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Re: 5 million dollars to change religion

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What do you choose?

1. No, my religious status is not for sale
116
63%
2. No, it's unethical to gamble with my family's entire fortune
13
7%
3. I would like to do it but I say No because I don't think it's possible to do one or more of terms 1-5 (ex Belief is not choice)
24
13%
4. Yes, and it sounds easy
21
11%
5. Yes, even though 1-5 is going to take some serious work
10
5%
 
Total votes : 184

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Red Millennium
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Postby Red Millennium » Mon Feb 24, 2020 5:16 am

5 million dollars isn't enough, give me 5 billion dollars
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The New California Republic
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Postby The New California Republic » Mon Feb 24, 2020 5:25 am

Infected Mushroom wrote:This has been added as a clarification:

For the purposes of the hypothetical, assume the 5 million dollars is exempt from the laws of taxation and 100% legal (you can keep all of it).

If it's exempt from tax then that makes it much easier for me to launder it so that I can disappear and not bother honouring the deal.
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Drongonia
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Postby Drongonia » Mon Feb 24, 2020 5:26 am

My religious status is not for sale, so help me Violet I will not give it up.

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The New California Republic
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Postby The New California Republic » Mon Feb 24, 2020 5:30 am

Drongonia wrote:My religious status is not for sale, so help me Violet I will not give it up.

But again you don't need to. Launder the cash and disappear so they can't take it away from you, as the cash only gets taken away if you renege on the deal, but how can they take it away if both you and the cash have disappeared? ;)
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White-collared conservatives flashing down the street
Pointing their plastic finger at me
They're hoping soon, my kind will drop and die
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Postby Ifreann » Mon Feb 24, 2020 5:42 am

Infected Mushroom wrote:
Geneviev wrote:It takes a bit more effort than that. I don't know if people would do it for money, because it is hard.


Indeed, it would be a very very high effort endeavour

Pfft, no it wouldn't.

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Postby Ethel mermania » Mon Feb 24, 2020 5:51 am

The New California Republic wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:This has been added as a clarification:


If it's exempt from tax then that makes it much easier for me to launder it so that I can disappear and not bother honouring the deal.

Oh you, assume jesus hisownself, is the muscle.
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The New California Republic
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Postby The New California Republic » Mon Feb 24, 2020 5:59 am

Ethel mermania wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:If it's exempt from tax then that makes it much easier for me to launder it so that I can disappear and not bother honouring the deal.

Oh you, assume jesus hisownself, is the muscle.

I'd like to see Jesus the Carpenter Accountant trace the money after it has been funneled around the world several times under different names. He can walk on water, let's see him try to take a stroll along the path of global shadow finance. ;)
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The Irradiated Wasteland of The New California Republic: depicting the expanded NCR, several years after the total victory over Caesar's Legion, and the annexation of New Vegas and its surrounding areas.

White-collared conservatives flashing down the street
Pointing their plastic finger at me
They're hoping soon, my kind will drop and die
But I'm going to wave my freak flag high
Wave on, wave on
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Postby Mercatus » Mon Feb 24, 2020 6:11 am

My belief in the Good Lord Jesus and his teachings is not for sale, I'm afraid.
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Postby Ethel mermania » Mon Feb 24, 2020 6:12 am

The New California Republic wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:Oh you, assume jesus hisownself, is the muscle.

I'd like to see Jesus the Carpenter Accountant trace the money after it has been funneled around the world several times under different names. He can walk on water, let's see him try to take a stroll along the path of global shadow finance. ;)


The muscle, not the brains. Santa is the accountant.

I must say the internet disappoints. A google search for images of jesus as mafia hit man brings up NOTHING. Sad sad day.
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The most fundamental problem of politics is not the control of wickedness but the limitation of righteousness. 



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Postby Mirial Magna » Mon Feb 24, 2020 6:14 am

It's gonna take more than 5 million dollars to convince me to forfeit the eternal treasure of heaven.
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Postby The New California Republic » Mon Feb 24, 2020 6:14 am

Ethel mermania wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:I'd like to see Jesus the Carpenter Accountant trace the money after it has been funneled around the world several times under different names. He can walk on water, let's see him try to take a stroll along the path of global shadow finance. ;)


The muscle, not the brains.

A dumbdumb then, so it'll be even easier to pull the wool over his eyes. :)
Last edited by Sigmund Freud on Sat Sep 23, 1939 2:23 am, edited 999 times in total.

The Irradiated Wasteland of The New California Republic: depicting the expanded NCR, several years after the total victory over Caesar's Legion, and the annexation of New Vegas and its surrounding areas.

White-collared conservatives flashing down the street
Pointing their plastic finger at me
They're hoping soon, my kind will drop and die
But I'm going to wave my freak flag high
Wave on, wave on
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Postby Ethel mermania » Mon Feb 24, 2020 6:21 am

The New California Republic wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:
The muscle, not the brains.

