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Rojava Free State
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Postby Rojava Free State » Mon Feb 03, 2020 6:58 am

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Well you must speak better English than I do then. My English skills when writing are far better than when I speak. When I write I come across like Charles Dickens. When I talk I sound like Caribbean trump. That's why I am very reluctant to go south. That and their conservative views which differ from mine so much that if we drew a venn diagram of their views and mine, the circles would be on separate planets


That's strange that you are better at writing. After 4 years of learning German I can speak very fluently but I suck at writing it.


It's like how I can understand French if someone speaks it but I can't speak French for shit. so my mom will try and go trilingual on me to say something about me to my dad, who also knows french, and I'll be like "WHAT DID YOU SAAAAAAY?!"
Rojava Free State wrote:Listen yall. I'm only gonna say it once but I want you to remember it. This ain't a world fit for good men. It seems like you gotta be monstrous just to make it. Gotta have a little bit of darkness within you just to survive. You gotta stoop low everyday it seems like. Stoop all the way down to the devil in these times. And then one day you look in the mirror and you realize that you ain't you anymore. You're just another monster, and thanks to your actions, someone else will eventually become as warped and twisted as you. Never forget that the best of us are just the best of a bad lot. Being at the top of a pile of feces doesn't make you anything but shit like the rest. Never forget that.

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Postby Red Roja » Mon Feb 03, 2020 12:44 pm

Rojava Free State wrote:
Red Roja wrote:Aside from my coworkers, the only person I have regular interaction with is my girlfriend. Aside from her, I have only a couple friends that I see every month or so. It doesn't help that my job keeps me busy and that my friends are also pretty busy. I was pretty lonely until I met my girlfriend 4 years ago and I haven't really felt alone since then thanks to her. We have been talking about marriage lately.


That takes me back to when me and my now ex girlfriend got engaged

You know I was so happy then. Life was hard but it felt like it was the struggle, like I was fighting the good fight for survival. Now I just feel like a caged bird. Things seem so much darker now, and our relationship ended in June when she left me, saying she was "tired."

I've since given up hope that I'll ever find a lasting relationship with anyone. As far as I can see it now,maybe I'll have a couple kids someday with one or may be two women, maybe I'll even find temporary success, but then one day the rug will be pulled out from under me, and my life will either physically end there or everyone will walk out on me and I'll eventually die alone. I really don't think things are gonna get much better than they are now.

In five years I may look successful, but I don't know if I'll feel that way.


:( Try to stay positive man. Cherish the friends you have and try your best to maintain said friendships. I know it can be difficult, but humans are social creatures that need companionship.
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Postby Geneviev » Mon Feb 03, 2020 4:29 pm

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Geneviev wrote:I can be lonely in America sometimes, seeing as English isn't my native language and it's a foreign culture. But I've been here long enough to get over the culture shock and then find friends, so it's not too bad anymore.

In Germany, on the other hand, a lot of my old friends hardly remember me and so it can be lonely when I visit. It's like being in a foreign country in my own home.


I feel the same way when I go back to Florida for a few weeks every year. Sometimes I get sad over stupid things like my old neighborhood gentrifying, like "are you kidding me, they finally put a new strip mall in the abandoned lot? That was my secret smoking spot as a teenager!" Every time I go back it feels less familiar, I lived there for my first 25 years and have been abroad for less than four.

And usually the first two days back in America I will order food in German and then I'll have a bewildered cashier staring at me and it takes me a few seconds to realize "oh, right, I'm in America."

Even with all of the time that I've been here, I still start sentences in German sometimes before correcting myself. But the worst thing is people from other parts of Germany or other German speaking countries correcting me when I say things like "Das ist mir."

It's weird looking at news from Germany, too. I don't know if that happens to you with America, but some names are unfamiliar or I don't know the context of something and that just feels strange. It should make more sense, being my home.
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Postby Rojava Free State » Mon Feb 03, 2020 4:49 pm

Red Roja wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:
That takes me back to when me and my now ex girlfriend got engaged

You know I was so happy then. Life was hard but it felt like it was the struggle, like I was fighting the good fight for survival. Now I just feel like a caged bird. Things seem so much darker now, and our relationship ended in June when she left me, saying she was "tired."

I've since given up hope that I'll ever find a lasting relationship with anyone. As far as I can see it now,maybe I'll have a couple kids someday with one or may be two women, maybe I'll even find temporary success, but then one day the rug will be pulled out from under me, and my life will either physically end there or everyone will walk out on me and I'll eventually die alone. I really don't think things are gonna get much better than they are now.

In five years I may look successful, but I don't know if I'll feel that way.


