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2020 US General Election Thread V: Pandemic Postpones Polls

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Are You Worried About Covid-19 Cancelling or Postponing Your Election?

Yes
33
24%
No
61
44%
Covid? Just A Chinese-Lizard People-Naked Mole Rat Conspiracy!
8
6%
I, For One, Welcome/Write-In Our New Corona Overlords.
38
27%
 
Total votes : 140

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Postby Stylan » Wed Feb 26, 2020 4:24 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Kruiven wrote:Moderate doesn't equal wouldn't vote for Sanders or Warren though, case in point Nevada.


Certainly. I'm just saying the idea that moderates or centrists don't exist at all is absurd.

"moderate" isnt a really accurate term though because moderate can mean classical liberal or trump-type conservative depending on who you ask
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Postby San Lumen » Wed Feb 26, 2020 4:25 pm

Outer Sparta wrote:
San Lumen wrote:The moderate dems who flipped the house should tell you how

Getting increased voter turnout doesn't equal alienating the suburbs.

And all these people are magically going support free college, taxes going up, and being kicked off their health insurance. Get real

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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Wed Feb 26, 2020 4:26 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Outer Sparta wrote:Getting increased voter turnout doesn't equal alienating the suburbs.

And all these people are magically going support free college, taxes going up, and being kicked off their health insurance. Get real


I certainly have gripes with the idea as laid out by the progressives but more government support for education is hardly a bad thing.
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Postby Outer Sparta » Wed Feb 26, 2020 4:27 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Outer Sparta wrote:Getting increased voter turnout doesn't equal alienating the suburbs.

And all these people are magically going support free college, taxes going up, and being kicked off their health insurance. Get real

Being kicked off their health insurance? Does anyone like having for-profit health insurance?
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Postby San Lumen » Wed Feb 26, 2020 4:27 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
San Lumen wrote:And all these people are magically going support free college, taxes going up, and being kicked off their health insurance. Get real


I certainly have gripes with the idea as laid out by the progressives but more government support for education is hardly a bad thing.

Free college for all is a pipe dream and I wish someone on the stage said to him it’s a lie to get college support

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Postby Outer Sparta » Wed Feb 26, 2020 4:29 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
I certainly have gripes with the idea as laid out by the progressives but more government support for education is hardly a bad thing.

Free college for all is a pipe dream and I wish someone on the stage said to him it’s a lie to get college support

Okay would you rather prefer free college for all or a continuation of the increasing student debt?
In solidarity with Ukraine, I will be censoring the letters Z and V from my signature. This is -ery much so a big change, but it should be a -ery positi-e one. -olodymyr -elensky and A-o- continue to fight for Ukraine while the Russians are still trying to e-entually make their way to Kharki-, -apori-h-hia, and Kry-yi Rih, but that will take time as they are concentrated in areas like Bakhmut, -uledar, and other areas in Donetsk. We will see Shakhtar play in the Europa League but Dynamo Kyi- already got eliminated. Shakhtar managed to play well against Florentino Pere-'s Real Madrid who feature superstars like -inicius, Ben-ema, Car-ajal, and -al-erde. Some prominent Ukrainian players that got big transfers elsewhere include Oleksander -inchenko, Illya -abarnyi, and Mykhailo Mudryk.

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Postby Idzequitch » Wed Feb 26, 2020 4:29 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Kruiven wrote:Moderate doesn't equal wouldn't vote for Sanders or Warren though, case in point Nevada.


Certainly. I'm just saying the idea that moderates or centrists don't exist at all is absurd.

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Postby San Lumen » Wed Feb 26, 2020 4:30 pm

Outer Sparta wrote:
San Lumen wrote:Free college for all is a pipe dream and I wish someone on the stage said to him it’s a lie to get college support

Okay would you rather prefer free college for all or a continuation of the increasing student debt?

Free college for all isn’t going to happen

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Postby Kruiven » Wed Feb 26, 2020 4:30 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
I certainly have gripes with the idea as laid out by the progressives but more government support for education is hardly a bad thing.

Free college for all is a pipe dream and I wish someone on the stage said to him it’s a lie to get college support

Pipe dream? Who let Amy Klobuchar on this forum?
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Postby Idzequitch » Wed Feb 26, 2020 4:30 pm

Outer Sparta wrote:
San Lumen wrote:Free college for all is a pipe dream and I wish someone on the stage said to him it’s a lie to get college support

Okay would you rather prefer free college for all or a continuation of the increasing student debt?

That's a rather extreme false dichotomy.
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Postby San Lumen » Wed Feb 26, 2020 4:30 pm

Kruiven wrote:
San Lumen wrote:Free college for all is a pipe dream and I wish someone on the stage said to him it’s a lie to get college support

Pipe dream? Who let Amy Klobuchar on this forum?

Deny reality all you want it isn’t going to happen

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Postby Jerzylvania » Wed Feb 26, 2020 4:31 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Kruiven wrote:Moderate doesn't equal wouldn't vote for Sanders or Warren though, case in point Nevada.


Certainly. I'm just saying the idea that moderates or centrists don't exist at all is absurd.


Kids these days, huh?
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Postby Kruiven » Wed Feb 26, 2020 4:31 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Kruiven wrote:Pipe dream? Who let Amy Klobuchar on this forum?

Deny reality all you want it isn’t going to happen

This is why Amy has no support under the age of 65.
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Postby Valrifell » Wed Feb 26, 2020 4:31 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Outer Sparta wrote:Okay would you rather prefer free college for all or a continuation of the increasing student debt?

