Uprising Meme called “Boogaloo” starting to hit mainstream

[Bear Stearns]

You'd think so, but actually the

is just a bunch of people getting their panties twisted into knots.


What's more worrying is the apparent mass of people who stubbornly refuse to even entertain the possibility that extreme beliefs might be expressed and normalised through jokes and irony. What is so hard to understand about someone saying something terrible, and really meaning it, but phrasing it as a joke?

The woke scolds have no credibility because people like you have seemed everything a closet racist plot. You cried wolf. Oops :^)

I'm old enough to remember the "George Bush = Hitler" cries. I no longer care.

[The East Marches II]

The woke scolds have no credibility because people like you have seemed everything a closet racist plot. You cried wolf. Oops :^)

I'm old enough to remember the "George Bush = Hitler" cries. I no longer care.

Now he has suddenly be rehabilitated as an American hero. These people have no shame and no cognitive dissonance. I'm enjoying watching their credibility get shredded from both sides.

[The Chuck]

I heard someone say the South would rise again and came running... then I was sorely disappointed because they weren't talking about South Vietnam

Robin Williams nostalgia. ;’(

When the Boogaloo starts, you bet your cookies that I will play that when people try to come for me.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

Robin Williams nostalgia. ;’(

When the Boogaloo starts, you bet your cookies that I will play that when people try to come for me.

As well you should.

Now I wanna watch that movie, to get my Boogaloo going... wait, no. It’s too late. Gotta sleep!

[Bear Stearns]

I'm old enough to remember the "George Bush = Hitler" cries. I no longer care.

Now he has suddenly be rehabilitated as an American hero. These people have no shame and no cognitive dissonance. I'm enjoying watching their credibility get shredded from both sides.

I agree.

[Ors Might]

Yeah, trust me on this one. We got stomped hard enough that these days only a few chucklefucks are willing to so much as seriously entertain the idea of the South rising again.

Who says it'd be the South rising?

It’d be far too ironic if it was the North this time around.

[Bear Stearns]

Who says it'd be the South rising?

It’d be far too ironic if it was the North this time around.

The "North" doesn't exist as a cohesive cultural entity like it did in 1850. It's not the old Yankee stronghold it once was. It's more likely that the North goes up in flames in brutal fratricide as the Rust Belt, wealth liberals, and poor minorities duke it out with an unbelievable amount of hatred.

The South has much stronger internal stability and will probably be one of the safer places to be during societal collapse. Most of the fighting is going to take place in Northern cities and California.

[Ors Might]

It’d be far too ironic if it was the North this time around.

The "North" doesn't exist as a cohesive cultural entity like it did in 1850. It's not the old Yankee stronghold it once was. It's more likely that the North goes up in flames in brutal fratricide as the Rust Belt, wealth liberals, and poor minorities duke it out with an unbelievable amount of hatred.

The South has much stronger internal stability and will probably be one of the safer places to be during societal collapse. Most of the fighting is going to take place in Northern cities and California.

On the bright side, the memes would be legendary.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

The woke scolds have no credibility because people like you have seemed everything a closet racist plot. You cried wolf. Oops :^)

I'm old enough to remember the "George Bush = Hitler" cries. I no longer care.

Full disclosure, I was one of those people. Not sure I think he’s a hero though but there’s no shame in accepting that I used to think that way. *shrug*

[South Reinkalistan]

Only NSG could initiate a 6-page discussion on whether memes could start the second American civil war.

I'll be here with my popcorn.

[Samadhi]

Only NSG could initiate a 6-page discussion on whether memes could start the second American civil war.

I'll be here with my popcorn.

The big Luao is world wide.

[New haven america]

I heard someone say the South would rise again and came running... then I was sorely disappointed because they weren't talking about South Vietnam

Wait isn't south vietnam Korea???
Or is my geography bad.

Vietnam is in Indochina and Korea is next to China, Japan, and Russia.

[Albrenia]

I'm old enough to remember the "George Bush = Hitler" cries. I no longer care.

Now he has suddenly be rehabilitated as an American hero. These people have no shame and no cognitive dissonance. I'm enjoying watching their credibility get shredded from both sides.

I don't know if anybody considers him an American Hero on the left, they mostly just don't hate him anymore and consider him a lovable old dunce. That's my take anyway.

Exposure to Trump made many look more kindly on political opposition who aren't walking avatars of obnoxiousness.

[Unstoppable Empire of Doom]

So....


0.00001% of the population calls for a civil war, minus those who are joking. Minus those with multiple accounts. Welcome to "mainstream".

[Telconi]

Now he has suddenly be rehabilitated as an American hero. These people have no shame and no cognitive dissonance. I'm enjoying watching their credibility get shredded from both sides.

