The creepy double standards of Female rape.

[Antityranicals]

Why is it that just because I don't believe that people should be jailed for something that I am suddenly supporting it? The law doesn't exist to push forward morality, it exists to protect people from having their rights violated. And given how my rights are mine, and nobody else's, if I decide, with the full power and capability to do something about it, that my rights are not being violated, they are, in fact, not being violated. And I hate to break it to you, but adults prey sexually on adults all of the time. The exact same arguments you use about predators and sex with minors could be used to ban premarital sex altogether. However, a toxic relationship, however horrible, is not a crime unless someone's rights are being violated. And you're starting to get into scary territory. If the law doesn't exist for the benefit of the victim, who exactly does it exist for?

You may be surprised to learn that adults who prey on adults are also rapists, manipulators, and overall horrifically toxic people. Adults that do that to children are even worse because children do not have the same maturity, weariness, or understanding of how adults function.

Any sexual encounter between an adult and a child is rape because the child isn’t mature enough to consent. I don’t give a fuck about what paper-thin pseudo-intellectual reasoning you might give to support child rape, but it’s objectively wrong. You are effectively condoning and supporting the legal definition of child rape, there is zero way for you to pretzel that into some pretentiously philosophical argument in favor of granting kids the ability to get strong armed into having sex with predators.

Being a horrible person isn't a crime. What I am supporting is not a decriminalization, but a refocusing of criminal justice on what matters: ensuring that the victim is recompensed for harms done against him or her. Everything else is just the state flexing. If a rape victim wants his or her rapist sentenced to a life of hard labor, with the proceeds going to said victim, I am entirely in favor of that happening. However, you forget that in order for an act to be rape, it must be non-consensual. And I'm afraid that absolutely nobody but the victim will ever be in a position to determine that.

[Senkaku]

You may be surprised to learn that adults who prey on adults are also rapists, manipulators, and overall horrifically toxic people. Adults that do that to children are even worse because children do not have the same maturity, weariness, or understanding of how adults function.

Any sexual encounter between an adult and a child is rape because the child isn’t mature enough to consent. I don’t give a fuck about what paper-thin pseudo-intellectual reasoning you might give to support child rape, but it’s objectively wrong. You are effectively condoning and supporting the legal definition of child rape, there is zero way for you to pretzel that into some pretentiously philosophical argument in favor of granting kids the ability to get strong armed into having sex with predators.

Being a horrible person isn't a crime.

Literally it is there are so many crimes that we've written down and agreed on as a society for this exact reason

[Cantelo]

You may be surprised to learn that adults who prey on adults are also rapists, manipulators, and overall horrifically toxic people. Adults that do that to children are even worse because children do not have the same maturity, weariness, or understanding of how adults function.

Any sexual encounter between an adult and a child is rape because the child isn’t mature enough to consent. I don’t give a fuck about what paper-thin pseudo-intellectual reasoning you might give to support child rape, but it’s objectively wrong. You are effectively condoning and supporting the legal definition of child rape, there is zero way for you to pretzel that into some pretentiously philosophical argument in favor of granting kids the ability to get strong armed into having sex with predators.

Being a horrible person isn't a crime. What I am supporting is not a decriminalization, but a refocusing of criminal justice on what matters: ensuring that the victim is recompensed for harms done against him or her. Everything else is just the state flexing. If a rape victim wants his or her rapist sentenced to a life of hard labor, with the proceeds going to said victim, I am entirely in favor of that happening. However, you forget that in order for an act to be rape, it must be non-consensual. And I'm afraid that absolutely nobody but the victim will ever be in a position to determine that.

Holy fuck, dude,

Children and adults cannot have sexual relations.

Children cannot consent by default. We are talking about children being molested, sexually abused, raped, and taken advantage of by adults. The only people who would seek out sex with a minor are people who are inherently predatory, there is nothing of value to be gained from allowing children the right to consent because they just aren’t fucking developed enough mentally (and physically) to consent to that. It’s the job of society to protect children, and protecting them from those who seek to harm them is crucial even when the child is too fucking dumb to understand what it is that may harm them.

Do you understand how hard it is to not break the forum rules right now? Because I’m very upset at the fact you are trying to defend pedophilia. Don’t fucking tell me you aren’t, because it boils down to you implying that pedophiles should have a right to have sex with children and it should be legalized.

It’s fucking disgusting. Your argument is just gross and a giant turd wrapped in pseudo-intellectual thought.

[Costa Fierro]

Being a horrible person isn't a crime. What I am supporting is not a decriminalization, but a refocusing of criminal justice on what matters: ensuring that the victim is recompensed for harms done against him or her. Everything else is just the state flexing. If a rape victim wants his or her rapist sentenced to a life of hard labor, with the proceeds going to said victim, I am entirely in favor of that happening. However, you forget that in order for an act to be rape, it must be non-consensual. And I'm afraid that absolutely nobody but the victim will ever be in a position to determine that.

Holy fuck, dude,

Children and adults cannot have sexual relations.

