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2020 US General Election Thread V: Pandemic Postpones Polls

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Are You Worried About Covid-19 Cancelling or Postponing Your Election?

Yes
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24%
No
61
44%
Covid? Just A Chinese-Lizard People-Naked Mole Rat Conspiracy!
8
6%
I, For One, Welcome/Write-In Our New Corona Overlords.
38
27%
 
Total votes : 140

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Postby San Lumen » Mon Mar 09, 2020 8:52 am

Washington Resistance Army wrote:Tbh even if Biden does win you're just gonna get another Trump a few years later. Going back to the same old shit won't work. An ever increasing number of people want serious shakeups.

Like who?

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Postby Cisairse » Mon Mar 09, 2020 8:52 am

San Lumen wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:Tbh even if Biden does win you're just gonna get another Trump a few years later. Going back to the same old shit won't work. An ever increasing number of people want serious shakeups.

Like who?


John McAfee
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Mon Mar 09, 2020 8:53 am

San Lumen wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:Tbh even if Biden does win you're just gonna get another Trump a few years later. Going back to the same old shit won't work. An ever increasing number of people want serious shakeups.

Like who?


Anyone. The anti-establishment hostility and general disdain for the current system is only going to keep growing.

Cisairse wrote:
San Lumen wrote:Like who?


John McAfee


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Postby Kruiven » Mon Mar 09, 2020 8:53 am

Washington Resistance Army wrote:Tbh even if Biden does win you're just gonna get another Trump a few years later. Going back to the same old shit won't work. An ever increasing number of people want serious shakeups.

Yup. Don't tell neolibs this.
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Postby San Lumen » Mon Mar 09, 2020 8:53 am

Cisairse wrote:
San Lumen wrote:Like who?


John McAfee

who is that?

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Postby Kruiven » Mon Mar 09, 2020 8:53 am

San Lumen wrote:
Kruiven wrote:Low bar. Biden is still gonna do way too little on climate. It won't matter though since neolibs will cheer as the world is now saved because Trump is gone and the US is back in the Paris Accord.

He would do plenty on the climate.

No he won't. His plans are awful, and multiple climate groups have given him an F on them.
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Postby United States of Devonta » Mon Mar 09, 2020 8:53 am

Washington Resistance Army wrote:Tbh even if Biden does win you're just gonna get another Trump a few years later. Going back to the same old shit won't work. An ever increasing number of people want serious shakeups.


Exactly. You'll get an even worse Right-wing populist.
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Postby Cisairse » Mon Mar 09, 2020 8:54 am

San Lumen wrote:
Cisairse wrote:
John McAfee

who is that?


Literally how do you not know
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Postby Kruiven » Mon Mar 09, 2020 8:54 am

United States of Devonta wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:Tbh even if Biden does win you're just gonna get another Trump a few years later. Going back to the same old shit won't work. An ever increasing number of people want serious shakeups.


Exactly. You'll get an even worse Right-wing populist.

Don't worry, after that one the Dems will still nominate someone who wants to return us to the past.
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Postby San Lumen » Mon Mar 09, 2020 8:54 am

Cisairse wrote:
San Lumen wrote:who is that?


Literally how do you not know

I dont know who that is.

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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Mon Mar 09, 2020 8:55 am

Kruiven wrote:
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:Better then what Trump has done with his """"""clean """""" coal plants and running around with anti science tweets and fingers in his ears going "Climate Change is dem hoax!!!111"

Low bar. Biden is still gonna do way too little on climate. It won't matter though since neolibs will cheer as the world is now saved because Trump is gone and the US is back in the Paris Accord.


This whole Trump administration is a low bar to jump.

Trump is just that shitty of a president.

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The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Ever read r/kotaku in action?

Full of anti SJW hype and nonsense. Same sort you would see in a Trump cult.


And how was that a factor in the 2016 election?


Gave a bunch of anti SJW yt channels lots of views and subscribers.