:( Try to stay positive man. Cherish the friends you have and try your best to maintain said friendships. I know it can be difficult, but humans are social creatures that need companionship.


There's no way I could be a true loner. One problem is I'm super talkative and it sucks when other people aren't interested in whatever I'm talking about, so it would suck if I had no one to talk to

I cracked a joke this morning about one of our co-workers having a work ethnic so low, it was down in hell playing strip poker with Mao, Stalin and Hitler, and while it made the guy walking past me die laughing, it didn't elicit any sort of response from the girl I was telling it too. I'm gonna keep it real with you all, I don't think she likes me and I think she only acts as civil as she does because the only alternative is to make a scene, so her not bitching me out doesn't mean anything
Rojava Free State wrote:Listen yall. I'm only gonna say it once but I want you to remember it. This ain't a world fit for good men. It seems like you gotta be monstrous just to make it. Gotta have a little bit of darkness within you just to survive. You gotta stoop low everyday it seems like. Stoop all the way down to the devil in these times. And then one day you look in the mirror and you realize that you ain't you anymore. You're just another monster, and thanks to your actions, someone else will eventually become as warped and twisted as you. Never forget that the best of us are just the best of a bad lot. Being at the top of a pile of feces doesn't make you anything but shit like the rest. Never forget that.

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Postby Red Roja » Mon Feb 03, 2020 6:28 pm

Rojava Free State wrote:
Red Roja wrote:
:( Try to stay positive man. Cherish the friends you have and try your best to maintain said friendships. I know it can be difficult, but humans are social creatures that need companionship.


There's no way I could be a true loner. One problem is I'm super talkative and it sucks when other people aren't interested in whatever I'm talking about, so it would suck if I had no one to talk to

I cracked a joke this morning about one of our co-workers having a work ethnic so low, it was down in hell playing strip poker with Mao, Stalin and Hitler, and while it made the guy walking past me die laughing, it didn't elicit any sort of response from the girl I was telling it too. I'm gonna keep it real with you all, I don't think she likes me and I think she only acts as civil as she does because the only alternative is to make a scene, so her not bitching me out doesn't mean anything


Yep, I have been down that road before :(
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Rojava Free State
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Postby Rojava Free State » Mon Feb 03, 2020 6:34 pm

Red Roja wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:
There's no way I could be a true loner. One problem is I'm super talkative and it sucks when other people aren't interested in whatever I'm talking about, so it would suck if I had no one to talk to

I cracked a joke this morning about one of our co-workers having a work ethnic so low, it was down in hell playing strip poker with Mao, Stalin and Hitler, and while it made the guy walking past me die laughing, it didn't elicit any sort of response from the girl I was telling it too. I'm gonna keep it real with you all, I don't think she likes me and I think she only acts as civil as she does because the only alternative is to make a scene, so her not bitching me out doesn't mean anything


Yep, I have been down that road before :(


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Rojava Free State wrote:Listen yall. I'm only gonna say it once but I want you to remember it. This ain't a world fit for good men. It seems like you gotta be monstrous just to make it. Gotta have a little bit of darkness within you just to survive. You gotta stoop low everyday it seems like. Stoop all the way down to the devil in these times. And then one day you look in the mirror and you realize that you ain't you anymore. You're just another monster, and thanks to your actions, someone else will eventually become as warped and twisted as you. Never forget that the best of us are just the best of a bad lot. Being at the top of a pile of feces doesn't make you anything but shit like the rest. Never forget that.

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Postby Major-Tom » Mon Feb 03, 2020 9:30 pm

I go through bouts of loneliness, but it's often circumstantial. I fluctuate a lot in terms of overall mood, some days manic, other days completely down in the gutter, and during those extremes I can feel quite lonely, regardless of who I'm dating, my friend group, etc etc. Ultimately, I've tried to make peace with the fact that I'm doing pretty well overall, and that loneliness is a feeling we all experience sometimes. I've got my health, friends, and a solid social life, so I shouldn't dwell too much on things.
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Postby Valkalan » Tue Feb 04, 2020 10:27 am

Rojava Free State wrote:Feels bad man

Don't worry about it. She either doesn't like you, or doesn't appreciate your sense of humor, which I'd take as a sign that she's not that compatible with you anyway. There are millions, upon millions, upon millions of ladies out there, and there's no use in getting worked up over one.
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Postby Luziyca » Tue Feb 04, 2020 12:20 pm

Not all that lonely here in Canada. But when the internet goes down, dear God do I get lonely.
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Postby Earthbound Immortal Squad » Tue Feb 04, 2020 1:12 pm

Rojava Free State wrote:Is there anyone else here who wants to be really open with their friends about their emotions, but doesn't know if they want to be because they're worried everyone would just think they were weird or were a pussy or something?

