by New Bremerton » Fri Feb 14, 2020 4:08 am
by Page » Fri Feb 14, 2020 4:23 am
by Alvecia » Fri Feb 14, 2020 4:29 am
by Samudera Darussalam » Fri Feb 14, 2020 5:10 am
by True Refuge » Fri Feb 14, 2020 5:12 am
"One does not need to be surprised then, when 26 years later the outrageous slogan is repeated, which we Marxists burned all bridges with: to “pick up” the banner of the bourgeoisie. - International Communist Party, Dialogue with Stalin.
by Unstoppable Empire of Doom » Fri Feb 14, 2020 5:16 am
by Satuga » Fri Feb 14, 2020 5:58 am
by Cameroi » Fri Feb 14, 2020 6:00 am
by Servilis » Fri Feb 14, 2020 6:01 am
Alvecia wrote:I would say the finger should be pointed at secularism rather than atheism. The latter being something of a subset of the former.
Secularism I would say has definitely made the world a better place.
by Chessmistress » Fri Feb 14, 2020 6:07 am
by True Refuge » Fri Feb 14, 2020 6:10 am
Servilis wrote:Alvecia wrote:I would say the finger should be pointed at secularism rather than atheism. The latter being something of a subset of the former.
Secularism I would say has definitely made the world a better place.
I agree.
As that one person on Twitter put it :
"Religion is like a penis, it's okay to have one, it's okay to be proud of one, but it's NEVER okay to take it out in public and shove it down my throat or my child's throat."
"One does not need to be surprised then, when 26 years later the outrageous slogan is repeated, which we Marxists burned all bridges with: to “pick up” the banner of the bourgeoisie. - International Communist Party, Dialogue with Stalin.
by Ifreann » Fri Feb 14, 2020 6:21 am
by Nolo gap » Fri Feb 14, 2020 6:21 am
by Satuga » Fri Feb 14, 2020 6:25 am
Ifreann wrote:Atheism is the default state of humanity. It can't have made the world a better place because that just doesn't make sense, it's how the world always was until we invented gods.
by Hammer Britannia » Fri Feb 14, 2020 6:27 am
by Chan Island » Fri Feb 14, 2020 6:27 am
Conserative Morality wrote:"It's not time yet" is a tactic used by reactionaries in every era. "It's not time for democracy, it's not time for capitalism, it's not time for emancipation." Of course it's not time. It's never time, not on its own. You make it time. If you're under fire in the no-man's land of WW1, you start digging a foxhole even if the ideal time would be when you *aren't* being bombarded, because once you wait for it to be 'time', other situations will need your attention, assuming you survive that long. If the fields aren't furrowed, plow them. If the iron is not hot, make it so. If society is not ready, change it.
by Ifreann » Fri Feb 14, 2020 6:34 am
Satuga wrote:Ifreann wrote:Atheism is the default state of humanity. It can't have made the world a better place because that just doesn't make sense, it's how the world always was until we invented gods.
No... The default state of humanity had religion. It's why literally every civilization had some form of god or worshiped some sort of deity. Hell cavemen probably thought storms were some type angry god striking them down for not eating a fish right or something.
by Marxist Germany » Fri Feb 14, 2020 6:36 am
Ifreann wrote:Satuga wrote:No... The default state of humanity had religion. It's why literally every civilization had some form of god or worshiped some sort of deity. Hell cavemen probably thought storms were some type angry god striking them down for not eating a fish right or something.
Explain to me how humans had religion before they invented religion. Explain to me how the first humans were somehow born believing in god without anyone ever explaining the idea to them or them inventing the idea themselves.
by Satuga » Fri Feb 14, 2020 6:40 am
Ifreann wrote:Satuga wrote:No... The default state of humanity had religion. It's why literally every civilization had some form of god or worshiped some sort of deity. Hell cavemen probably thought storms were some type angry god striking them down for not eating a fish right or something.
Explain to me how humans had religion before they invented religion. Explain to me how the first humans were somehow born believing in god without anyone ever explaining the idea to them or them inventing the idea themselves.
by Chan Island » Fri Feb 14, 2020 6:40 am
Conserative Morality wrote:"It's not time yet" is a tactic used by reactionaries in every era. "It's not time for democracy, it's not time for capitalism, it's not time for emancipation." Of course it's not time. It's never time, not on its own. You make it time. If you're under fire in the no-man's land of WW1, you start digging a foxhole even if the ideal time would be when you *aren't* being bombarded, because once you wait for it to be 'time', other situations will need your attention, assuming you survive that long. If the fields aren't furrowed, plow them. If the iron is not hot, make it so. If society is not ready, change it.
by Satuga » Fri Feb 14, 2020 6:41 am
Marxist Germany wrote:Because God created Adam and Eve.
by Satuga » Fri Feb 14, 2020 6:42 am
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