Free college for all isn’t going to happen


Free public universities is a realistic goal.
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Postby Valrifell » Wed Feb 26, 2020 4:32 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Kruiven wrote:Pipe dream? Who let Amy Klobuchar on this forum?

Deny reality all you want it isn’t going to happen


Political reality isn't absolute.
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Postby San Lumen » Wed Feb 26, 2020 4:33 pm

Kruiven wrote:
San Lumen wrote:Deny reality all you want it isn’t going to happen

This is why Amy has no support under the age of 65.

And this is why Sanders won’t win. I wish he wasn’t even allowed to run as he’s not a democrat

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Postby Jerzylvania » Wed Feb 26, 2020 4:34 pm

Valrifell wrote:
San Lumen wrote:Free college for all isn’t going to happen


Free public universities is a realistic goal.


For state universities and junior colleges, yes. For private schools... not happening.
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Postby Outer Sparta » Wed Feb 26, 2020 4:35 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Kruiven wrote:This is why Amy has no support under the age of 65.

And this is why Sanders won’t win. I wish he wasn’t even allowed to run as he’s not a democrat

He's an independent that caucuses with the Democrats. This talking point has been already beaten to a dead horse.

Also beats having a billionaire who often has Republican tendencies and frequently funded GOP campaigns.
In solidarity with Ukraine, I will be censoring the letters Z and V from my signature. This is -ery much so a big change, but it should be a -ery positi-e one. -olodymyr -elensky and A-o- continue to fight for Ukraine while the Russians are still trying to e-entually make their way to Kharki-, -apori-h-hia, and Kry-yi Rih, but that will take time as they are concentrated in areas like Bakhmut, -uledar, and other areas in Donetsk. We will see Shakhtar play in the Europa League but Dynamo Kyi- already got eliminated. Shakhtar managed to play well against Florentino Pere-'s Real Madrid who feature superstars like -inicius, Ben-ema, Car-ajal, and -al-erde. Some prominent Ukrainian players that got big transfers elsewhere include Oleksander -inchenko, Illya -abarnyi, and Mykhailo Mudryk.

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Postby Idzequitch » Wed Feb 26, 2020 4:35 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Kruiven wrote:This is why Amy has no support under the age of 65.

And this is why Sanders won’t win. I wish he wasn’t even allowed to run as he’s not a democrat

For someone who constantly tells others to get up and do something to change the political landscape, you sure talk about wishing for unrealistic things a lot.
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Postby Outer Sparta » Wed Feb 26, 2020 4:36 pm

Jerzylvania wrote:
Valrifell wrote:
Free public universities is a realistic goal.


For state universities and junior colleges, yes. For private schools... not happening.

Private schools are a different story. A good starting point would be making community college tuition-free.
In solidarity with Ukraine, I will be censoring the letters Z and V from my signature. This is -ery much so a big change, but it should be a -ery positi-e one. -olodymyr -elensky and A-o- continue to fight for Ukraine while the Russians are still trying to e-entually make their way to Kharki-, -apori-h-hia, and Kry-yi Rih, but that will take time as they are concentrated in areas like Bakhmut, -uledar, and other areas in Donetsk. We will see Shakhtar play in the Europa League but Dynamo Kyi- already got eliminated. Shakhtar managed to play well against Florentino Pere-'s Real Madrid who feature superstars like -inicius, Ben-ema, Car-ajal, and -al-erde. Some prominent Ukrainian players that got big transfers elsewhere include Oleksander -inchenko, Illya -abarnyi, and Mykhailo Mudryk.

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Postby Jerzylvania » Wed Feb 26, 2020 4:36 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Kruiven wrote:This is why Amy has no support under the age of 65.

And this is why Sanders won’t win. I wish he wasn’t even allowed to run as he’s not a democrat


Let's not get too carried away here. Bernie has a chance. However it will be like threading a needle. And Trump managed to thread the needle in 2016.
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Postby Valrifell » Wed Feb 26, 2020 4:36 pm

Jerzylvania wrote:
Valrifell wrote:
Free public universities is a realistic goal.


For state universities and junior colleges, yes. For private schools... not happening.


I don't think anyone except the uninformed expected a completely nationalized higher education.

I'm not quite sure about the exacts of Sanders' plan but I'm fairly certain he just means free public unis and leaves the private schools alone.
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Postby Jerzylvania » Wed Feb 26, 2020 4:37 pm

Outer Sparta wrote:
Jerzylvania wrote:
For state universities and junior colleges, yes. For private schools... not happening.

Private schools are a different story. A good starting point would be making community college tuition-free.

That is sound thinking. :)
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Postby San Lumen » Wed Feb 26, 2020 4:38 pm

Jerzylvania wrote:
San Lumen wrote:And this is why Sanders won’t win. I wish he wasn’t even allowed to run as he’s not a democrat


Let's not get too carried away here. Bernie has a chance. However it will be like threading a needle. And Trump managed to thread the needle in 2016.

I’d rather not take such a risk.

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Postby Jerzylvania » Wed Feb 26, 2020 4:38 pm

Valrifell wrote:
Jerzylvania wrote:
For state universities and junior colleges, yes. For private schools... not happening.


I don't think anyone except the uninformed expected a completely nationalized higher education.

I'm not quite sure about the exacts of Sanders' plan but I'm fairly certain he just means free public unis and leaves the private schools alone.


He needs to clarify this soon. He's leaving himself open to attack by being so vague.
Donald Trump has no clue as to what "insuring the domestic tranquility" means

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