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Are You Worried About Covid-19 Cancelling or Postponing Your Election?

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Covid? Just A Chinese-Lizard People-Naked Mole Rat Conspiracy!
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I, For One, Welcome/Write-In Our New Corona Overlords.
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Postby Thermodolia » Sun Mar 01, 2020 10:13 am

Torrexion-Thysk wrote:I’m all for Buttegieg, for he’s got a reasonable and not polarizing plan. I really like his policies, too. I am angry about Sanders, though. He has no chance of beating Trump, but people think he can. He doesn’t even have a clear plan for his healthcare. And anyways, he may die in office. He hasn’t released his medical records. :evil:

Trump also could die in office
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Postby Bienenhalde » Sun Mar 01, 2020 10:21 am

Tarsonis wrote:Alright folks, who should I vote for on Tuesday?


Depending on who has the chance of beating Sanders in your state, either Biden, Buttigieg, or Klobuchar.

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Postby The Black Forrest » Sun Mar 01, 2020 10:23 am

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Well? Bloomberg said he was going to continue attacking Trump no matter who is selected. He will become a pain and force the trumpests to spend money on ads to argue Bloomberg.

He's wasting his money. Trump thrives off negative publicity.


Possibly. Bloomberg made the attacks more personal then the repubs tried. Insult but be a gentlemen? The trump people did respond back so it’s not simply being ignored.

I suspect as the elections get closer; the ads will get more personal and more vicious.
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Postby Gormwood » Sun Mar 01, 2020 10:23 am

Thermodolia wrote:
Torrexion-Thysk wrote:I’m all for Buttegieg, for he’s got a reasonable and not polarizing plan. I really like his policies, too. I am angry about Sanders, though. He has no chance of beating Trump, but people think he can. He doesn’t even have a clear plan for his healthcare. And anyways, he may die in office. He hasn’t released his medical records. :evil:

Trump also could die in office

Given how he's been cheating others his whole life I would not be surprised if Trump is even cheating Death despite his KFC hamberder laden diet.
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Postby United States of Devonta » Sun Mar 01, 2020 10:53 am

YouGovUS/CBSNewsPoll

California:

Sanders 31%
Biden 19%
Warren 18%
Bloomberg 12%
Buttigieg 9%
Klobuchar 4%

Texas:

Sanders 30%
Biden 26%
Warren 17%
Bloomberg 13%
Klobuchar/Buttigieg 6%

(Poll Conducted Feb 27-29)

YouGov has been pretty heavy on Warren this cycle, that could explain her high numbers.

Positive view on:

Texas:

Socialism 56 (+19)
Capitalism 37

California:

Socialism 57 (+12)
Capitalism 45

(CBS News/YouGov poll of Dem voters)

That's good for Sanders if true ^^
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Postby Corrian » Sun Mar 01, 2020 11:13 am

I like the look of Bloomberg not even being in the delegate count in two of the biggest states. Though I liked the poll that had Sanders as the only one qualifying for delegates in California. That would be insane and propel him way back into the lead if he won literally all the delegates, but nonetheless he has a wide lead in a big state.
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Postby United States of Devonta » Sun Mar 01, 2020 11:14 am

Corrian wrote:I like the look of Bloomberg not even being in the delegate count in two of the biggest states. Though I liked the poll that had Sanders as the only one qualifying for delegates in California. That would be insane and propel him way back into the lead if he won literally all the delegates, but nonetheless he has a wide lead in a big state.


Retired Sen. Barbra Boxer (D-CA) just endorsed Biden. The establishment is unifying behind Biden and all the Washington politicians that come with it.
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Postby Corrian » Sun Mar 01, 2020 11:16 am

United States of Devonta wrote:
Corrian wrote:I like the look of Bloomberg not even being in the delegate count in two of the biggest states. Though I liked the poll that had Sanders as the only one qualifying for delegates in California. That would be insane and propel him way back into the lead if he won literally all the delegates, but nonetheless he has a wide lead in a big state.


Retired Sen. Barbra Boxer (D-CA) just endorsed Biden. The establishment is unifying behind Biden and all the Washington politicians that come with it.