Shout if you have doubt


I can see your point. But I got to an understanding where if your friends won't listen to you, then they are not your friends simple as.
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Postby Drain City » Tue Feb 04, 2020 1:25 pm

I live in the US, more specifically Texas, DFW area.

I'm still in school, and I'm blessed to have great friends, an awesome girlfriend, and a family, all who love me very much and support me.

Regardless, because of the hostile nature of a very dense suburb between two vast, sprawling cities, its hard to not feel isolated and lonely. People aren't easy to approach, many people are armed, everyone is politically divisive to a certain extent. It's hard to feel connected with my community.

I don't know how this differs from other states, and I still feel incredibly lucky to be alive and have the people I have, but I think my environment is the biggest challenge to feeling less lonely. How about you guys? Do you feel your loneliness is contingent on your environment?

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Postby Ayytaly » Tue Feb 04, 2020 3:47 pm

Teach the newer generation to be friendlier to the school outcasts.

Otherwise...

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Postby DACOROMANIA » Tue Feb 04, 2020 4:10 pm

How lonely?
If talking of real life, then I'm the one of the most lonely on Earth, no wife, no friends and no family. I think that I'm the most lonely man on this planet.
My neighbors are "evil", my relatives are "evil" and the rest of people do not really care of other people than theirs.
Political plots everywhere, schools and hospitals still bad and the most of human society... is based on money rather than feelings. It's all about money as it was before and till now.
Many years ago orphanages were targeted for schools of thieves and prostitution by local mafias. In recent years these were changed a bit but many attempts still existing.
Have money, can live. Don't have money... it's life ending. Live or die. It's all about survival... and money.
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I'm so alone on Earth and I see how the world may fall into chaos. All looks irrational and immoral. It's a pain to not be able to do anything and to be surrounded by barbarians.

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Postby Cekoviu » Tue Feb 04, 2020 4:24 pm

Very, but more due to me putting effort into my career in lieu of having friendships or romances than my geographic location.
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Tue Feb 04, 2020 4:29 pm

DACOROMANIA wrote:How lonely?
If talking of real life, then I'm the one of the most lonely on Earth, no wife, no friends and no family. I think that I'm the most lonely man on this planet.
My neighbors are "evil", my relatives are "evil" and the rest of people do not really care of other people than theirs.
Political plots everywhere, schools and hospitals still bad and the most of human society... is based on money rather than feelings. It's all about money as it was before and till now.
Many years ago orphanages were targeted for schools of thieves and prostitution by local mafias. In recent years these were changed a bit but many attempts still existing.
Have money, can live. Don't have money... it's life ending. Live or die. It's all about survival... and money.


No meanness intended, isn’t there ways for you to go out and meet people who can potentially become friends, or a wife? Or do you also suffer from a crippling anxiety condition or any condition that makes socializing hard?
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Postby United Muscovite Nations » Tue Feb 04, 2020 4:32 pm

Cekoviu wrote:Very, but more due to me putting effort into my career in lieu of having friendships or romances than my geographic location.

Don't do that, you'll regret it when you're socially stunted.
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Postby Cekoviu » Tue Feb 04, 2020 4:39 pm

United Muscovite Nations wrote:
Cekoviu wrote:Very, but more due to me putting effort into my career in lieu of having friendships or romances than my geographic location.

Don't do that, you'll regret it when you're socially stunted.

I'm socially capable and I have friends, I just don't really hang out with them much. I'm not going to be stunted just because I'm trying to focus on a career (one of two major goals I wish to accomplish during my lifetime, the other being to land a beau).
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Postby Krasny-Volny » Tue Feb 04, 2020 4:40 pm

Join civic associations and clubs related to your hobbies and/or interests. Go to dances and other social events, great way to meet people outside your work circle. Find like-minded colleagues at work who share one or more of your interests and connect with them. Invite a ton of the people you work with out for drinks! Then go out as a group, make it a group event.

Most of all, you need to be on a team. I recommend team sports. Lots of adult men and women’s leagues for stuff like bowling, lacrosse, etc and some of them don’t care if you suck, it’s all about having a good time. Physical contact sports is especially good at building self-confidence and comraderie. Ladies, I recommend roller derby.

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Postby United Muscovite Nations » Tue Feb 04, 2020 4:58 pm

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United Muscovite Nations wrote:Don't do that, you'll regret it when you're socially stunted.