A dumbdumb then, so it'll be even easier to pull the wool over his eyes. :)

Santa is the forensic accountant, he has those slave elves determining who is naughty and nice.
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Postby Kannap » Mon Feb 24, 2020 6:48 am

Heloin wrote:You don't seem to understand how religion works IM.


It's just a switch that you can turn at the slightest whim right?
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Postby Matthias Schalk » Mon Feb 24, 2020 6:48 am

$5 million to change my imaginary friend(s)? Haha
Sounds easy.

It's like watching Batman or Teenage Ninja Turtles.

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Postby Kannap » Mon Feb 24, 2020 6:54 am

The New California Republic wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:This has been added as a clarification:


If it's exempt from tax then that makes it much easier for me to launder it so that I can disappear and not bother honouring the deal.


Just throw the money in the washing machine and be done, simple.
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Postby Thermodolia » Mon Feb 24, 2020 6:56 am

Kannap wrote:
Heloin wrote:You don't seem to understand how religion works IM.


It's just a switch that you can turn at the slightest whim right?

Yup it’s right next to the switch that makes you gay
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Postby Hanafuridake » Mon Feb 24, 2020 7:00 am

Infected Mushroom wrote:
Hanafuridake wrote:So I just have to pretend to be Sunni and I'll get five million dollars?

I'm sure Buddha will forgive me.


You can switch back in 10 years

Can you do it?


Probably not, since I'm currently in college pursuing a religious vocation (Shingon priesthood).

There's no actual way to explain that.
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Postby Kannap » Mon Feb 24, 2020 7:11 am

Thermodolia wrote:
Kannap wrote:
It's just a switch that you can turn at the slightest whim right?

Yup it’s right next to the switch that makes you gay


Not to mention the whole "you can change back in 10 years" concept invalids the entire experiment and should forfeit your $5 million. If you switched back to your original beliefs and religion, it would be easy proof you never believed the 10 year lie for the 5 million dollars.
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Postby Kannap » Mon Feb 24, 2020 7:12 am

Thermodolia wrote:
Kannap wrote:
It's just a switch that you can turn at the slightest whim right?

Yup it’s right next to the switch that makes you gay


Yeah that's about what this hypothetical comes out to be. "Gay guys: Would you be straight for ten years to earn $5 million?" "Straight guys: Would you be gay for ten years to earn $5 million?"
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Postby Ethel mermania » Mon Feb 24, 2020 7:17 am

Kannap wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Yup it’s right next to the switch that makes you gay


Yeah that's about what this hypothetical comes out to be. "Gay guys: Would you be straight for ten years to earn $5 million?" "Straight guys: Would you be gay for ten years to earn $5 million?"


Maybe, but that said I am sure there are some folks who could pull that off.
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Postby Ifreann » Mon Feb 24, 2020 7:27 am

Kannap wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Yup it’s right next to the switch that makes you gay


Yeah that's about what this hypothetical comes out to be. "Gay guys: Would you be straight for ten years to earn $5 million?" "Straight guys: Would you be gay for ten years to earn $5 million?"

*bi people stare angrily*

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Postby Thermodolia » Mon Feb 24, 2020 7:28 am

Ifreann wrote:
Kannap wrote:
Yeah that's about what this hypothetical comes out to be. "Gay guys: Would you be straight for ten years to earn $5 million?" "Straight guys: Would you be gay for ten years to earn $5 million?"

*bi people stare angrily*

What about Gay for Pay?
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Postby Mirial Magna » Mon Feb 24, 2020 7:36 am

Wait, so does this mean I could do something as simple as going from a Calvinist to a Catholic church on Sundays?

Still no. Such decisions have to be genuine.
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Postby Infected Mushroom » Mon Feb 24, 2020 7:37 am

Kannap wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Yup it’s right next to the switch that makes you gay


Yeah that's about what this hypothetical comes out to be. "Gay guys: Would you be straight for ten years to earn $5 million?" "Straight guys: Would you be gay for ten years to earn $5 million?"


I considered making that.

However, in the end, I decided that this thread would generate a better discussion about the nature of faith.

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Postby The New California Republic » Mon Feb 24, 2020 7:39 am

Ethel mermania wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:A dumbdumb then, so it'll be even easier to pull the wool over his eyes. :)

Santa is the forensic accountant, he has those slave elves determining who is naughty and nice.

I think I could outwit the old man.
Last edited by Sigmund Freud on Sat Sep 23, 1939 2:23 am, edited 999 times in total.

The Irradiated Wasteland of The New California Republic: depicting the expanded NCR, several years after the total victory over Caesar's Legion, and the annexation of New Vegas and its surrounding areas.

White-collared conservatives flashing down the street
Pointing their plastic finger at me
They're hoping soon, my kind will drop and die
But I'm going to wave my freak flag high
Wave on, wave on
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