Of course they are. The establishment will establishment
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Postby Kowani » Sun Mar 01, 2020 11:17 am

Corrian wrote:
United States of Devonta wrote:
Retired Sen. Barbra Boxer (D-CA) just endorsed Biden. The establishment is unifying behind Biden and all the Washington politicians that come with it.

Of course they are. The establishment will establishment

Did anyone expect differently?
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Postby United States of Devonta » Sun Mar 01, 2020 11:19 am

Kowani wrote:
Corrian wrote:Of course they are. The establishment will establishment

Did anyone expect differently?


Debbie Wassermann-Schultz (D-FL) and disgraced DNC chair endorsed him too.
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Postby Kowani » Sun Mar 01, 2020 11:21 am

United States of Devonta wrote:
Kowani wrote:Did anyone expect differently?


Debbie Wassermann-Schultz (D-FL) and disgraced DNC chair endorsed him too.

Congresspeople from the South endorsing Biden? What a surprise.
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Postby Jerzylvania » Sun Mar 01, 2020 11:26 am

Corrian wrote:I like the look of Bloomberg not even being in the delegate count in two of the biggest states. Though I liked the poll that had Sanders as the only one qualifying for delegates in California. That would be insane and propel him way back into the lead if he won literally all the delegates, but nonetheless he has a wide lead in a big state.

It makes Bloomberg more likely to get out after Tuesday. Sanders isn't going to win all the delegates in CA but he will win the most.
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Postby United States of Devonta » Sun Mar 01, 2020 11:27 am

Jerzylvania wrote:
Corrian wrote:I like the look of Bloomberg not even being in the delegate count in two of the biggest states. Though I liked the poll that had Sanders as the only one qualifying for delegates in California. That would be insane and propel him way back into the lead if he won literally all the delegates, but nonetheless he has a wide lead in a big state.

It makes Bloomberg more likely to get out after Tuesday. Sanders isn't going to win all the delegates in CA but he will win the most.


Bloomberg's staff said they are already investing in March 10 primary races
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Postby Jerzylvania » Sun Mar 01, 2020 11:29 am

United States of Devonta wrote:
Jerzylvania wrote:It makes Bloomberg more likely to get out after Tuesday. Sanders isn't going to win all the delegates in CA but he will win the most.


Bloomberg's staff said they are already investing in March 10 primary races


lmao, staff will say what's expedient in the moment. No guarantees in this game, son.


Corrian wrote:
United States of Devonta wrote:
Retired Sen. Barbra Boxer (D-CA) just endorsed Biden. The establishment is unifying behind Biden and all the Washington politicians that come with it.

Of course they are. The establishment will establishment


It's how a political party always works. Sheeesh!
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Postby Greed and Death » Sun Mar 01, 2020 11:35 am

United States of Devonta wrote:
Corrian wrote:I like the look of Bloomberg not even being in the delegate count in two of the biggest states. Though I liked the poll that had Sanders as the only one qualifying for delegates in California. That would be insane and propel him way back into the lead if he won literally all the delegates, but nonetheless he has a wide lead in a big state.


Retired Sen. Barbra Boxer (D-CA) just endorsed Biden. The establishment is unifying behind Biden and all the Washington politicians that come with it.


California polling now predicts a Biden win by 10 points.
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Postby United States of Devonta » Sun Mar 01, 2020 11:41 am

Greed and Death wrote:
United States of Devonta wrote:
Retired Sen. Barbra Boxer (D-CA) just endorsed Biden. The establishment is unifying behind Biden and all the Washington politicians that come with it.


California polling now predicts a Biden win by 10 points.


Don't jinx us, please.
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Postby Jerzylvania » Sun Mar 01, 2020 11:42 am

Greed and Death wrote:
United States of Devonta wrote:
Retired Sen. Barbra Boxer (D-CA) just endorsed Biden. The establishment is unifying behind Biden and all the Washington politicians that come with it.


California polling now predicts a Biden win by 10 points.


I'd like to see that poll.
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Postby Greed and Death » Sun Mar 01, 2020 11:44 am

United States of Devonta wrote:
Greed and Death wrote:
California polling now predicts a Biden win by 10 points.


Don't jinx us, please.


You knew this was inevitable, this contest is and always was a foregone conclusion. No one will listen nor remember this or you or the sacrifices you made.
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Postby United States of Devonta » Sun Mar 01, 2020 11:50 am

FEC deadline ended yesterday.