I'm socially capable and I have friends, I just don't really hang out with them much. I'm not going to be stunted just because I'm trying to focus on a career (one of two major goals I wish to accomplish during my lifetime, the other being to land a beau).

I would suggest focusing on both at once. I'm much happier after making progress towards romance than progress towards a career.
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Postby Cekoviu » Tue Feb 04, 2020 5:01 pm

United Muscovite Nations wrote:
Cekoviu wrote:I'm socially capable and I have friends, I just don't really hang out with them much. I'm not going to be stunted just because I'm trying to focus on a career (one of two major goals I wish to accomplish during my lifetime, the other being to land a beau).

I would suggest focusing on both at once. I'm much happier after making progress towards romance than progress towards a career.

Romance is not a viable option at this time for a number of reasons, the largest being that I am about a 5 on my best days. Or maybe I'm rationalizing. Ffs.
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Postby United Muscovite Nations » Tue Feb 04, 2020 5:06 pm

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United Muscovite Nations wrote:I would suggest focusing on both at once. I'm much happier after making progress towards romance than progress towards a career.

Romance is not a viable option at this time for a number of reasons, the largest being that I am about a 5 on my best days. Or maybe I'm rationalizing. Ffs.

Tbqh there are plenty of men that would be happy with a 5.
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Postby Nouveau Yathrib » Tue Feb 04, 2020 5:49 pm

From time to time? Yes. But I don't associate it with being in a certain country or not feeling included in the community where I live. It's just a part of life.

If you'd asked me this question when I was in high school, I probably would've answered differently.


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Otherwise...

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Postby Rojava Free State » Tue Feb 04, 2020 6:39 pm

Just found out my crush doesn't do much in her free time and doesn't have a boyfriend

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Rojava Free State wrote:Listen yall. I'm only gonna say it once but I want you to remember it. This ain't a world fit for good men. It seems like you gotta be monstrous just to make it. Gotta have a little bit of darkness within you just to survive. You gotta stoop low everyday it seems like. Stoop all the way down to the devil in these times. And then one day you look in the mirror and you realize that you ain't you anymore. You're just another monster, and thanks to your actions, someone else will eventually become as warped and twisted as you. Never forget that the best of us are just the best of a bad lot. Being at the top of a pile of feces doesn't make you anything but shit like the rest. Never forget that.

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Postby Cekoviu » Tue Feb 04, 2020 7:30 pm

United Muscovite Nations wrote:
Cekoviu wrote:Romance is not a viable option at this time for a number of reasons, the largest being that I am about a 5 on my best days. Or maybe I'm rationalizing. Ffs.

Tbqh there are plenty of men that would be happy with a 5.

I said that's my best. I'm a 3.5 usually. Also, like 99% of my peers are objectively hotter than me, I'm transgender, I'm not Mormon and am uncomfortable with dating Mormons (in Utah, remember), and I do not have really any disposable income. The only thing that I have going for me is that I'm fairly interesting and appreciate good humor.
I have tried flirting, but I have absolutely no idea if the guys with whom I've tried are interested or even picked up on it. And I'm way too nonconfrontational to actually flat-out ask someone on a date.
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Postby Rojava Free State » Tue Feb 04, 2020 7:37 pm

Cekoviu wrote:
United Muscovite Nations wrote:Tbqh there are plenty of men that would be happy with a 5.

I said that's my best. I'm a 3.5 usually. Also, like 99% of my peers are objectively hotter than me, I'm transgender, I'm not Mormon and am uncomfortable with dating Mormons (in Utah, remember), and I do not have really any disposable income. The only thing that I have going for me is that I'm fairly interesting and appreciate good humor.
I have tried flirting, but I have absolutely no idea if the guys with whom I've tried are interested or even picked up on it. And I'm way too nonconfrontational to actually flat-out ask someone on a date.


Being good looking isn't all its cracked up to be. I'd rate myself a good 7 or 8 on the attraction scale and while I love how I look, I can't stand a lot of other things about myself,like my forgetfulness, my easily irritable temper, my absent minded actions and my horrible anxiety
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Rojava Free State wrote:Listen yall. I'm only gonna say it once but I want you to remember it. This ain't a world fit for good men. It seems like you gotta be monstrous just to make it. Gotta have a little bit of darkness within you just to survive. You gotta stoop low everyday it seems like. Stoop all the way down to the devil in these times. And then one day you look in the mirror and you realize that you ain't you anymore. You're just another monster, and thanks to your actions, someone else will eventually become as warped and twisted as you. Never forget that the best of us are just the best of a bad lot. Being at the top of a pile of feces doesn't make you anything but shit like the rest. Never forget that.

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