by Rojava Free State » Thu Feb 27, 2020 9:20 pm
by Bombadil » Thu Feb 27, 2020 9:23 pm
by Exxosia » Thu Feb 27, 2020 9:28 pm
Rojava Free State wrote:"What kind of world makes monsters out of men?"
Rojava Free State wrote:More importantly, does the environment make a person a sick and twisted maniac or are they born this way?
Rojava Free State wrote:If the life one leads warps them into a violent and dangerous individual, how long does it take?
Rojava Free State wrote:And can they be rehabilitated?.
by Adersfield » Thu Feb 27, 2020 9:32 pm
by Neanderthaland » Thu Feb 27, 2020 9:38 pm
by Bear Stearns » Thu Feb 27, 2020 9:48 pm
by Giovenith » Thu Feb 27, 2020 10:05 pm
by Geneviev » Thu Feb 27, 2020 10:08 pm
by Tiltjuice » Thu Feb 27, 2020 10:11 pm
by Restoration of Eastern Kaiserreich » Thu Feb 27, 2020 10:19 pm
by Bombadil » Thu Feb 27, 2020 10:30 pm
Restoration of Eastern Kaiserreich wrote:It really depends a lot on what you define as being "evil". Psychopaths, the natural subject of this thread, are indeed born. But should they be considered evil the moment they come out of the womb? Or would you rely on their future actions rather than mentality to decide if they're evil or not? Answer's honestly up to you.
by Tiltjuice » Thu Feb 27, 2020 10:32 pm
Bombadil wrote:Restoration of Eastern Kaiserreich wrote:It really depends a lot on what you define as being "evil". Psychopaths, the natural subject of this thread, are indeed born. But should they be considered evil the moment they come out of the womb? Or would you rely on their future actions rather than mentality to decide if they're evil or not? Answer's honestly up to you.
Not really, we can recognise the conditions and alleviate them.
There was an interesting case of a child prone to outbursts of violence. It had led to a pattern between parents and child, this pattern can become entrenched so the original cause is no longer the trigger but the pattern itself is the trigger.
Actually, when they recorded the child's sleep, they discovered that the house pets were constantly climbing into the child's bed, pushing him out and generally disrupting his sleep. He was tired and cranky.
However just keeping the pets out of his room wasn't enough because of the pattern, so they also had to rework they way they reacted to any outburst. In a short time he was a perfectly normal kid.
Even those with brain disorders that create a serious lack of empathy can be managed given the issue is recognised and reacted to appropriately. The main issue can be that frustration cycles the condition into a pattern of violence that is removed from the original condition.
by -Astoria » Thu Feb 27, 2020 10:33 pm
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by Bombadil » Thu Feb 27, 2020 10:39 pm
Tiltjuice wrote:Bombadil wrote:
Not really, we can recognise the conditions and alleviate them.
There was an interesting case of a child prone to outbursts of violence. It had led to a pattern between parents and child, this pattern can become entrenched so the original cause is no longer the trigger but the pattern itself is the trigger.
Actually, when they recorded the child's sleep, they discovered that the house pets were constantly climbing into the child's bed, pushing him out and generally disrupting his sleep. He was tired and cranky.
However just keeping the pets out of his room wasn't enough because of the pattern, so they also had to rework they way they reacted to any outburst. In a short time he was a perfectly normal kid.
Even those with brain disorders that create a serious lack of empathy can be managed given the issue is recognised and reacted to appropriately. The main issue can be that frustration cycles the condition into a pattern of violence that is removed from the original condition.
Would you happen to have the link? or any other source
by Tiltjuice » Thu Feb 27, 2020 10:40 pm
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by Grimmsland » Thu Feb 27, 2020 11:25 pm
Rojava Free State wrote: Some would say you can't change a Leopard's spots while others claim you can teach an old dog new tricks. Tonight I wanna really debate the issues and get down to the nitty gritty of what turns a good man evil. So come all you fellow thinkers and romantics, because it's that time again. So without further ado, let's get it started.
by Infected Mushroom » Fri Feb 28, 2020 12:21 am
by Neanderthaland » Fri Feb 28, 2020 12:29 am
Infected Mushroom wrote:Yes we are.
Babies are 100 percent self centered.
You give a baby unlimited power they’ll use it to kill and crush everyone and everything instantly to get what they want, zero hesitation
Be glad babies are born small and weak
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We have to be brainwashed/conditioned to be away from Evil. Others eventually relapse into it. But it’s the default state.
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