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2020 US General Election Thread V: Pandemic Postpones Polls

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8
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I, For One, Welcome/Write-In Our New Corona Overlords.
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Postby LimaUniformNovemberAlpha » Sun Mar 22, 2020 5:21 pm

Saiwania wrote:https://www.hhs.gov/about/news/2019/11/15/trump-administration-announces-historic-price-transparency-and-lower-healthcare-costs-for-all-americans.html

One good thing that Donald Trump is doing that too many people aren't aware of. It should be noted that the Medical lobbies are suing to stop this, whilst making a pitiful argument that people knowing prices before any medical procedures will just confuse patients.

We can't let Joe Biden win this November because he's on the side of the hospitals and medical providers that're ripping people off and that purposely don't want themselves to be subject to market forces. If Biden gets in, it means the price transparency that'll be forced on medical providers will end before it even begins, and they can go back to their previous games of jacking up prices to give private insurers fake discounts that're more accurately just mark downs from margin.

How do we know Trump wouldn't do the same?
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Postby Nobel Hobos 2 » Sun Mar 22, 2020 5:31 pm

LimaUniformNovemberAlpha wrote:
Saiwania wrote:https://www.hhs.gov/about/news/2019/11/15/trump-administration-announces-historic-price-transparency-and-lower-healthcare-costs-for-all-americans.html

One good thing that Donald Trump is doing that too many people aren't aware of. It should be noted that the Medical lobbies are suing to stop this, whilst making a pitiful argument that people knowing prices before any medical procedures will just confuse patients.

We can't let Joe Biden win this November because he's on the side of the hospitals and medical providers that're ripping people off and that purposely don't want themselves to be subject to market forces. If Biden gets in, it means the price transparency that'll be forced on medical providers will end before it even begins, and they can go back to their previous games of jacking up prices to give private insurers fake discounts that're more accurately just mark downs from margin.

How do we know Trump wouldn't do the same?


Because it's an executive order, ie Trump did it not Congress.

I see no problem with price transparency, though it doesn't mean sick people have any more choice. When they do have a choice (eg between hospitals for a non-urgent treatment) it is a good idea.

Where I differ from Saiwania is the assumption that Biden would reverse the order. I don't see why he would.
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Postby Bear Stearns » Sun Mar 22, 2020 5:42 pm

Fuck...I remember my first job when I was a teenager. I absolutely hated it. My coworkers were terrible. There was this girl who was a total smokeshow (complete 10/10) but she was also the biggest airheaded bimbo I've ever met. Imagine every stereotype of an instathot, and that was her. Next was another girl who was a walking stereotype of a bull-dyke man-hating lesbian who constantly ranted about the patriarchy, but she was actually sort of competent so good for her. And then there was this stoner druggie loser who was useless in every imaginable situation. Guy would be high all the time eating junk food and would constantly flake on his responsibilities. He would also frequently bring his dog to work and it would cause problems for us.

Anyways, I would drive everyone around in my van and we'd go around solving mysteries.
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Postby Zurkerx » Sun Mar 22, 2020 5:47 pm

Biden says he will start vetting process for VP pick 'in a matter of weeks'.

At a minimum, there are 6-7 people he's looking at. He also consulted Obama.
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Postby Cisairse » Sun Mar 22, 2020 5:50 pm

Zurkerx wrote:Biden says he will start vetting process for VP pick 'in a matter of weeks'.

At a minimum, there are 6-7 people he's looking at. He also consulted Obama.


.............................................................................Interesting.
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Postby Farnhamia » Sun Mar 22, 2020 5:50 pm

Zurkerx wrote:Biden says he will start vetting process for VP pick 'in a matter of weeks'.

At a minimum, there are 6-7 people he's looking at. He also consulted Obama.

I remember a SNL opening sketch with Obama in the Oval Office, rolling his eyes at some antics from Biden. He looks at the camera and says, "I couldn't pick Hillary, I just couldn't."

I think it's perhaps a trifle early for him to be doing this, but then again, he's not out campaigning so why not?
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Postby Cisairse » Sun Mar 22, 2020 5:53 pm

Farnhamia wrote:
Zurkerx wrote:Biden says he will start vetting process for VP pick 'in a matter of weeks'.

At a minimum, there are 6-7 people he's looking at. He also consulted Obama.

I remember a SNL opening sketch with Obama in the Oval Office, rolling his eyes at some antics from Biden. He looks at the camera and says, "I couldn't pick Hillary, I just couldn't."

I think it's perhaps a trifle early for him to be doing this, but then again, he's not out campaigning so why not?


He's won the nomination. Why not start now?
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Postby Harkback Union » Sun Mar 22, 2020 6:29 pm

Zurkerx wrote:Biden says he will start vetting process for VP pick 'in a matter of weeks'.

At a minimum, there are 6-7 people he's looking at. He also consulted Obama.


Great.

The more people he meets, better the odds of beating Trump.

