2020 US General Election Thread V: Pandemic Postpones Polls

[Valrifell]

A lot of Americans don't understand the difference between a social Democrat and a communist and part of the problem is we have one of the worst education systems in the West

Actually, it's my Ivy league education that informed me that the difference between socialism and communism is one of technicalities, and distinguishing between the two is the true act of willful ignorance.

You got a degree in theology, my dude, that doesn't qualify you to be a credible source in make sweeping generalizations on political ideology. The fact the significant literature exists on the distinction between the two ideologies makes me think you might be a little out of field here.

[South Odreria 2]

Marx used socialism and communism interchangeably.
At the same time, lots of European parties describe themselves as socialist and are anything but, so maybe we should ignore the labels and go by the policies.

[Necroghastia]

Ah so you intend to rip up the 1st Amendment?

Being protected by the constitution doesn't make them any less traitors, it just makes them protected. How great is the US Constitution in that it protects those who would happily run it through the paper shredder.

I'm sure you can explain in detail why you believe Sanders would do that.

[Tarsonis]

Being protected by the constitution doesn't make them any less traitors, it just makes them protected. How great is the US Constitution in that it protects those who would happily run it through the paper shredder.

I'm sure you can explain in detail why you believe Sanders would do that.

Would? He already has.

[Tarsonis]

Actually, it's my Ivy league education that informed me that the difference between socialism and communism is one of technicalities, and distinguishing between the two is the true act of willful ignorance.

You got a degree in theology, my dude, that doesn't qualify you to be a credible source in make sweeping generalizations on political ideology. The fact the significant literature exists on the distinction between the two ideologies makes me think you might be a little out of field here.

The funny thing about theology is that it is fully ingrained in social zeitgeist. Thus being a theologian means wearing many hats.

[Neanderthaland]

You got a degree in theology, my dude, that doesn't qualify you to be a credible source in make sweeping generalizations on political ideology. The fact the significant literature exists on the distinction between the two ideologies makes me think you might be a little out of field here.

The funny thing about theology is that it is fully ingrained in social zeitgeist. Thus being a theologian means wearing many hats.

The main thing about theology is talking at great length about subjects you know nothing about. And that seems to be the case here.

[Neu California]

I'm sure you can explain in detail why you believe Sanders would do that.

Would? He already has.

When and how? Cite sources

[Kruiven]

Another day another batch of polls showing Sanders is in better standing to retake the blue wall than Biden. Nothing new.

[Kruiven]

Bernie isn't a communist, though...

A lot of Americans don't understand the difference between a social Democrat and a communist and part of the problem is we have one of the worst education systems in the West

It's almost like we spend way too much on the military and not enough on other things.

[Zurkerx]

Another day another batch of polls showing Sanders is in better standing to retake the blue wall than Biden. Nothing new.

If it's polls done in PA, MI, and WI for what 538 added today, then I hate to say it but, those polls were done between February 6th to the 18th: they're at least two weeks old, and things have quite changed since then. I would like to see some new polls showing relevant data, but we won't get that until at least tomorrow, likely Monday.

[Gormwood]

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2020/03/07/2020-dementia-campaign-123106

It's not just fox news picking this up now....

Are you sure about this?

I'd grant the possibility it's untrue but i don't trust the media(Even non-fox) to treat it like that

With Trump it's more likely to be projection.

[Gormwood]

Neither Biden or Trump or Sanders has dementia: we would have seen signs by now. Since this is more directed at Biden, it's more on how he has aged in my opinion.

Indeed, Trump has late stage herpes not dementia.

EDIT: Syphilis, not herpes.. apparently.

Syphilis can lead to mental damage. That's how Capone went out.

[Genivaria]

I'm sure you can explain in detail why you believe Sanders would do that.

Would? He already has.

Does the tinfoil scratch your scalp at all? I'd think it would be uncomfortable.

[Shofercia]

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2020/03/07/2020-dementia-campaign-123106

It's not just fox news picking this up now....

Are you sure about this?

I'd grant the possibility it's untrue but i don't trust the media(Even non-fox) to treat it like that

"Your candidate has dementia!"
"No, your candidate has dementia!"
"No, U!"

American Presidential Elections, the ones where the press is so poisonous, that most decent people don't want to run. To quote Jon Stewart: "America separates the able from the willing... and goes with the willing!"

[Nakena]

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2020/03/07/2020-dementia-campaign-123106

It's not just fox news picking this up now....

Are you sure about this?

I'd grant the possibility it's untrue but i don't trust the media(Even non-fox) to treat it like that

"Your candidate has dementia!"
"No, your candidate has dementia!"
"No, U!"

American Presidential Elections, the ones where the press is so poisonous, that most decent people don't want to run. To quote Jon Stewart: "America separates the able from the willing... and goes with the willing!"

Tulsi is still in the race. Theoretically.

Gabbard I don't trust: she seems like an opportunist to me. Sure, I'm sure she believes in what she believes, but she doesn't seem likable.

Thats because shes a unwitting vessel for higher and far more dark purposes.

Shes is crypto-fascist and secret Savitri Devi tier adept of esoteric National Socialism. Sliding her into the White House on a Democratic VP ticket has been the Plan B in case Donald Trump would fail. Which he did.

It's all part of the super sekrit master plan to bring upon the end of the Kali Yuga.

[United States of Devonta]

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2020/03/07/2020-dementia-campaign-123106

It's not just fox news picking this up now....

Are you sure about this?

I'd grant the possibility it's untrue but i don't trust the media(Even non-fox) to treat it like that

Neither Biden or Trump or Sanders has dementia: we would have seen signs by now. Since this is more directed at Biden, it's more on how he has aged in my opinion.

Honestly, idk.

