3:39 am
by New haven america » Thu Mar 05, 2020 3:40 am
by Shurdington » Thu Mar 05, 2020 3:40 am
"Shurdingtonians are not like the others — their manners are not so polite;Diplomatic and Consular Programme
But they never mean anything serious 'til they speak about Justice and Right.
From the richest old Thane in the country to the poorest chained serf in the field,
They'll be at you and on you like hornets, and, if you are wise, you will yield."
by Juristonia » Thu Mar 05, 2020 3:42 am
Liriena wrote:Say what you will about fascists: they are remarkably consistent even after several decades of failing spectacularly elsewhere.
Ifreann wrote:Indeed, as far as I can recall only one poster has ever supported legalising bestiality, and he was fucking his cat and isn't welcome here any more, in no small part, I imagine, because he kept going on about how he was fucking his cat.
Cannot think of a name wrote:Anyway, I'm from gold country, we grow up knowing that when people jump up and down shouting "GOLD GOLD GOLD" the gold is gone and the only money to be made is in selling shovels.
And it seems to me that cryptocurrency and NFTs and such suddenly have a whooooole lot of shovel salespeople.
by Hong Kong People » Thu Mar 05, 2020 3:43 am
Shurdington wrote:There are plenty of human rights abuses in capitalist countries as well - does that make capitalism a cancer?
by Kubra » Thu Mar 05, 2020 3:43 am
We-he-heeeell let's try this stuff then: was the Soviet Union communist in 1923?SD_Film Artists wrote:Thread sponsored by Zombie Reagan 2020New-Purple Republic wrote:Just because China calls themselves communist, doesn't mean they actually are
That's true, and I wonder if there's really anywhere which is truly communist as whenever it fails (or becomes capitalist like China) the communists/socialists pull another 'no true Scotsman' fallacy is it wasn't real communism.
by Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States » Thu Mar 05, 2020 3:43 am
Hong Kong People wrote:Shurdington wrote:There are plenty of human rights abuses in capitalist countries as well - does that make capitalism a cancer?
Do you ever see a communist country who has good human rights record ? I can give lots of example of capitalist countries having excellent human rights record.
by Hong Kong People » Thu Mar 05, 2020 3:48 am
by Grenartia » Thu Mar 05, 2020 3:55 am
Hong Kong People wrote:Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States wrote:I have not seen a communist country yet.
Do some research on China's Great Leap Forward movement and China's history of establishing people's commune .Communism was implemented in China back then.See how people suffer on your own. You might probably wake up from your dream of how good a communist society will be.
by Kubra » Thu Mar 05, 2020 3:56 am
hot take: Mao never said it was.Grenartia wrote:Hong Kong People wrote:Do some research on China's Great Leap Forward movement and China's history of establishing people's commune .Communism was implemented in China back then.See how people suffer on your own. You might probably wake up from your dream of how good a communist society will be.
Prove either of those things were actually communism. Pro tip: just because Mao said it was, and just because tankies say it was, doesn't mean it actually was.
by Australian rePublic » Thu Mar 05, 2020 3:56 am
by Australian rePublic » Thu Mar 05, 2020 3:59 am
Hong Kong People wrote:Shurdington wrote:There are plenty of human rights abuses in capitalist countries as well - does that make capitalism a cancer?
Do you ever see a communist country who has good human rights record ? On the other hand,I can give lots of example of capitalist countries having excellent human rights record.
by Kubra » Thu Mar 05, 2020 4:02 am
Oh yeah they were trying to achieve communism, and that's the big detail. There's an eschatology at work, usually when it comes to these parties of the eastern model they're expressed as stages. The official CPC line is that they're in the primary stage of socialism, which I take to mean "level 1, still in tutorial village". Whether or not they actually believe that tripe is another thing.Australian rePublic wrote:Hong Kong People wrote:Do you ever see a communist country who has good human rights record ? On the other hand,I can give lots of example of capitalist countries having excellent human rights record.
Extreme capitalism is bad. Maybe not a cancer, but bad as communism. The best system is a balance of both systemsKubra wrote: hot take: Mao never said it was.
If the China Communist Party weren't trying to achieve communism, they would have given themselves a different name
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