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Postby Nobel Hobos 2 » Sun Mar 22, 2020 6:39 pm

Being on the shortlist is flattering, Biden can make some friends that way. But the longer the shortlist the less flattering it is to be included. 6 to 10 seems about right to me.
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Postby Mettaton-EX » Sun Mar 22, 2020 6:42 pm

biden will somehow end up making an even worse pick than i expect probably
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Postby Bear Stearns » Sun Mar 22, 2020 6:45 pm

Perhaps not on topic, but I decided to finally read What Happened by Hillary Clinton - she actually suggests that one of Vladimir Putin's fault is that he manspreads...

Good lord.
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Postby Farnhamia » Sun Mar 22, 2020 6:46 pm

Bear Stearns wrote:Perhaps not on topic, but I decided to finally read What Happened by Hillary Clinton - she actually suggests that one of Vladimir Putin's fault is that he manspreads...

Good lord.

You're right, it's not on topic. I'll just move the post to the dankness of the evidence locker, shall I?
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Postby Cisairse » Sun Mar 22, 2020 6:58 pm

Please make a thread about Putin manspreading

please
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Postby Harkback Union » Sun Mar 22, 2020 7:00 pm

LADIES AND GENTLEMAN

May I present to you, the likely democratic nominee of 2020, Negotiator of the paris climate accords, former vice president of Barack America, running for reelection, Joe Biden's husband,

JOE J.O.B.S. BIDEN!!!

"Poor kids are just as bright and just as talented as white kids!!!"

Joe Biden

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Joe Biden

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Joe Biden

"Look, John (McCain)'s last minute economic plan does nothing to tackle the number one job facing the middle class, as Barack Obama put it, a 3 letter word: jobs. J. O. B. S. Jobs."

Joe Biden

After Quoting Teddy Roosevelt "I promise you, the president (Barack Obama) has a Big Stick!!!."

Joe Biden

"Buy A Shotgun!!!."

Joe Biden

"Vote for somebody else!!!"

Joe Biden

“We hold these truths to be self-evident. All men and women created…by the…go…you know… the thing,”

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Postby Ngelmish » Sun Mar 22, 2020 7:02 pm

Nobel Hobos 2 wrote:Being on the shortlist is flattering, Biden can make some friends that way. But the longer the shortlist the less flattering it is to be included. 6 to 10 seems about right to me.


On the other hand it can lead to awkward snafus like John Kerry being convinced that Gore had chosen him right up until the phone call, and not the wishful thinking type of certainty, he'd been leaked false information. Regardless, hopefully Biden surprises us all, goes against most of what he's said, and actually chooses the best person.

Failing that, of course, I suppose one can hope that it will at least be a good choice.

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Postby Necroghastia » Sun Mar 22, 2020 7:04 pm

Harkback Union wrote:LADIES AND GENTLEMAN

May I present to you, the likely democratic nominee of 2020, Negotiator of the paris climate accords, former vice president of Barack America, running for reelection, Joe Biden's husband,

JOE J.O.B.S. BIDEN!!!

"Poor kids are just as bright and just as talented as white kids!!!"

Joe Biden

"Make sure you have the record player on at night!!!"

Joe Biden

"I was once a democratic caucus."

Joe Biden

"We Choose Truth Over Facts!!!."

Joe Biden

"Look, John (McCain)'s last minute economic plan does nothing to tackle the number one job facing the middle class, as Barack Obama put it, a 3 letter word: jobs. J. O. B. S. Jobs."

Joe Biden

After Quoting Teddy Roosevelt "I promise you, the president (Barack Obama) has a Big Stick!!!."

Joe Biden

"Buy A Shotgun!!!."

Joe Biden

"Vote for somebody else!!!"

Joe Biden

“We hold these truths to be self-evident. All men and women created…by the…go…you know… the thing,”

Joe Biden

Have you ever attended a caucus?" - "Yes" - "No you haven’t! You’re a lying, dog-faced pony soldier.

Joe Biden

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Postby Ifreann » Sun Mar 22, 2020 8:13 pm

Mettaton-EX wrote:biden will somehow end up making an even worse pick than i expect probably

Biden's VP will be Biden in a wig.

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Postby Cisairse » Sun Mar 22, 2020 8:19 pm

Harkback Union wrote:LADIES AND GENTLEMAN

May I present to you, the likely democratic nominee of 2020, Negotiator of the paris climate accords, former vice president of Barack America, running for reelection, Joe Biden's husband,

JOE J.O.B.S. BIDEN!!!

"Poor kids are just as bright and just as talented as white kids!!!"

Joe Biden

"Make sure you have the record player on at night!!!"

Joe Biden

"I was once a democratic caucus."

Joe Biden

"We Choose Truth Over Facts!!!."

Joe Biden

"Look, John (McCain)'s last minute economic plan does nothing to tackle the number one job facing the middle class, as Barack Obama put it, a 3 letter word: jobs. J. O. B. S. Jobs."

Joe Biden

After Quoting Teddy Roosevelt "I promise you, the president (Barack Obama) has a Big Stick!!!."

Joe Biden

"Buy A Shotgun!!!."

Joe Biden

"Vote for somebody else!!!"

Joe Biden

“We hold these truths to be self-evident. All men and women created…by the…go…you know… the thing,”

Joe Biden

Have you ever attended a caucus?" - "Yes" - "No you haven’t! You’re a lying, dog-faced pony soldier.