Biden only spoke for 7 minutes today at his rally in Missouri. If he wins, I'm scared. He hasen't really campaigned in allot of states, it's a very lazy campaign. He hasen't had allot of rallies or anything. Its just a bad campaign, but I think its on purpose. He's a gaffe machine and his staffers know that.

We need a campaigner during the election tho, who can go everywhere and work their ass off.

[Nakena]

Neither Biden or Trump or Sanders has dementia: we would have seen signs by now. Since this is more directed at Biden, it's more on how he has aged in my opinion.

Honestly, idk.

Biden only spoke for 7 minutes today at his rally in Missouri. If he wins, I'm scared. He hasen't really campaigned in allot of states, it's a very lazy campaign. He hasen't had allot of rallies or anything. Its just a bad campaign, but I think its on purpose. He's a gaffe machine and his staffers know that.

We need a campaigner during the election tho, who can go everywhere and work their ass off.

Trump won 2016 with a trash campaign. Bloomberg didn win anything despite he blasted hundreds of millions.

[Kruiven]

Neither Biden or Trump or Sanders has dementia: we would have seen signs by now. Since this is more directed at Biden, it's more on how he has aged in my opinion.

Honestly, idk.

Biden only spoke for 7 minutes today at his rally in Missouri. If he wins, I'm scared. He hasen't really campaigned in allot of states, it's a very lazy campaign. He hasen't had allot of rallies or anything. Its just a bad campaign, but I think its on purpose. He's a gaffe machine and his staffers know that.

We need a campaigner during the election tho, who can go everywhere and work their ass off.

Yup. Biden's staff hides him from doing interviews or speaking too long and it's pretty clear why. Even during that seven minute speech today he made multiple mistakes including leaking that Kamala is going to endorse him. The bars for Biden and Trump are set so low it's truly amazing.

[United States of Devonta]

Honestly, idk.

Biden only spoke for 7 minutes today at his rally in Missouri. If he wins, I'm scared. He hasen't really campaigned in allot of states, it's a very lazy campaign. He hasen't had allot of rallies or anything. Its just a bad campaign, but I think its on purpose. He's a gaffe machine and his staffers know that.

We need a campaigner during the election tho, who can go everywhere and work their ass off.

Trump won 2016 with a trash campaign. Bloomberg didn win anything despite he blasted hundreds of millions.

Trump actually went around the campaign trail and held rallies like a normal candidate. He was still a busy man. Biden doesen't even do that... For example, he didn't go to any ST states. But TX and VA. In a 4 day period. Bernie went to almost all. Trump is going to out work him.

[True Refuge]

Honestly, idk.

Biden only spoke for 7 minutes today at his rally in Missouri. If he wins, I'm scared. He hasen't really campaigned in allot of states, it's a very lazy campaign. He hasen't had allot of rallies or anything. Its just a bad campaign, but I think its on purpose. He's a gaffe machine and his staffers know that.

We need a campaigner during the election tho, who can go everywhere and work their ass off.

Trump won 2016 with a trash campaign. Bloomberg didn win anything despite he blasted hundreds of millions.

He'll likely win 2020 with an even trashier one. The downward spiral continues.

[Nobel Hobos 2]

Trump won 2016 with a trash campaign. Bloomberg didn win anything despite he blasted hundreds of millions.

He'll likely win 2020 with an even trashier one. The downward spiral continues.

To me, the difference between two bad nominees will come down to the economy. Does it or does it not crash.

That the immediate cause of a crash might be a disease outbreak does not make the crash itself a natural disaster. People are accustomed to the idea that the economy is beyond human understanding (and the prognostications of economists, right no more than half the time, do not dispel this idea). Causes matter less than they do with response to natural disasters, rightness or wrongness of wars, closedness or openness of borders, any issue besides the economy. A good economy gets you re-elected, a bad one can lose re-election.

Though I also believe in the pendulum. Nate Silver doesn't, so I've been cautious to mention it, but I think at this time with Democrats getting their hopes up, it's important to bear in mind that Presidents after one term almost never lose their re-election. When they do it's an extraordinary circumstance like Carter being too left for a quite leftist Democratic Congress, or GHW Bush having already beaten the pendulum the other way (and Ross Perot). Simply having a bad President (and bear in mind that history finds Carter not so bad), or a good challenger, is not enough for the challenger to beat the pendulum. It's no better or worse with a terrible President and mediocre challenger. Incumbent advantage, in the term limited Presidency, is a hell of a thing.

A really bad recession, begun already, would probably be enough to see Generic President out of office. Why? Timing mostly, plus it's been an unusually long time since a technical recession, and the last one which was terrible has created fear and trauma which would be relived. Double that up with Trump being historically unpopular, worse in most ways than Generic President, and there could be a change of office against the pendulum. No recession though? Four more years of Trump.

[Duvniask]

So for anyone that doesn't know, it appears Dallas County somehow forgot to count ballots from 44 precincts (~10% of all precincts in Texas) on Super Tuesday. I'm kind of at a loss for how something like that even happens.

[Nobel Hobos 2]

So for anyone that doesn't know, it appears Dallas County somehow forgot to count ballots from 44 precincts (~10% of all precincts in Texas) on Super Tuesday. I'm kind of at a loss for how something like that even happens.

It seems to be 10% of the votes cast in Dallas county but still.
It's pretty worrying that all the votes could bottleneck through such a fallible (ie losable) medium as USB drives.

[Nobel Hobos 2]

Actually maybe it's not so silly. Dallas county could be air-gapping the computers they use to tally votes.

[The World Capitalist Confederation]

Imagine if it comes out that most of the peeps on the 44 thumb drive were Sanders/Warren voters.The DNC and Biden will be some hot shit.