Oregon Republicans Walk Out Again to Stop Climate Bill

[Galloism]

Here's a question for you.

If a senator doesn't come to the senate that day, because he's at a state agency reviewing their handling of the money that the senate and house have apportioned to them, to make sure that money is being used responsibly, is that not doing their job, or doing their job?

And why?

That is not the same thing

I think the question is important to be answered.

Is that doing their job or not? And why?

[The Black Forrest]

Why is rendering government inoperable a good thing?

They can't fuck things up if they can't work.

Indeed. They can watch the businessmen fuck things up.

[Proctopeo]

Well, it worked the first time. No easy way for it to not work a second time... either they get their way, or become martyrs.


Indeed.

They are not doing their jobs. why not just flat out refuse to show up for session at all?

As I'm sure I explained the last time this happened, they are doing their jobs by not doing their jobs.

How would they become martyrs?

If the state police get involved, wager a guess.

[Nouveau Yathrib]

Goddamnit OR GOP...

[San Lumen]

They are not doing their jobs. why not just flat out refuse to show up for session at all?

As I'm sure I explained the last time this happened, they are doing their jobs by not doing their jobs.

How would they become martyrs?

If the state police get involved, wager a guess.

Therefore its ok to give the finger to the majority of the state? If Republicans in your state did this you'd cheer them on?

They aren't going to shoot them and killing state police would not get them much sympathy.

[The Black Forrest]

Goddamnit OR GOP...

The GOP is gone. It’s now the Trump Party.

[San Lumen]

Goddamnit OR GOP...

The GOP is gone. It’s now the Trump Party.

im surprised they haven't replicated this tactic in every state legislature where they are in the minority. Why not do it in Congress to?

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

They are not doing their jobs. why not just flat out refuse to show up for session at all?

As I'm sure I explained the last time this happened, they are doing their jobs by not doing their jobs.

How would they become martyrs?

If the state police get involved, wager a guess.

Apparently letting the climate be fucked to the point where Florada becomes underwater is there job now.

The police would just drag them into the room and force them to vote.

[Proctopeo]

As I'm sure I explained the last time this happened, they are doing their jobs by not doing their jobs.


If the state police get involved, wager a guess.

Therefore its ok to give the finger to the majority of the state? If Republicans in your state did this you'd cheer them on?

They wouldn't have to in my state, given that they control the Senate.
If the Democrats did the same, I'd find it interesting.

They aren't going to shoot them and killing state police would not get them much sympathy.

What if... a jumpy police officer does shoot a senator, due to mistaking something (like a banana or a cellphone) for a weapon? It's always a possibility.

[The Emerald Legion]

They can't fuck things up if they can't work.

By that logic if your in the minority why bother showing up to the legislature at all? You didnt win the most seats therefore punish everyone by not doing the job you were elected to do.

They were elected to advance the agenda of those who elected them. If they can best do that by bringing the government to a grinding halt, then they are doing their job.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

At this point they might as well just show up, vote no, then go home. The issue is going to come up again.

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

Therefore its ok to give the finger to the majority of the state? If Republicans in your state did this you'd cheer them on?

They wouldn't have to in my state, given that they control the Senate.
If the Democrats did the same, I'd find it interesting.

They aren't going to shoot them and killing state police would not get them much sympathy.

What if... a jumpy police officer does shoot a senator, due to mistaking something (like a banana or a cellphone) for a weapon? It's always a possibility.

It's not your state so that point is moot.

What if they don't?

[San Lumen]

By that logic if your in the minority why bother showing up to the legislature at all? You didnt win the most seats therefore punish everyone by not doing the job you were elected to do.

They were elected to advance the agenda of those who elected them. If they can best do that by bringing the government to a grinding halt, then they are doing their job.

Then vote no on the damm bill and stop acting like spoiled children. Why not just get elected and then not show up the entire session?

[West Leas Oros 2]

That would be splendid actually.

Ok call up or send an email to your leaders of your state Republican party telling them to this. Why is rendering government inoperable a good thing?

Because the government sucks.

[The Black Forrest]

By that logic if your in the minority why bother showing up to the legislature at all? You didnt win the most seats therefore punish everyone by not doing the job you were elected to do.

They were elected to advance the agenda of those who elected them. If they can best do that by bringing the government to a grinding halt, then they are doing their job.

How is there an agenda when people tend to be single issue/soundbite voters?

So? What agenda would that be and let’s see your source.

[Galloism]

They were elected to advance the agenda of those who elected them.

Then vote no on the damm bill and stop acting like spoiled children.

How would this advance the agenda of those who elected them?

[Proctopeo]

They wouldn't have to in my state, given that they control the Senate.
If the Democrats did the same, I'd find it interesting.


What if... a jumpy police officer does shoot a senator, due to mistaking something (like a banana or a cellphone) for a weapon? It's always a possibility.

It's not your state so that point is moot.

What?

What if they don't?

If they retain their dignity while being forcibly dragged back to vote, they can easily spin it in their favor.

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

By that logic if your in the minority why bother showing up to the legislature at all? You didnt win the most seats therefore punish everyone by not doing the job you were elected to do.

They were elected to advance the agenda of those who elected them. If they can best do that by bringing the government to a grinding halt, then they are doing their job.

Again there agenda must involve fucking over the planet and the climate. Not one to really support tbh.

[San Lumen]

Then vote no on the damm bill and stop acting like spoiled children.

How would this advance the agenda of those who elected them?

They arent the only ones who matter.

[The Emerald Legion]

They were elected to advance the agenda of those who elected them. If they can best do that by bringing the government to a grinding halt, then they are doing their job.

Then vote no on the damm bill and stop acting like spoiled children. Why not just get elected and then not show up the entire session?

That doesn't advance their agenda. It advances yours.

Why not indeed? The world would be better off if our elected officials just fucking stayed home and did nothing.

[Proctopeo]

How would this advance the agenda of those who elected them?

They arent the only ones who matter.

You act like the people who elected them don't matter at all, so...

[Galloism]

How would this advance the agenda of those who elected them?

They arent the only ones who matter.

I understand that. And the governor has options.

But I'm asking how showing up and losing would serve to advance the agenda of those who elected them. How does your response address the statement you quoted?

[San Lumen]

Then vote no on the damm bill and stop acting like spoiled children. Why not just get elected and then not show up the entire session?

That doesn't advance their agenda. It advances yours.

Why not indeed? The world would be better off if our elected officials just fucking stayed home and did nothing.

And the budget not getting passed would somehow not effect you.

[Hakons]

How would this advance the agenda of those who elected them?

They arent the only ones who matter.

You're angry that Republicans are doing their utmost to advance the interests of their constituents. They represent their constituents, not the state as a whole.

[The Black Forrest]

Then vote no on the damm bill and stop acting like spoiled children.

How would this advance the agenda of those who elected them?

What agenda would that be?