Misconceptions or Questions about Islam and Muslims?

[Jolthig]

Women aren't treated as Property in Islam. There is no quranic verse or hadith that alludes to this.


Spousal rape is not a thing in Islam as it would contradict the Islamic concepts of chastity.


Although there was definitely slaves in Muhammad's time, he intended to abolish that practice slowly.

There is no verse or hadith that mention raping slave girls either.


There is no Quranic verse that supports this. If you bring up the hadith of "Ibn Abbas", that hadith is false because one of the narrators, Ikrima, was a slave of Ibn Abbas who later converted to the Khawarij, a hostile sect that brought chaos and disorder to Arabia, especially towards some of the first khalifas.


There is no such thing.

Quranic verse 60:8: Allah forbids you not, respecting those who have not fought against you on account of your religion, and who have not driven you forth from your homes, that you be kind to them and act equitably towards them; surely Allah loves those who are equitable.


Men and women are equal in Islam.

Quranic verse 16:98: Whoso acts righteously, whether male or female, and is a believer, We will surely grant him a pure life; and We will surely bestow on such their reward according to the best of their works.


Incorrect. As a matter of fact, in Surah al-Noor 24:6-8, a women's (which in this case is the wife of a husband) testimony is more than enough to prove their case. In al-Nisa 4:15, the testimony of 4 witnesses can be both male and female. There is no genders mentioned other than the fact it's gender neutral.

Now, let's go to the root of your allegation: The allegation this stems from is al-Baqarah 2:282:

And call two witnesses from among your men; and if two men be not available, then a man and two women, of such as you like as witnesses, so that if either of two women should err in memory,

In this case, this is regarding financial matters when a product is brought and sold or any other transaction: https://www.alislam.org/quran/2:283

The purpose of a second female witness is to assist the other female, who is the party involved in a financial matter, in helping to remember how the transaction was made whereas for a man, his own testimony is sufficient.

For more information: https://www.alislam.org/articles/2-fema ... e-witness/


Nope. Islam does not prescribe killing homosexuals either. Although yes, homosexuality is no doubt, a grave sin in Islam, there is no death penalty for it.

If these do not satisfy you, let us both go straight to the sources that we cite our arguments from, and let us put one another's knowledge of Islam to the test, shall we? Let's make this a good historical and political academic discussion for our audience to benefit from as I enjoy good discussions.

LOL. I’m not even Ahmadiyya and I use alislam sometimes.

I'd highly recommend Mirza Bashir Ahmad's Seal of Prophets book. I believe I provided it in my literature Factbook. Read it and it will change your life on Muhammad (saw)!

[Insaanistan]

LOL. I’m not even Ahmadiyya and I use alislam sometimes.

I'd highly recommend Mirza Bashir Ahmad's Seal of Prophets book. I believe I provided it in my literature Factbook. Read it and it will change your life on Muhammad (saw)!

I have no intention of become an Ahmadiyya, but I’ll read it!

[Rojava Free State]

Do Islamic cultures have any mythology regarding vampires?

[Jolthig]

I'd highly recommend Mirza Bashir Ahmad's Seal of Prophets book. I believe I provided it in my literature Factbook. Read it and it will change your life on Muhammad (saw)!

I have no intention of become an Ahmadiyya, but I’ll read it!

That's fine. We believe it is Allah himself who converts and not ourselves.

[Jolthig]

Do Islamic cultures have any mythology regarding vampires?

Not really as vampires aren't a thing in Islam.

[Rojava Free State]

Do Islamic cultures have any mythology regarding vampires?

Not really as vampires aren't a thing in Islam.

But are they really a thing in Christianity? A lot of Christians still thought they existed at one time

[Samudera Darussalam]

Do Islamic cultures have any mythology regarding vampires?

Well, it depend on the place, I guess? The Southeast Asian ones have those....not exactly vampires, but maybe close to those. Ever heard of Pontianak?
But then again it's a local thing that is believed by many local Muslims.


