Yeah I also would not class a pescetarian diet as being a subset of vegetarianism, due to a fish being an animal, and not a fruit, vegetable, fungus, or animal product such as milk.
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by The New California Republic » Wed Feb 05, 2020 9:54 am
by Dakini » Wed Feb 05, 2020 2:31 pm
Aureumterra wrote:How exactly does being vegan help the environment?
by Dakini » Wed Feb 05, 2020 2:39 pm
Outer Sparta wrote:Vetalia wrote:Vegetarianism - no problem, it is a natural and historically attested diet that avoids many of the consequences of a meat-heavy diet that supplements with efficient products of agriculture like milk and eggs.
Veganism, though I have a problem with - if your diet requires you to take man-made vitamin supplements to prevent serious diseases of malnutrition to the point of potentially killing a child there is something seriously wrong with it. Like it or not, humans are omnivores and have adapted to a mixed diet of plant and animal products, even if those animal products do not require killing and consuming the animal in question. A strict vegan diet would be a death sentence from scurvy, beriberi or a host of other ailments before modern vitamins became available in the 20th century.
It's true that a vegan diet isn't attainable for babies and young children, in fact a vegan diet is very dangerous and will kill them. People that are fully grown can be vegans, though finding ways of getting enough vitamin B12 will be a challenge.
by Outer Sparta » Wed Feb 05, 2020 2:50 pm
Dakini wrote:Aureumterra wrote:How exactly does being vegan help the environment?
For starters, the carbon emissions associated with meat and dairy are way higher than those associated with other protein sources.
That's not even factoring in land and water usage (including the land and water used to grow crops such as soy which are then fed to the animals).
by SD_Film Artists » Wed Feb 05, 2020 3:03 pm
by Sensorland » Wed Feb 05, 2020 4:27 pm
by The Allied Tribe » Sat Mar 07, 2020 9:23 pm
Sensorland wrote:I'm what you might call an "incredibly hypocritical lacto-ovo-vegetarian". Hypocritical in that I continue to append the "lacto-ovo-" bit to the "vegetarian" bit, despite my fully agreeing with vegans that consumption of dairy and egg products is immoral. I do intend to rectify this (I have been seriously reducing my intake of both, and I intend on becoming fully vegan this year), but for now, I am an utter hypocrite.
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by The Alma Mater » Sat Mar 07, 2020 11:20 pm
Outer Sparta wrote:Dakini wrote:For starters, the carbon emissions associated with meat and dairy are way higher than those associated with other protein sources.
That's not even factoring in land and water usage (including the land and water used to grow crops such as soy which are then fed to the animals).
In-vitro meat uses 99% less land, 96% less water, and 96% less carbon emissions than traditional meat production.
by Risottia » Sun Mar 08, 2020 1:18 am
The Allied Tribe wrote:I am a lacto vegetarian, because I think that it is a way to help the environment by taking out meat, eggs, leather, and rennet, while it still has milk, honey, and cheese, which most people like to eat.
by The Allied Tribe » Sun Mar 08, 2020 9:12 am
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by Risottia » Tue Mar 10, 2020 2:27 am
by Bombadil » Tue Mar 10, 2020 2:30 am
by Risottia » Tue Mar 10, 2020 2:31 am
Bombadil wrote:Risottia wrote:
Define "need".
If you want to eat industrial processed quasi-cheese, I guess chemical substitutes for rennet are available.
If you want to eat healthy, traditional PDO cheese such as Parmigiano Reggiano...
When I was tootling around India back in the day I came across pineapple juice in a can that proudly proclaimed 'no natural ingredients contained!'
by Bombadil » Tue Mar 10, 2020 2:34 am
by Imperial Joseon » Sun Mar 15, 2020 3:21 am
by The Allied Tribe » Fri Mar 20, 2020 8:34 am
Imperial Joseon wrote:I drank soy milk and ate salads with chicken breasts for seven days, and then quit. SImply, it was quite hard for me to become a vegetarian. I don't think I can replicate this kind of habit.
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by The Grims » Fri Mar 20, 2020 11:45 am
The Allied Tribe wrote:Imperial Joseon wrote:I drank soy milk and ate salads with chicken breasts for seven days, and then quit. SImply, it was quite hard for me to become a vegetarian. I don't think I can replicate this kind of habit.
Some villages need meat to survive, and you don't live in those I'm guessing. However, you may be one of those people who like meat, and almost everybody here believes they would be suffering as a vegetarian.
by Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum » Fri Mar 20, 2020 12:10 pm
by The Allied Tribe » Fri Mar 20, 2020 2:36 pm
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by The Alma Mater » Sat Mar 21, 2020 12:18 am
by Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum » Sat Mar 21, 2020 9:50 am
Do you find the damage to private property right ? I think modern stunner are correct in slaughterhouses
by Third ZSeparatists » Sat Mar 21, 2020 9:53 am
Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum wrote:The Allied Tribe wrote:
We are not vegans.Do you find the damage to private property right ? I think modern stunner are correct in slaughterhousesThe Alma Mater wrote:Not a vegan, but vandalism is bad.
Of course, people with huge knives being afraid of some cowardly graffiti sprayers and calling that an attack is a tad bit silly.
But they have that right.
by Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum » Sat Mar 21, 2020 10:18 am
I'm not attacking anyone I just want to understand the Veganazis who fight someone else's rightful choice. We all have to be free talk and we can never find the right way by fighting each other
by Northern Astra » Sat Mar 21, 2020 11:00 am
Sensorland wrote:I'm what you might call an "incredibly hypocritical lacto-ovo-vegetarian". Hypocritical in that I continue to append the "lacto-ovo-" bit to the "vegetarian" bit, despite my fully agreeing with vegans that consumption of dairy and egg products is immoral. I do intend to rectify this (I have been seriously reducing my intake of both, and I intend on becoming fully vegan this year), but for now, I am an utter hypocrite.
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