Should the Anti-GMO movement be taken seriously?

[Imperial Joseon]

The problems I see with some GMO foods have to do with genetic diversity problems make them vulnerable to certain types of illness or parasite, and the potential for agricultural monopolies.

The foods themselves, as a whole, don't seem less healthy as far as I know.

Another problem is how certain GM crops make their own pesticides.

Just use bug and mice predators, instead of pesticides?

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

No. Its just more unscientific bullshit like anti vaxxers, flat earthers, climate change denial, etc.

[Rojava Free State]

Another problem is how certain GM crops make their own pesticides.

Just use bug and mice predators, instead of pesticides?

^this

[Imperial Joseon]

Just use bug and mice predators, instead of pesticides?

^this

Much less contaminated that way.

[Kowani]

Just use bug and mice predators, instead of pesticides?

^this

Not feasible for large scale crop production.

[Rojava Free State]

There's still a lot we don't know about GMOs and their long term effects, so I don't blame people for being cautious. That's not to say I think all, or even most, of the panic from the anti-GMO crowd is justified.

Panera really hustling these people of their money with their "non-GMO food"

[Ifreann]

Just use bug and mice predators, instead of pesticides?

^this

Cane toads.

[Trollzyn the Infinite]

The only proper response to that question is to laugh heartily and uncontrollably.

[Gormwood]

In what I hope is a surprise to no one,I’m very heavily pro. I think the movement is the epitome of ignorance and fear, and, if it hadn’t captured the minds of suburbia, should be taken as seriously as the anti-vaxxers.

A guy pulled into my drive through and when he got to the window asked why the soup was $18. I explained to him that we make sure our food is non-GMO and he said "that's a load of bullshit! Tell your boss you guys just lost a customer!" And he sped away.

Why do we still try to pander to weirdos who are afraid of scientific facts?

So an entitled moron. It's not like he wasn't told how much it costed until he ordered it. Plus the stupid fuck better avoid the four-star restaurants where even the appetizers easily cost that much or more.

[Gormwood]

Basically anti-GMO activists assume they're all uncontrollable mutations made by Umbrella Corporation and eating too much will turn you into a zombie.

[Trollzyn the Infinite]

A guy pulled into my drive through and when he got to the window asked why the soup was $18. I explained to him that we make sure our food is non-GMO and he said "that's a load of bullshit! Tell your boss you guys just lost a customer!" And he sped away.

Why do we still try to pander to weirdos who are afraid of scientific facts?

So an entitled moron. It's not like he wasn't told how much it costed until he ordered it. Plus the stupid fuck better avoid the four-star restaurants where even the appetizers easily cost that much or more.

To be fair, $18 for soup *IS* fucking bullshit. It better be the best God damn soup on the whole fucking planet to cost that much.

[Radiatia]

I'm a big fan of healthy scepticism and certainly 20 years ago the anti-GMO movement might have had a point but in this day and age there's little to no evidence to back up their fears and they now seem nothing more than a bunch of Luddites.

[Gormwood]

So an entitled moron. It's not like he wasn't told how much it costed until he ordered it. Plus the stupid fuck better avoid the four-star restaurants where even the appetizers easily cost that much or more.

To be fair, $18 for soup *IS* fucking bullshit. It better be the best God damn soup on the whole fucking planet to cost that much.

Bird's Nest Soup and Shark Fin Soup ain't cheap.

[Outer Sparta]

Another problem is how certain GM crops make their own pesticides.

Just use bug and mice predators, instead of pesticides?

Biological applications make the most sense but there has to be a way for it to be feasible on a large industrial scale. Or if technologies such as vertical farming become the norm then we'll see a complete transformation in agriculture for the better.

[Rojava Free State]

A guy pulled into my drive through and when he got to the window asked why the soup was $18. I explained to him that we make sure our food is non-GMO and he said "that's a load of bullshit! Tell your boss you guys just lost a customer!" And he sped away.

Why do we still try to pander to weirdos who are afraid of scientific facts?

So an entitled moron. It's not like he wasn't told how much it costed until he ordered it. Plus the stupid fuck better avoid the four-star restaurants where even the appetizers easily cost that much or more.

He wouldn't be the first

[Rojava Free State]

To be fair, $18 for soup *IS* fucking bullshit. It better be the best God damn soup on the whole fucking planet to cost that much.

Bird's Nest Soup and Shark Fin Soup ain't cheap.

That's not what we serve though. We serve stuff like chicken noodle and tomato soup

[Fitepoia]

It is the naturalistic fallacy, plain and simple. If a plant had a natural mutation that was identical to a GMO, would that plant be somehow superior to the identical plant? Are scientists targetting specific genes with peer-reviewed studies into the effects of the change incapable of making things better? It makes no sense.

[Arlenton]

No.

[Gormwood]

Bird's Nest Soup and Shark Fin Soup ain't cheap.

That's not what we serve though. We serve stuff like chicken noodle and tomato soup

So how much soup you get for $18?

[Rojava Free State]

That's not what we serve though. We serve stuff like chicken noodle and tomato soup

So how much soup you get for $18?

So for 18 you get enough to feed 4 people. Not too bad, except for one person it's $6.24-6.88 and then our chicken sandwich is like almost $10.

Is it the most expensive restaurant in earth? No, but considering the location and the actual quality of the food (one salad is like over 700 calories), I would say it's still over priced

[Genivaria]

It should be viewed in the same regard as anti-vaxxers.

[Liriena]

Not in and of itself. GMOs aren't inherently dangerous or unethical. We can certainly criticise the specific practices and systemic issues pertaining the food industry as they relate to genetic modification, but that's not a problem innate to genetic modification.

[Gormwood]

Not in and of itself. GMOs aren't inherently dangerous or unethical. We can certainly criticise the specific practices and systemic issues pertaining the food industry as they relate to genetic modification, but that's not a problem innate to genetic modification.

Especially Monsanto and its habit of Sue Any Farm That Accidentally Picks Up Our Patent Pollen By Wind Out Of Existence.

[United Muscovite Nations]

Their beliefs? No. Their influence? Yes.

[Rojava Free State]

Their beliefs? No. Their influence? Yes.

How long till anti-GMO kills someone? I know anti vax already did