Also, I'm not sure why this thread has to be a separated thing from IDT

[Rojava Free State]

The Malaysian Penanggalan is a woman who obtained her beauty through the active use of black magic or other unnatural means, and is most commonly described in local folklore to be dark or demonic in nature. She is able to detach her fanged head which flies around in the night looking for blood, typically from pregnant women. Malaysians hung jeruju (thistles) around the doors and windows of houses, hoping the Penanggalan would not enter for fear of catching its intestines on the thorns. The Leyak is a similar being from Balinese folklore of Indonesia. A Kuntilanak or Matianak in Indonesia, or Pontianak or Langsuir in Malaysia, is a woman who died during childbirth and became undead, seeking revenge and terrorising villages. She appeared as an attractive woman with long black hair that covered a hole in the back of her neck, with which she sucked the blood of children. Filling the hole with her hair would drive her off. Corpses had their mouths filled with glass beads, eggs under each armpit, and needles in their palms to prevent them from becoming langsuir. This description would also fit the Sundel Bolongs.

So I went online and found this, which regards vampires in Malaysian and Indonesian culture. I know they're both Muslim although I mainly was wondering if middle easterners have any vampire folklore

[Insaanistan]

The Malaysian Penanggalan is a woman who obtained her beauty through the active use of black magic or other unnatural means, and is most commonly described in local folklore to be dark or demonic in nature. She is able to detach her fanged head which flies around in the night looking for blood, typically from pregnant women. Malaysians hung jeruju (thistles) around the doors and windows of houses, hoping the Penanggalan would not enter for fear of catching its intestines on the thorns. The Leyak is a similar being from Balinese folklore of Indonesia. A Kuntilanak or Matianak in Indonesia, or Pontianak or Langsuir in Malaysia, is a woman who died during childbirth and became undead, seeking revenge and terrorising villages. She appeared as an attractive woman with long black hair that covered a hole in the back of her neck, with which she sucked the blood of children. Filling the hole with her hair would drive her off. Corpses had their mouths filled with glass beads, eggs under each armpit, and needles in their palms to prevent them from becoming langsuir. This description would also fit the Sundel Bolongs.

So I went online and found this, which regards vampires in Malaysian and Indonesian culture. I know they're both Muslim although I mainly was wondering if middle easterners have any vampire folklore

While Malays and Indonesians are majority Muslim peoples, they still have their own culture and identity, and a significant amount, while definitely Sunni Muslims, incorporate Hindu and Buddhist practices, such as the belief eating an animal will give you its power, into their worship, because of the prevalence of Hindu and Buddhist kingdoms before they began to accept Islam.

[Insaanistan]

Do Islamic cultures have any mythology regarding vampires?

Well, it depend on the place, I guess? The Southeast Asian ones have those....not exactly vampires, but maybe close to those. Ever heard of Pontianak?
But then again it's a local thing that is believed by many local Muslims.


Also, I'm not sure why this thread has to be a separated thing from IDT

Hello,
Like I told our Ahmadiyya brother, I want this to be a thread specifically for questions and misconceptions about Islam, not Islamic discussion in general.

[Rojava Free State]

Well, it depend on the place, I guess? The Southeast Asian ones have those....not exactly vampires, but maybe close to those. Ever heard of Pontianak?
But then again it's a local thing that is believed by many local Muslims.


Also, I'm not sure why this thread has to be a separated thing from IDT

Hello,
Like I told our Ahmadiyya brother, I want this to be a thread specifically for questions and misconceptions about Islam, not Islamic discussion in general.

Ight, here's a better question. What is islam's opinion on christians? Since we're talking about misconceptions about islam, a lot of people (unfortunately) think Muslims hate christians. That's why I ask

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

Do Islamic cultures have any mythology regarding vampires?

