..but still, the title of this thread is very inappropriate and seems to be written by someone who has no knowledge of the AfD or the German political landscape whatsoever.
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by SD_Film Artists » Thu Feb 06, 2020 2:34 am
Page wrote:North German Realm wrote:Why though. Surely the Germans, of all people, would just flat out refuse to let them be a party if they were actually fascist
Laws are public knowledge. They can be read, understood, and one can walk the line without stepping over it. That's what the NPD does. The AfD, in addition to walking the legal line, also walks the line of public opinion. But more often these days, the mask falls off and one of its politicians says what they really believe.
by Phoenicaea » Thu Feb 06, 2020 2:37 am
by Hirota » Thu Feb 06, 2020 2:45 am
It's hardly just Ohio guilty of that. Profligate overuse of the word threatens to render it uninformative. Accusations of “fascism” are applied to such a diversity of political types that being called one seems little more distinctive than wearing jeans.
by Phoenicaea » Thu Feb 06, 2020 2:49 am
by Aturiye » Thu Feb 06, 2020 2:49 am
by Nakena » Thu Feb 06, 2020 2:56 am
by The Greater Ohio Valley » Thu Feb 06, 2020 3:01 am
Tigenia wrote:Well not to be offensive but your knowledge of Right wing ideologies, more specifically fascism, seems to be very shallow.
by North German Realm » Thu Feb 06, 2020 3:04 am
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by The New California Republic » Thu Feb 06, 2020 3:05 am
by Spain2007 » Thu Feb 06, 2020 3:21 am
by The Greater Ohio Valley » Thu Feb 06, 2020 3:22 am
by Leninist Haven » Thu Feb 06, 2020 3:55 am
Spain2007 wrote:When you call everyone who dosent think like you a fascist, and you call them authoritarian? isnt your mindset authoritarian?
do you know what even fascism means?? do you even know who Mussolini is? do you even know difference between nazism and classical fascism?
you remind me of right wing americans that call everyone who disagres with you a commie or a socialist
classical fascism is more totalitarian centre than exstreme right
by Bear Stearns » Thu Feb 06, 2020 4:37 am
by Leninist Haven » Thu Feb 06, 2020 4:47 am
Bear Stearns wrote:"fascist"
by Bear Stearns » Thu Feb 06, 2020 4:54 am
Leninist Haven wrote:Bear Stearns wrote:"fascist"
I'm becoming increasingly worried that nothing is being considered fascist anymore. One of their candidates openly associated with a man who glorified Nazism, going on a trip with him in a far, far-right rally. They think that CDU are not harsh enough, and the CDU are the moderates. Their #1 issue seems to be talking about killing immigrants within a legal framework. To imply that it's ridiculous to call them fascist is strange, as there is some evidence, whether one agrees with it or not.
by Leninist Haven » Thu Feb 06, 2020 5:00 am
Bear Stearns wrote:Leninist Haven wrote:I'm becoming increasingly worried that nothing is being considered fascist anymore. One of their candidates openly associated with a man who glorified Nazism, going on a trip with him in a far, far-right rally. They think that CDU are not harsh enough, and the CDU are the moderates. Their #1 issue seems to be talking about killing immigrants within a legal framework. To imply that it's ridiculous to call them fascist is strange, as there is some evidence, whether one agrees with it or not.
Who's fault do you think that is?
People have a problem with being called a fascist because fascists are like the one political group against whom violence and repression is socially acceptable (it is illegal to be a fascist in several western countries). So when you call people fascist, you are really calling for them to be suppressed. And that really pisses people off.
by American Pere Housh » Thu Feb 06, 2020 5:16 am
by SD_Film Artists » Thu Feb 06, 2020 5:44 am
Leninist Haven wrote:Bear Stearns wrote:"fascist"
I'm becoming increasingly worried that nothing is being considered fascist anymore. One of their candidates openly associated with a man who glorified Nazism, going on a trip with him in a far, far-right rally. They think that CDU are not harsh enough, and the CDU are the moderates. Their #1 issue seems to be talking about killing immigrants within a legal framework. To imply that it's ridiculous to call them fascist is strange, as there is some evidence, whether one agrees with it or not.
by Rojava Free State » Thu Feb 06, 2020 5:45 am
Rojava Free State wrote:Listen yall. I'm only gonna say it once but I want you to remember it. This ain't a world fit for good men. It seems like you gotta be monstrous just to make it. Gotta have a little bit of darkness within you just to survive. You gotta stoop low everyday it seems like. Stoop all the way down to the devil in these times. And then one day you look in the mirror and you realize that you ain't you anymore. You're just another monster, and thanks to your actions, someone else will eventually become as warped and twisted as you. Never forget that the best of us are just the best of a bad lot. Being at the top of a pile of feces doesn't make you anything but shit like the rest. Never forget that.
by Leninist Haven » Thu Feb 06, 2020 5:53 am
SD_Film Artists wrote:Leninist Haven wrote:I'm becoming increasingly worried that nothing is being considered fascist anymore. One of their candidates openly associated with a man who glorified Nazism, going on a trip with him in a far, far-right rally. They think that CDU are not harsh enough, and the CDU are the moderates. Their #1 issue seems to be talking about killing immigrants within a legal framework. To imply that it's ridiculous to call them fascist is strange, as there is some evidence, whether one agrees with it or not.
I'd guess it's like the boy who cried wolf. The word 'fascist' has become a synonym for 'person who disagrees with me' so it's no longer surprising when someone is called a fascist.
by Albennia » Thu Feb 06, 2020 5:54 am
Rojava Free State wrote:Europe is definitely taking a rightward turn, and I don't mean mitt romney right. I mean more like Richard Spencer right
by Leninist Haven » Thu Feb 06, 2020 5:56 am
Albennia wrote:Google "Old Social Democratic Party", it puts the situation in (former) East Germany in some perspective. It's not exactly unprecedented. If Die Linke were to actually listen to their natural voter base (all the young liberals are going to the Greens anyway, no point in chasing after them) guarantee you they would take all of the AfD's support in the EastRojava Free State wrote:Europe is definitely taking a rightward turn, and I don't mean mitt romney right. I mean more like Richard Spencer right
Yes, which is why the German Greens are polling in the low twenties
by North German Realm » Thu Feb 06, 2020 6:38 am
Leninist Haven wrote:Albennia wrote:Google "Old Social Democratic Party", it puts the situation in (former) East Germany in some perspective. It's not exactly unprecedented. If Die Linke were to actually listen to their natural voter base (all the young liberals are going to the Greens anyway, no point in chasing after them) guarantee you they would take all of the AfD's support in the East
Yes, which is why the German Greens are polling in the low twenties
Well, of all the people I speak with from Germany, they generally attack me as saying "all the neo-nazis are in (modern) East Germany," so that's a bit ironic in my mind.
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