Has atheism made the world a better place?

[Tarchuna and Ravenna]

Irreligious != atheist, and that's absolutely not a real battle that exists

Irreligious is another term for agnostic atheist though.

Agnostocism and Atheism are different.

[LimaUniformNovemberAlpha]

How does this prove that “religion is a deadly poison” and there is “religious opposition to stem cell research”?

You honestly don't remember the huge media kerfluffle about it in 2004?

[Tarchuna and Ravenna]

How does this prove that “religion is a deadly poison” and there is “religious opposition to stem cell research”?

You honestly don't remember the huge media kerfluffle about it in 2004?

Explain.

[Luziyca]

I would say the finger should be pointed at secularism rather than atheism. The latter being something of a subset of the former.

Secularism I would say has definitely made the world a better place.

Yeah, secularism has made the world a much better place.

But even if everyone were atheist, I'm sure we'll still have disagreements between factions that could make the world a bit unpleasant. Just like how there are many different flavors of communism, there are many different flavors of atheism, and I'm sure if atheism were widespread, there'd still be conflict over what flavor to follow.

[Alvecia]

It has, most young people are atheists in my experience, most people don't take any kind of philosophical positions though, so it doesn't matter. It's a battle between the non-religious movements (which tend to be dominated by STEMlords) and the humanities.

I mean, the stats don’t really add up. I have honestly only met a few atheists in person before.

According to Wikipedia, there are “200 million to 240 million self-identified atheists worldwide”, and the world has a population of more than 7.5 billion.

"Nones" tend towards atheism as well, though they just choose not to identify as such fora variety of reasons.

[VoVoDoCo]

It has, most young people are atheists in my experience, most people don't take any kind of philosophical positions though, so it doesn't matter. It's a battle between the non-religious movements (which tend to be dominated by STEMlords) and the humanities.

I mean, the stats don’t really add up. I have honestly only met a few atheists in person before.

According to Wikipedia, there are “200 million to 240 million self-identified atheists worldwide”, and the world has a population of more than 7.5 billion.

Yeah, the number of youth atheist Is rising in America, but most youths still have a religious affiliation.

https://www.barna.com/research/atheism- ... eration-z/

[Cekoviu]

It has, most young people are atheists in my experience, most people don't take any kind of philosophical positions though, so it doesn't matter. It's a battle between the non-religious movements (which tend to be dominated by STEMlords) and the humanities.

I mean, the stats don’t really add up. I have honestly only met a few atheists in person before.

According to Wikipedia, there are “200 million to 240 million self-identified atheists worldwide”, and the world has a population of more than 7.5 billion.

It's relatively common in Russia, China, and Europe at large. Those are huge demographics. It's just underrepresented in some key areas: the Middle East, Africa, and most of the Americas.

[Panslav]

Religion relies on magic, and I would never imagine that I would have to quote that man, yet: "Great liars are also great magicians." - Adolf Hitler

[Phoenicaea]

^agnosticism and atheism stay different, they can be said same family in the sense we have different shades of agnosticism.

since philosophically you have got a prime difference between them, still if you go further you see capillary arguments and shades. i m agnostic.

[The Emerald Legion]

Irreligious != atheist, and that's absolutely not a real battle that exists

Irreligious is another term for agnostic atheist though.

The issue is that most of the time, those people are more on the line of Agnostic Theists who aren't fond of going to church.

Why do you think Neopaganism is seeing the boom it is? People are looking for something, finding holes in Christianity and turning elsewhere.

[LimaUniformNovemberAlpha]

You honestly don't remember the huge media kerfluffle about it in 2004?

Explain.

To give you the brief summary, stem cell research was a prominent debate in the 2004 election cycle. There was a South Park episode about it. ("Kenny Dies," although that one was wrong about the source of stem cells; they were portrayed as coming from fetuses and not from IVF or lab zygotes.) The Anti-Bush Game (a 2004-era flash game) featured references to it. Bush resorted to a veto over it. And he got re-elected.

That said, you should look into it further. You really should know a bit more about a key ingredient in the re-election of the former leader of the free world...

[Tarchuna and Ravenna]

Irreligious is another term for agnostic atheist though.

The issue is that most of the time, those people are more on the line of Agnostic Theists who aren't fond of going to church.

Why do you think Neopaganism is seeing the boom it is? People are looking for something, finding holes in Christianity and turning elsewhere.

When forest hipsters convince themselves they are saving the world by turning off a lightbulb...

[VoVoDoCo]

Religion relies on magic, and I would never imagine that I would have to quote that man, yet: "Great liars are also great magicians." - Adolf Hitler

The weight of religious inference in Hitler’s speeches far outweigh the occasional criticism he had against religious institutions.

Read all of his quotes under the speeches tab:
https://en.m.wikiquote.org/wiki/Religio ... olf_Hitler

[Tarchuna and Ravenna]

Explain.