Arabian ghouls are said to drink blood. Do remember that these are beings present in pretty much every folklore there is. Just not similar to Western depictions.

[Insaanistan]

Hello,
Like I told our Ahmadiyya brother, I want this to be a thread specifically for questions and misconceptions about Islam, not Islamic discussion in general.

Ight, here's a better question. What is islam's opinion on christians? Since we're talking about misconceptions about islam, a lot of people (unfortunately) think Muslims hate christians. That's why I ask

Christians and Jews are considered “Ahlul Kitaab”, People of the Book. Islam respects all faiths, but you see more Islamic-Christian and Judeo-Islamic tolerance due to there being a lack of most other religions in the Arabian peninsula and its surrounding areas at the time. In Surah al-Kafirun, the Qur’ân says, “Lakum deenakum wa li yadin” which means, “You have your faith/beliefs and I will have mine.”

[Rojava Free State]

Ight, here's a better question. What is islam's opinion on christians? Since we're talking about misconceptions about islam, a lot of people (unfortunately) think Muslims hate christians. That's why I ask

Christians and Jews are considered “Ahlul Kitaab”, People of the Book. Islam respects all faiths, but you see more Islamic-Christian and Judeo-Islamic tolerance due to there being a lack of most other religions in the Arabian peninsula and its surrounding areas at the time. In Surah al-Kafirun, the Qur’ân says, “Lakum deenakum wa li yadin” which means, “You have your faith/beliefs and I will have mine.”

Interesting

[Trollzyn the Infinite]

Ight, here's a better question. What is islam's opinion on christians? Since we're talking about misconceptions about islam, a lot of people (unfortunately) think Muslims hate christians. That's why I ask

Christians and Jews are considered “Ahlul Kitaab”, People of the Book. Islam respects all faiths, but you see more Islamic-Christian and Judeo-Islamic tolerance due to there being a lack of most other religions in the Arabian peninsula and its surrounding areas at the time. In Surah al-Kafirun, the Qur’ân says, “Lakum deenakum wa li yadin” which means, “You have your faith/beliefs and I will have mine.”

The Zoroastrians would beg to differ.

[Jolthig]

Christians and Jews are considered “Ahlul Kitaab”, People of the Book. Islam respects all faiths, but you see more Islamic-Christian and Judeo-Islamic tolerance due to there being a lack of most other religions in the Arabian peninsula and its surrounding areas at the time. In Surah al-Kafirun, the Qur’ân says, “Lakum deenakum wa li yadin” which means, “You have your faith/beliefs and I will have mine.”

The Zoroastrians would beg to differ.

Yeah, I'll have to agree with Trollzyn here. The Zoroastrians are considered part of the People of the Book since they have the Avesta with them.

Persia, for a while had Yemen as their province before the Arabs took it over if I remember correctly.

[Samudera Darussalam]

The Zoroastrians would beg to differ.

Yeah, I'll have to agree with Trollzyn here. The Zoroastrians are considered part of the People of the Book since they have the Avesta with them.

Persia, for a while had Yemen as their province before the Arabs took it over if I remember correctly.

Isn't it a Ethiopian territory? Or....is that before the Ethiopians came?

[Jolthig]

Yeah, I'll have to agree with Trollzyn here. The Zoroastrians are considered part of the People of the Book since they have the Avesta with them.

Persia, for a while had Yemen as their province before the Arabs took it over if I remember correctly.

Isn't it a Ethiopian territory? Or....is that before the Ethiopians came?

Yes, the Ethiopians had it for a while but then Yemen was transferred to Persia.

[New haven america]

Ight, here's a better question. What is islam's opinion on christians? Since we're talking about misconceptions about islam, a lot of people (unfortunately) think Muslims hate christians. That's why I ask

Christians and Jews are considered “Ahlul Kitaab”, People of the Book. Islam respects all faiths, but you see more Islamic-Christian and Judeo-Islamic tolerance due to there being a lack of most other religions in the Arabian peninsula and its surrounding areas at the time. In Surah al-Kafirun, the Qur’ân says, “Lakum deenakum wa li yadin” which means, “You have your faith/beliefs and I will have mine.”