Morons like The Quartering got loads of money off Gamergate and that helped them flip to publishing more anti SJW garbage on the internet.

THe anti SJW garbage just gave Trump more hype beacuse "lOl hE piSSes OfF Da SjW's!!!11111".

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Postby Minimark » Mon Mar 09, 2020 8:55 am

I feel like its all rigged.

Trumps biggest plus was his economy which a majority of Americans view as favorable. With the market crashing because a Saudi Oil War and Coronavirus, many Americans believe its bad even though job numbers continue to grow, along with wage numbers slower. So people will feel the need for some reform but not radical reform, and go for Uncle Joe over Trump making Biden president. I feel like the market falling secures the chance Sanders has a shot. He only has a shot in economic paradise or economic wasteland.

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Postby Cisairse » Mon Mar 09, 2020 8:56 am

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Kruiven wrote:Low bar. Biden is still gonna do way too little on climate. It won't matter though since neolibs will cheer as the world is now saved because Trump is gone and the US is back in the Paris Accord.


This whole Trump administration is a low bar to jump.

Trump is just that shitty of a president.

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And how was that a factor in the 2016 election?


Gave a bunch of anti SJW yt channels lots of views and subscribers.

Morons like The Quartering got loads of money off Gamergate and that helped them flip to publishing more anti SJW garbage on the internet.

THe anti SJW garbage just gave Trump more hype beacuse "lOl hE piSSes OfF Da SjW's!!!11111".


I cannot believe that Gamergate-related YouTube channels actually had a tangible effect in flipping states to vote Republican in 2016. It seems like such a subset of a subset of a group of people mostly too young to vote.
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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Mon Mar 09, 2020 8:59 am

Washington Resistance Army wrote:Tbh even if Biden does win you're just gonna get another Trump a few years later. Going back to the same old shit won't work. An ever increasing number of people want serious shakeups.


Ironically the want of serious shake ups will keep this new cycle going.

Trump 2.0 in 2024. Removal of Trump 2.0 in 2028 by another neo lib while the people who want mass changes on the left get shafted again.

Repeat for 2032.

Welcome to echo chambers: where facts don't matter but entertaining lying memes (both dawkins memes and normal memes) do.

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Postby Ifreann » Mon Mar 09, 2020 8:59 am

Zurkerx wrote:
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:Ah yes beacuse a president with 53% disapproval rating will get a second term.


Also Fl will most likely flip dem with Biden.


There is a concern that Biden does lack the enthusiasm, but the way the Coronavirus is going and how it's effecting the economy, it won't matter who the nominee is: that economy tanks and Trump is royally fucked. I do agree Biden has a better shot at Florida then Sanders and honestly, this next debate probably won't change much nor do I care about the setting.

Trump's whole thing is image management, even back when he was just a real estate guy. But you can't use PR spin to make a virus go away, and when it's spreading all over the country you can't convince people that it's not happening.
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Postby Cisairse » Mon Mar 09, 2020 9:02 am

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:Tbh even if Biden does win you're just gonna get another Trump a few years later. Going back to the same old shit won't work. An ever increasing number of people want serious shakeups.


Ironically the want of serious shake ups will keep this new cycle going.

Trump 2.0 in 2024. Removal of Trump 2.0 in 2028 by another neo lib while the people who want mass changes on the left get shafted again.

Repeat for 2032.

Welcome to echo chambers: where facts don't matter but entertaining lying memes (both dawkins memes and normal memes) do.


More like Trump 1.0 in 2024.
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Postby Jerzylvania » Mon Mar 09, 2020 9:03 am

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Jerzylvania wrote:Here's today's poll on the general.

CNN Poll:General Election: Biden 53 Trump 43 - Sanders 52 Trump 45


Good. Keep these numbers up and we toss Trump out.