To give you the brief summary, stem cell research was a prominent debate in the 2004 election cycle. There was a South Park episode about it. ("Kenny Dies," although that one was wrong about the source of stem cells; they were portrayed as coming from fetuses and not from IVF or lab zygotes.) The Anti-Bush Game (a 2004-era flash game) featured references to it. Bush resorted to a veto over it. And he got re-elected.

That said, you should look into it further. You really should know a bit more about a key ingredient in the re-election of the former leader of the free world...

Other than that, why do you think religion is toxic?

[Tarchuna and Ravenna]

Religion relies on magic, and I would never imagine that I would have to quote that man, yet: "Great liars are also great magicians." - Adolf Hitler

The weight of religious inference in Hitler’s speeches far outweigh the occasional criticism he had against religious institutions.

Read all of his quotes under the speeches tab:
https://en.m.wikiquote.org/wiki/Religio ... olf_Hitler

He kinda had to pose as a Christian to control Germany.

[Panslav]

Religion relies on magic, and I would never imagine that I would have to quote that man, yet: "Great liars are also great magicians." - Adolf Hitler

The weight of religious inference in Hitler’s speeches far outweigh the occasional criticism he had against religious institutions.

Read all of his quotes under the speeches tab:
https://en.m.wikiquote.org/wiki/Religio ... olf_Hitler

I didn't mean to say Hitler was anti-religious. But great quotes can be found even in delusional man's work.

[Bear Stearns]

No, because it didn't make the world less religious, it transferred the desire for spirituality and morality away from Christianity and towards political extremism.

[Ifreann]

Again, atheism is the default. People must learn to believe, must create religions. Atheism doesn't do anything. It just is.

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"Religion is like this thing that makes you feel great and takes away your pain"
"Wow, Marx sure did think religion was for nerds"

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You cannot possibly "kill" the concept of not believing in any god or gods. Even if you could convert everyone on Earth, you can't stop people from having a personal crisis of faith. I guarantee you that there are people in your own religious community who are actually atheists.

Not really. The idea of the spooky scaries and spirits is pretty darn natural.

Animism is the default, even if not inherently formalized.

It may very well be natural for people to come up with these ideas, but that doesn't mean that we come into existence believing in them.

[Dogmeat]

To give you the brief summary, stem cell research was a prominent debate in the 2004 election cycle. There was a South Park episode about it. ("Kenny Dies," although that one was wrong about the source of stem cells; they were portrayed as coming from fetuses and not from IVF or lab zygotes.) The Anti-Bush Game (a 2004-era flash game) featured references to it. Bush resorted to a veto over it. And he got re-elected.

That said, you should look into it further. You really should know a bit more about a key ingredient in the re-election of the former leader of the free world...

Other than that, why do you think religion is toxic?

It infects us in our deepest integrity. It says we wouldn't know right or wrong without it. It says we must kneel to an unquestionable, unalterable supreme authority. Whom we must love, and fear. And threatens children with eternal torment if they do not.

Among other things.

[Bear Stearns]

Source?

hurrr Kerry/Lieberman '04. Buck Fush no more wars for oil. Jesusland. Enron.

[Tarchuna and Ravenna]

Other than that, why do you think religion is toxic?

It infects us in our deepest integrity. It says we wouldn't know right or wrong without it. It says we must kneel to an unquestionable, unalterable supreme authority. Whom we must love, and fear. And threatens children with eternal torment if they do not.

Among other things.

That’s just the Abrahamic faiths.

[Tarchuna and Ravenna]

Other than that, why do you think religion is toxic?

It infects us in our deepest integrity. It says we wouldn't know right or wrong without it. It says we must kneel to an unquestionable, unalterable supreme authority. Whom we must love, and fear. And threatens children with eternal torment if they do not.

Among other things.

And if one simply believes in a higher power?

[Dogmeat]

It infects us in our deepest integrity. It says we wouldn't know right or wrong without it. It says we must kneel to an unquestionable, unalterable supreme authority. Whom we must love, and fear. And threatens children with eternal torment if they do not.

Among other things.

That’s just the Abrahamic faiths.

Just, by far, the most popular ones. Yeah.

[Panslav]

Again, atheism is the default. People must learn to believe, must create religions. Atheism doesn't do anything. It just is.

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"Religion is like this thing that makes you feel great and takes away your pain"
"Wow, Marx sure did think religion was for nerds"

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You cannot possibly "kill" the concept of not believing in any god or gods. Even if you could convert everyone on Earth, you can't stop people from having a personal crisis of faith. I guarantee you that there are people in your own religious community who are actually atheists.

Not really. The idea of the spooky scaries and spirits is pretty darn natural.

Animism is the default, even if not inherently formalized.

Animism makes a positive claim. Something that makes a positive claim can't be the default position since it has the burden of proof on it.

[Phoenicaea]

^i guess we can say. agnostic theist is good, you have a fan of shaded opinions. agnostic theist is close to religion, agnostic atheist is little far.

it is comprehensible we sum agnostics and atheists all toghether for census, then. such matter is difficult to debate, so people say theirselves ‘atheist’