Children cannot consent by default. We are talking about children being molested, sexually abused, raped, and taken advantage of by adults. The only people who would seek out sex with a minor are people who are inherently predatory, there is nothing of value to be gained from allowing children the right to consent because they just aren’t fucking developed enough mentally (and physically) to consent to that. It’s the job of society to protect children, and protecting them from those who seek to harm them is crucial even when the child is too fucking dumb to understand what it is that may harm them.

Do you understand how hard it is to not break the forum rules right now? Because I’m very upset at the fact you are trying to defend pedophilia. Don’t fucking tell me you aren’t, because it boils down to you implying that pedophiles should have a right to have sex with children and it should be legalized.

It’s fucking disgusting. Your argument is just gross and a giant turd wrapped in pseudo-intellectual thought.

The meme is writing itself.

[Senkaku]

Holy fuck, dude,

Children and adults cannot have sexual relations.

Children cannot consent by default. We are talking about children being molested, sexually abused, raped, and taken advantage of by adults. The only people who would seek out sex with a minor are people who are inherently predatory, there is nothing of value to be gained from allowing children the right to consent because they just aren’t fucking developed enough mentally (and physically) to consent to that. It’s the job of society to protect children, and protecting them from those who seek to harm them is crucial even when the child is too fucking dumb to understand what it is that may harm them.

Do you understand how hard it is to not break the forum rules right now? Because I’m very upset at the fact you are trying to defend pedophilia. Don’t fucking tell me you aren’t, because it boils down to you implying that pedophiles should have a right to have sex with children and it should be legalized.

It’s fucking disgusting. Your argument is just gross and a giant turd wrapped in pseudo-intellectual thought.

The meme is writing itself.

"Say 'ephebophilia' and your journey to the meme side will be complete!"

[Neanderthaland]

A crime is not against the state, a crime is against a person. And the state prosecuting a crime that the victim doesn't want prosecuted is as ridiculous as arresting one of two consenting adults having sex for rape.

How do you prosecute murder?

By definition, the victim doesn’t want the crime prosecuted.

Call in a medium to determine if their house is haunted.

[Cannot think of a name]

How do you prosecute murder?

By definition, the victim doesn’t want the crime prosecuted.

Call in a medium to determine if their house is haunted.

If a haunting ghost kills you traumatically and you become a ghost, who do you haunt?

[Neanderthaland]

Call in a medium to determine if their house is haunted.

If a haunting ghost kills you traumatically and you become a ghost, who do you haunt?

hauntception.

[Red Roja]

This is why I feel extra bad for male rape victims. Not only did they go through a potentially traumatic and psychologically damaging experience, but they also face even more stigma than female victims because female on male rape is taken far less seriously by society. I remember a few years ago I saw a news story about a guy that shot himself in the head. It turned out that he was raped by a woman and when he went to the police, they just laughed at him and his wife left him because she thought the rape was just a lie to cover up an affair.

Male privilege, anyone?

[New haven america]

In a lot of areas it kinda is.

Like how in a lot of places a women even being minorly intoxicated and having sex with a man of any intoxication level makes the man a rapist, but a drunk man can have sex with a sober women and it's seen as perfectly fine.

See:The part of the post you didn't bold.

Yeah, and I was using IRL examples instead of hypotheticals.

[Cannot think of a name]

See:The part of the post you didn't bold.

Yeah, and I was using IRL examples instead of hypotheticals.

Um...okay. Sure.

[The Grims]

Today on NS, “is it wrong for women to commit statutory rape?”

26 year old female teacher has sex with 14 year old boy.
The internet: nice.

26 year old male teacher has sex with 14 year old girl.
The internet: rip his dick off, the pedo !

[The Huskar Social Union]

Rape is Rape, doesnt matter if you have a dick or an vagina, you do it your a cunt. And i hate the attitude some people have that an adult woman fucking a male child is somehow not as bad as the reverse.

I had a conversation like this in uni with two male students in my group at lunch once (it was over something that was in the news, i think in america iirc it was like 4 years ago), and one of them was firmly in the camp that it was every boys dream and how it wasnt as bad.

Pissed me off then, pissed me off now. Its not nice, he is not lucky, its fucking rape end of.

[LRON]

No, they literally can’t, because then whether or not it was a crime is based on the subjective later feelings of another, not any action the accused took or didn’t take.

Maybe, but that's irrelevant. If a someone had no quarrel with someone, there is no need for the state to intervene on his or her behalf.

I congratulate you on your decision to join the priesthood.

[Andsed]

Rape is rape male or female. Teenagers can not consent. To suggest otherwise is a denial of reality. If a teacher has sex with a student then they need to be prosecuted.

[Red Roja]

Rape is Rape, doesnt matter if you have a dick or an vagina, you do it your a cunt. And i hate the attitude some people have that an adult woman fucking a male child is somehow not as bad as the reverse.

I had a conversation like this in uni with two male students in my group at lunch once (it was over something that was in the news, i think in america iirc it was like 4 years ago), and one of them was firmly in the camp that it was every boys dream and how it wasnt as bad.