Yeah buddy. Out on his bum.
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Postby San Lumen » Mon Mar 09, 2020 9:03 am

Ifreann wrote:
Zurkerx wrote:
There is a concern that Biden does lack the enthusiasm, but the way the Coronavirus is going and how it's effecting the economy, it won't matter who the nominee is: that economy tanks and Trump is royally fucked. I do agree Biden has a better shot at Florida then Sanders and honestly, this next debate probably won't change much nor do I care about the setting.

Trump's whole thing is image management, even back when he was just a real estate guy. But you can't use PR spin to make a virus go away, and when it's spreading all over the country you can't convince people that it's not happening.

but a fair number of people believe everything he says. I saw an interview on CNN with Trump supporters and one of them called the Coronavirus a hoax made up by Democrats to take down Trump because they know they can't win

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Postby United States of Devonta » Mon Mar 09, 2020 9:04 am

Cisairse wrote:
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Ironically the want of serious shake ups will keep this new cycle going.

Trump 2.0 in 2024. Removal of Trump 2.0 in 2028 by another neo lib while the people who want mass changes on the left get shafted again.

Repeat for 2032.

Welcome to echo chambers: where facts don't matter but entertaining lying memes (both dawkins memes and normal memes) do.


More like Trump 1.0 in 2024.


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Postby Cisairse » Mon Mar 09, 2020 9:04 am

San Lumen wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Trump's whole thing is image management, even back when he was just a real estate guy. But you can't use PR spin to make a virus go away, and when it's spreading all over the country you can't convince people that it's not happening.

but a fair number of people believe everything he says. I saw an interview on CNN with Trump supporters and one of them called the Coronavirus a hoax made up by Democrats to take down Trump because they know they can't win


I'm sure they'll still believe that when they catch it.
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Postby Cisairse » Mon Mar 09, 2020 9:05 am

United States of Devonta wrote:
Cisairse wrote:
More like Trump 1.0 in 2024.


Donald Trump Jr. 2024


No, I'm serious. If Joe Biden wins in 2020, I fully expect the Republicans to go full Grover Cleveland and just field Trump again in 2024.
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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Mon Mar 09, 2020 9:06 am

Cisairse wrote:
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
This whole Trump administration is a low bar to jump.

Trump is just that shitty of a president.



Gave a bunch of anti SJW yt channels lots of views and subscribers.

Morons like The Quartering got loads of money off Gamergate and that helped them flip to publishing more anti SJW garbage on the internet.

THe anti SJW garbage just gave Trump more hype beacuse "lOl hE piSSes OfF Da SjW's!!!11111".


I cannot believe that Gamergate-related YouTube channels actually had a tangible effect in flipping states to vote Republican in 2016. It seems like such a subset of a subset of a group of people mostly too young to vote.


Personal incredibly aside, it did happen. They got millions of views from pumping out there garbage into there brainwashed audience.
Those views did indeed translate to at least some votes that where the tie breakers in some states.

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Postby Minimark » Mon Mar 09, 2020 9:06 am

Cisairse wrote:
United States of Devonta wrote:
Donald Trump Jr. 2024


No, I'm serious. If Joe Biden wins in 2020, I fully expect the Republicans to go full Grover Cleveland and just field Trump again in 2024.


78 year old Trump vs. 82 year old Joe Biden in the battle of who doesn't die of stroke first.

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Postby United States of Devonta » Mon Mar 09, 2020 9:07 am

Cisairse wrote:
United States of Devonta wrote:
Donald Trump Jr. 2024


No, I'm serious. If Joe Biden wins in 2020, I fully expect the Republicans to go full Grover Cleveland and just field Trump again in 2024.


Very unlikely. I think the GOP establishment would try to (unsuccessfully) move itsself away from Trumpism.
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Postby Jerzylvania » Mon Mar 09, 2020 9:07 am

Kruiven wrote:
Gormwood wrote:Throwing a Trump victory party even before the Democratic nominee is confirmed. But Clinton was supposed to be the presumptuous one.

Just throwing in some reality and the reverse of what I've seen from moderate Dems who are throwing a Biden victory party.

Well tbh, that was only after the Sanders victory party fizzled last week.
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