Bernie Sanders announced he raised $46.5 million from more than 2.2 million donations in February. 350,000 of those who gave money to the campaign this month are first-time donors. And 4.5 million just yesterday. Avg. donation this month: $21.

This is a record for his campaign, which has already more individual contributions then his whole Bernie 2016 campaign combined. 8.7 million since Feb. 2019.

Also, Bernie announced new ad buys in 9 states past Super Tuesday.
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Postby Ifreann » Sun Mar 01, 2020 12:32 pm

Jerzylvania wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Trump doesn’t fear Biden at all. Besides most people think that Biden can’t win against Trump. Sanders actually holds that.

Maybe people think that in GA, but not in most states. Sorry!

And if you believe CPAC's bullshit you are seriously deluded.

CPAC attendees are conspiring to trick Democrats into supporting Sanders.


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Torrexion-Thysk wrote:I’m all for Buttegieg, for he’s got a reasonable and not polarizing plan. I really like his policies, too. I am angry about Sanders, though. He has no chance of beating Trump, but people think he can. He doesn’t even have a clear plan for his healthcare. And anyways, he may die in office. He hasn’t released his medical records. :evil:

Trump also could die in office

It's a little surprising he's still alive. All that golfing must do wonders for his stress.
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Postby Corrian » Sun Mar 01, 2020 12:43 pm

538 has No Majority substantially in the lead now. Basically anyone not Trump or Sanders has less than a 1 in 100 chance of winning.
Edit: Er I mean Biden or Sanders
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Postby Hakons » Sun Mar 01, 2020 12:47 pm

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Tarsonis wrote:Alright folks, who should I vote for on Tuesday?


Depending on who has the chance of beating Sanders in your state, either Biden, Buttigieg, or Klobuchar.


If you want a moderate, Biden seems to be the only choice going forward. Because of proportional representation, voting Biden even when he won't win in your state still helps him get more delegates.

Buttigieg and Klobuchar don't have much national support. Bloomberg is a Sanders foil, an ex-Republican, and would lose 1-on-1. The only moderate with national support, the only moderate that could take in most of Bloomgerg's, Steyer's, Klobuchar's, and Buttigieg's support is Biden. This is how I see it. Moderates and liberals should rally around Biden as soon as possible, unless they want socialism on their ticket.
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Postby Shrillland » Sun Mar 01, 2020 12:53 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Zurkerx wrote:
Oh, delegates? It's tough to say: the first round they'll have to vote for Buttigieg. The second round, however, they're free to go to whoever they want so it's going to depend on the individual delegate that gets selected to be at the DNC. That is something I can't even predict.

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But according to Shrill they go to the front runner if Pete drops out before the convention.


I was wrong about that. My apologies: https://ballotpedia.org/Democratic_delegate_rules,_2020
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Postby LimaUniformNovemberAlpha » Sun Mar 01, 2020 12:58 pm

Hakons wrote:
Bienenhalde wrote:
Depending on who has the chance of beating Sanders in your state, either Biden, Buttigieg, or Klobuchar.


If you want a moderate, Biden seems to be the only choice going forward. Because of proportional representation, voting Biden even when he won't win in your state still helps him get more delegates.

Buttigieg and Klobuchar don't have much national support. Bloomberg is a Sanders foil, an ex-Republican, and would lose 1-on-1. The only moderate with national support, the only moderate that could take in most of Bloomgerg's, Steyer's, Klobuchar's, and Buttigieg's support is Biden. This is how I see it. Moderates and liberals should rally around Biden as soon as possible, unless they want socialism on their ticket.

After capitalism gave us Trump, why wouldn't they want socialism on their ticket?
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Postby Zurkerx » Sun Mar 01, 2020 1:10 pm

Corrian wrote:I like the look of Bloomberg not even being in the delegate count in two of the biggest states. Though I liked the poll that had Sanders as the only one qualifying for delegates in California. That would be insane and propel him way back into the lead if he won literally all the delegates, but nonetheless he has a wide lead in a big state.


I originally thought it was a total of 15% of the vote, but it's not: it's 15% of each area that has a certain amount of Delegates it seems.
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