Joe Biden

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Joe Biden, meme machine.

They said that Trump's election was the culmination of the Great Meme War. Who could possibly face him, except....


...a meme, in the flesh.

He's not the hero we want, or the hero we deserve, or even a hero, but he'll probably beat Trump.
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Postby Lamoni » Sun Mar 22, 2020 8:21 pm

Harkback Union wrote:LADIES AND GENTLEMAN

May I present to you, the likely democratic nominee of 2020, Negotiator of the paris climate accords, former vice president of Barack America, running for reelection, Joe Biden's husband,

JOE J.O.B.S. BIDEN!!!

"Poor kids are just as bright and just as talented as white kids!!!"

Joe Biden

"Make sure you have the record player on at night!!!"

Joe Biden

"I was once a democratic caucus."

Joe Biden

"We Choose Truth Over Facts!!!."

Joe Biden

"Look, John (McCain)'s last minute economic plan does nothing to tackle the number one job facing the middle class, as Barack Obama put it, a 3 letter word: jobs. J. O. B. S. Jobs."

Joe Biden

After Quoting Teddy Roosevelt "I promise you, the president (Barack Obama) has a Big Stick!!!."

Joe Biden

"Buy A Shotgun!!!."

Joe Biden

"Vote for somebody else!!!"

Joe Biden

“We hold these truths to be self-evident. All men and women created…by the…go…you know… the thing,”

Joe Biden

Have you ever attended a caucus?" - "Yes" - "No you haven’t! You’re a lying, dog-faced pony soldier.

Joe Biden

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Postby Nobel Hobos 2 » Sun Mar 22, 2020 8:34 pm

Ngelmish wrote:
Nobel Hobos 2 wrote:Being on the shortlist is flattering, Biden can make some friends that way. But the longer the shortlist the less flattering it is to be included. 6 to 10 seems about right to me.


On the other hand it can lead to awkward snafus like John Kerry being convinced that Gore had chosen him right up until the phone call

That's new to me
, and not the wishful thinking type of certainty, he'd been leaked false information. Regardless, hopefully Biden surprises us all, goes against most of what he's said, and actually chooses the best person.

Failing that, of course, I suppose one can hope that it will at least be a good choice.


When he said the VP would be female I didn't mind, but if it's going to take weeks to pick one I think it wasn't such a good idea.
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Postby Cisairse » Sun Mar 22, 2020 8:36 pm

Nobel Hobos 2 wrote:
Ngelmish wrote:
On the other hand it can lead to awkward snafus like John Kerry being convinced that Gore had chosen him right up until the phone call

That's new to me
, and not the wishful thinking type of certainty, he'd been leaked false information. Regardless, hopefully Biden surprises us all, goes against most of what he's said, and actually chooses the best person.

Failing that, of course, I suppose one can hope that it will at least be a good choice.


When he said the VP would be female I didn't mind, but if it's going to take weeks to pick one I think it wasn't such a good idea.


I would hope that he & his staff would thoroughly vet any potential picks.

If they don't, FOX News and Russia will for them.
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Postby Northern Davincia » Sun Mar 22, 2020 9:03 pm

Cisairse wrote:
Nobel Hobos 2 wrote:That's new to me

When he said the VP would be female I didn't mind, but if it's going to take weeks to pick one I think it wasn't such a good idea.


I would hope that he & his staff would thoroughly vet any potential picks.

If they don't, FOX News and Russia will for them.

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Postby Saiwania » Mon Mar 23, 2020 12:45 am

Blargoblarg wrote:I'm really tired of people and especially the mainstream media assuming that Bernie Sanders' campaign is done when there's still 27 states and territories that haven't held their primaries yet, with 1,660 delegates from those states and territories. It may not be as easy since he's down by about 300 delegates, but Sanders can still win the nomination.


By now anyways, it looks like Bernie Sanders has effectively lost this race. Now he can either stay in until its mathematically impossible for him to reach 1991 delegates, or he could drop out now or at a later date. If he wants to quit sooner, I think it should be at the beginning of April. If he wants to go down fighting, it should be when the delegate numbers show that he's never going to surpass Biden in support.

Now is perhaps the time to figure out why Bernie lost. It certainly wasn't the establishment taking it away from him like last time. This time it seems he really did lose support on his own. It all went downhill as soon as the centrist/moderate wing all switched to backing Biden once the field narrowed enough.

We might have to just conclude that the Democratic party isn't actually all that Liberal as it could be. Bernie Sanders' policies weren't as popular as the Progressive wing believed and his ceiling looks to be 30% maximum.
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Postby Kruiven » Mon Mar 23, 2020 7:08 am

Sanders unsurprisingly dominated the Democrats Abroad Primary. Sanders 57.9%, Biden 22.7%.
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Postby Diopolis » Mon Mar 23, 2020 7:10 am

Kruiven wrote:Sanders unsurprisingly dominated the Democrats Abroad Primary. Sanders 57.9%, Biden 22.7%.

See what happens when it's not rigged?
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