Pissed me off then, pissed me off now. Its not nice, he is not lucky, its fucking rape end of.

Sadly, the mentality of all guys secretly wanting it all the time is highly prevalent in all sectors of society.

[Jebslund]

Doing it like that risks endangering a lot more children. The government has a duty to protect its citizens from things like rape, not allow it for longer.

If it's consensual, it's not rape. How is that complicated?

Consider the following: Your boss wants to have sex with you. She has the power to ensure you will be fired and blacklisted from the industry you work in if you piss her off. You have no way of knowing whether or not she will use it, and you are not sure you want to have sex with her. No explicit threats are made, but there is an implicit one, whether or not she intends there to be one, that refusing will be the end of your career. You have no prospects in other lines of work, as, in this hypothetical, you are of an age where other workplaces will happily make shit up to say you are not qualified to work for them, or just call you overqualified, and you have no way of proving your age was the deciding factor. You cannot rely on your friends or family to support you should you be fired for refusing her, as they consider her to be attractive (even though you do not) and therefore think you would be lucky to get a shot at her and an irredeemable fool to refuse her.. One day, she makes several hints at wanting you in her bed, and, at the end of the day, asks you outright.

Is there any sensible answer to her invitation but to accept and hope it's over quickly?

[LimaUniformNovemberAlpha]

You know, when I was 14, I was way too obsessed with one particular girl to be open to the advances of other teenage girls, let alone grown women. But I was not a representative sample of males. If anything, the fact that I'm often mistaken for speaking from personal experience when I call females the pickier sex is a testament to how opposite I am from normal males.

The "males are horndogs" stereotype has been vindicated by the irrationality of those who dispute it. If women who have sex with underage boys doubt that what they're doing is wrong, it's not their fault.

[Andsed]

You know, when I was 14, I was way too obsessed with one particular girl to be open to the advances of other teenage girls, let alone grown women. But I was not a representative sample of males. If anything, the fact that I'm often mistaken for speaking from personal experience when I call females the pickier sex is a testament to how opposite I am from normal males.

The "males are horndogs" stereotype has been vindicated by the irrationality of those who dispute it. If women who have sex with underage boys doubt that what they're doing is wrong, it's not their fault.

What the fuck even is this? The idea that it is okay for grown females to have sex with underage males because they “want it” is a blatant lie. Underage people cannot consent as it is not informed consent and any grown person should know this and not act on this. A grown woman having sex with an underage male is not consenting sex or something that is remotely okay.

[The Huskar Social Union]

You know, when I was 14, I was way too obsessed with one particular girl to be open to the advances of other teenage girls, let alone grown women. But I was not a representative sample of males. If anything, the fact that I'm often mistaken for speaking from personal experience when I call females the pickier sex is a testament to how opposite I am from normal males.

The "males are horndogs" stereotype has been vindicated by the irrationality of those who dispute it. If women who have sex with underage boys doubt that what they're doing is wrong, it's not their fault.

Absolute fucking bollocks, have some faith in your own gender for once.

[LimaUniformNovemberAlpha]

You know, when I was 14, I was way too obsessed with one particular girl to be open to the advances of other teenage girls, let alone grown women. But I was not a representative sample of males. If anything, the fact that I'm often mistaken for speaking from personal experience when I call females the pickier sex is a testament to how opposite I am from normal males.

The "males are horndogs" stereotype has been vindicated by the irrationality of those who dispute it. If women who have sex with underage boys doubt that what they're doing is wrong, it's not their fault.

What the fuck even is this? The idea that it is okay for grown females to have sex with underage males because they “want it” is a blatant lie. Underage people cannot consent as it is not informed consent and any grown person should know this and not act on this. A grown woman having sex with an underage male is not consenting sex or something that is remotely okay.

But if they want it because they aren't picky, wouldn't they be less likely to regret it for the same reason?

[Cantelo]

What the fuck even is this? The idea that it is okay for grown females to have sex with underage males because they “want it” is a blatant lie. Underage people cannot consent as it is not informed consent and any grown person should know this and not act on this. A grown woman having sex with an underage male is not consenting sex or something that is remotely okay.

But if they want it because they aren't picky, wouldn't they be less likely to regret it for the same reason?

Whether or not both parties want it, it's still illegal because a child cannot consent. Any adult attempting to have sex with a minor is inherently taking advantage of the fact that a child's consent is uninformed and coming from the immature opinion of an underaged person.

[Andsed]

What the fuck even is this? The idea that it is okay for grown females to have sex with underage males because they “want it” is a blatant lie. Underage people cannot consent as it is not informed consent and any grown person should know this and not act on this. A grown woman having sex with an underage male is not consenting sex or something that is remotely okay.

But if they want it because they aren't picky, wouldn't they be less likely to regret it for the same reason?

Whether they want it is not relevant here. This is about how minors cannot consent and how utterly unacceptable for adults to exploit that regardless of gender.

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Laws concerning sex crimes should be blind to gender and sexist double standards should be publicly refuted.

[Estanglia]

Rape is rape. Raping a boy is as bad as raping a girl, and justifying either is despicable.