I don't know if anybody considers him an American Hero on the left, they mostly just don't hate him anymore and consider him a lovable old dunce. That's my take anyway.

Exposure to Trump made many look more kindly on political opposition who aren't walking avatars of obnoxiousness.

It's probably similar to the quasi-rehabilitation of Clinton that occured during the Obama years.

[Alvecia]

The last paragraph is the most interesting to me. It's really cool how we can track these things through cyber space now.

[New Hudazendkia]

The US definition of a liberal, or the rest-of-the-world term liberal?
Also, Adam Smith quote time!
In raising the price of commodities, the rise of wages operates in the same manner as simple interest does in the accumulation of debt. Our merchants and master manufacturers complain much of the bad effects of high wages in raising the price, and thereby lessening the sale of their goods, both at home and abroad. They say nothing concerning the bad effects of high profits; they are silent with regard to the pernicious effects of their own gains. They complain only of those of other people.

[Ifreann]

You'd think so, but actually the

is just a bunch of people getting their panties twisted into knots.


What's more worrying is the apparent mass of people who stubbornly refuse to even entertain the possibility that extreme beliefs might be expressed and normalised through jokes and irony. What is so hard to understand about someone saying something terrible, and really meaning it, but phrasing it as a joke?

I don’t think you understand what I’m trying to say. I don’t doubt that some might express their beliefs through jokes. I doubt that even a significant minority of people using this meme take it seriously. I doubt that even a significant minority of people being exposed to this meme take it seriously. And I doubt that a hate group that has serious intent on starting a second civil war and has the means to do so are going to express that solely through memes.

Based on this thread, I don't think that people in general do accept that someone might express extreme beliefs through jokes.

[SD_Film Artists]

Irony is a great way to introduce people to extreme ideas.

It's extreme to resist a government hell-bent on violating rights...?

I'm not certain that you'll get more rights from the people calling for a civil war.

[Dumb Ideologies]

People sometimes express violent extremist ideas in the form of jokes or memes to get them past the radar, in the hope that people with a dark sense of humour or who are just frustrated with "the system" will spread them about. And then from being spread they reach more people, a very small portion of which might actually agree with the message and get radicalised by it.

Panicking about it as if it's literally true doesn't make sense, people will laugh at the fact that you're taking a joke too seriously and that itself is another point on the stupid 4D culture war scoreboard where both sides act offended to try to get the other side to shut up while trying to wind up the other side with stupid inaccurate slurs and then claim they're "triggered".

Still, a meme spreading doesn't mean that there's an army of people ready to get up and do the thing, but it might mean you need to be extra vigilent for disturbed individuals doing violence inspired by it and imagining that their action will help inspire people to do the thing.

[Satuga]

I just don't see the rationale in refusing to even consider the suggestion that maybe memes can influence ideology and thought. I mean we give other forms of consumable media the same treatment.

Well, they certainly can, but it's not like banning Pepe did anything to change anything. Arresting people from saying Boogaloo will, at the very most, stop some people from discussing a shitty sequel movie.

At the very most? No, banning the word Boogaloo, at most will in of itself start a Boogaloo. (People like the 1st amendment quite a bit)

[SD_Film Artists]

So....


0.00001% of the population calls for a civil war, minus those who are joking. Minus those with multiple accounts. Welcome to "mainstream".

I was thinking that too. Whenever the right-wing doesn't like something in American politics you can take a shot of scotch if "unconstitutional" or "civil war" are mentioned. Take a second shot of scotch if the people saying it identify as "Scotch-Irish".

[Pilipinas and Malaya]

Wait, what the fuck? This exists? Okay, imagine twisting a word wildly out of proportion from weird party to all out war because this is exactly what that was.

[New Udonia]

Ah yes, I shall choose to believe the mainstream media which always has our best interests at heart. They would never lie just to polarize us and force us into radical camps for profit, that just isn't in their character.

[Satuga]

Well Ifreann, I guess in your fantasy land, I'm a evil white skinhead with a swastika on my forehead etc. etc. etc. simply because I'm the op of the gun control thread and I decided to have the current title be "Year of the Boogaloo?"...

Try reading.

Pointing out that hate groups do a thing =/= saying that that anyone who does a thing is in a hate group

Lol so does that mean a hate group doing literally anything should make headlines? "This just in: water is a associated with NAZIS?!?!" Not everything has to be associated with a hate group, and the news knows this, but this shit makes headlines. We're calling them out on their grouping bullshit. Milk is not associated with white supremacists, pepe is not associated with fascists, Boogaloo is not associated with fascists, and water is not associated with nazis. Stop with this association bullshit.