Zoroastrians, Arab Jews, and Polythesitic Arabs disagree.

Hell, Islam's most important and sacred artifact, the Kaaba, wasn't originally Islamic, it was Polytheistic and created by the Nabataeans for the God Habul.

[Jolthig]

Christians and Jews are considered “Ahlul Kitaab”, People of the Book. Islam respects all faiths, but you see more Islamic-Christian and Judeo-Islamic tolerance due to there being a lack of most other religions in the Arabian peninsula and its surrounding areas at the time. In Surah al-Kafirun, the Qur’ân says, “Lakum deenakum wa li yadin” which means, “You have your faith/beliefs and I will have mine.”

Zoroastrians, Arab Jews, and Polythesitic Arabs disagree.

Hell, Islam's most important and sacred artifact, the Kaaba, wasn't originally Islamic, it was Polytheistic and created by the Nabataeans for the God Habul.

That is not so. Even according to pagan tradition, it was always believed according to Arab oral traditions as said by the Quraish themselves, even before converting to Islam, Abraham and Ishmael built the kaaba. The only other written book that talks of Abraham being a monotheist before the Quran is the book of Genesis in the Bible, and Ishmael is said to have founded the tribes of Kedar through his son with the same name.

Though Trollzyn and myself will have different historical interpretations on this subject, we do agree with Abraham was a prophet.

[Insaanistan]

Christians and Jews are considered “Ahlul Kitaab”, People of the Book. Islam respects all faiths, but you see more Islamic-Christian and Judeo-Islamic tolerance due to there being a lack of most other religions in the Arabian peninsula and its surrounding areas at the time. In Surah al-Kafirun, the Qur’ân says, “Lakum deenakum wa li yadin” which means, “You have your faith/beliefs and I will have mine.”

Zoroastrians, Arab Jews, and Polythesitic Arabs disagree.

Hell, Islam's most important and sacred artifact, the Kaaba, wasn't originally Islamic, it was Polytheistic and created by the Nabataeans for the God Habul.

Islam throws a wrench in that. We say Abraham and one of his sons built the Kaaba, but it was later used by polytheists. We use it because a prophet built it, not because we supposedly borrowed stuff from other religions.

[Insaanistan]

Isn't it a Ethiopian territory? Or....is that before the Ethiopians came?

Yes, the Ethiopians had it for a while but then Yemen was transferred to Persia.

As fatback as I know, Yemen was never Persian. There were Abyssinians there, but not Persians.

[Trollzyn the Infinite]

The Zoroastrians would beg to differ.

Yeah, I'll have to agree with Trollzyn here. The Zoroastrians are considered part of the People of the Book since they have the Avesta with them.

Persia, for a while had Yemen as their province before the Arabs took it over if I remember correctly.

I was referring more to the fact that Zoroastrians got shafted pretty hard when the Islamic conquests of Persia ended despite being in the same general vicinity as Jews and Christians to Arabia.

[US-SSR]

Chess Manuals

I'd have to check HJR Murray to be perfectly exact but iirc Arab/Muslim students of the Royal Game did systematize the openings and collected many problems. But it was the Italians who developed and introduced the modern game, turning the elephant (al-fil) from al-shatranj (and the earlier Indian chaturanga), that jumped into the second square diagonally, into the bishop that controlled all squares on the diagonal and the vizir, with a diagonal one-square move, into the powerful Queen that we know and love.

But does anyone play the old al-shatranj any more? And is chessplaying strictly halal? Again iirc there was some controversy about that.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

Yes, the Ethiopians had it for a while but then Yemen was transferred to Persia.

As fatback as I know, Yemen was never Persian. There were Abyssinians there, but not Persians.

What about the Sasanian period?