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Postby Jebslund » Sun Feb 02, 2020 7:46 pm

United Muscovite Nations wrote:
Andsed wrote:What nonsense. There is nothing wrong with just enjoying things. Not everything has to have a deeper meaning.

What is there to enjoy if not deeper meaning?

Sorry for late reply, was on a date.

Quite a bit, if you're willing to just relax and enjoy things as they are, and not spend all your time obsessively searching for some deeper meaning. Sometimes the curtains are just blue because it was a nice-looking color that tied the room together.
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Postby Rojava Free State » Sun Feb 02, 2020 8:49 pm

Diopolis wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:
Let's be real here for a second. There is nothing hotter than having a chick around who you aren't particularly close with but who still is giving up the head.

I tried the romance approach. Maybe it works for some people, and good for them, but while I may notice certain character traits about a woman that I like or respect, I don't really get into these deep feelings anymore. Idk, I'm also the guy who gets severe injuries like a nail through my foot or a fractured knee or a collapse lung and I don't even bother going to the hospital, so don't take my word for whether casual sex is good or not without a grain of salt. Make up your own mind in the end

That sounds disgusting. Although, to be fair, a woman you know won't have sex with you but who has a strong romantic attraction still feels amazing to be around.


As I said, I'm a guy who ends up with life threatening injuries and doesn't bother going to the ER, so it's just how I feel. It's not a fact. Just an opinion. Definitely not the word of a God
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Postby Crockerland » Sun Feb 02, 2020 8:53 pm

United Muscovite Nations wrote:
Gormwood wrote:God forbid a liberal who isn't a supermodel has the nerve to actually have a sex life. Probably has more than most posters on the forum.

People should only have a sex life in the context of a committed, monogamous relationship.

Very true. Sex should be an expression of intimacy towards your partner.
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Postby Gormwood » Sun Feb 02, 2020 8:58 pm

Rojava Free State wrote:
Gormwood wrote:So only sappy Harlequin Romance novel sex is allowed?


There's two portrayals of sex that you find in pop culture and that is the one you listed and porn. Reality is halfway in between the two

Porn is for the most part like what the late Robin Williams said, "an industrial film covered in fur." Or a naked gymnastics routine missing the commentary on techniques and a 3-judge panel.
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Champagne Socialist Sharifistan
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Postby Champagne Socialist Sharifistan » Mon Feb 03, 2020 12:24 am

Galloism wrote:
Saranidia wrote:Where did rape come into it(only watched the start). Still the the minimum age for sex should be 16.
That said Cenk objectifies women(not in that video but in other things) and says things against Nissan.

Kid in question is 14. She raped a kid. He defended it. Even by your own standard of 16, she raped him.

I think intercourse with under 16’s is wrong but not necessarily rape.
Similar to how some states have corruption of a minor charges instead of rape charges for underage stuff.
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Postby Champagne Socialist Sharifistan » Mon Feb 03, 2020 12:33 am

In California it’s a seperate crime:
http://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces ... nNum=261.5.
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Postby Kaltovar » Mon Feb 03, 2020 12:38 am

I've only had socialism be an obstacle in sex once, and only because I couldn't stop myself from openly mocking the aggressively stupid take on their dating profile. (Yes, a person felt the need to educate others on Marxism on their dating profile.)

They named themselves after Merrick Garland and were pretending to be a "Socialist lawyer" despite not being registered as a lawyer. On their dating profile they were going on and on about how the 'System of legal norms was being violated' which coming from a Socialist made me want to slam my head into a refrigerator door until the pain went away and I could bask in the sweet embrace of death.

Any socialist that's not just some insufferable College Commie doesn't and shouldn't give a damn about a system of legal norms which they believe was constructed entirely to oppress the lower classes. I haven't been a socialist in years and even I remember that. It's basically the first thing you learn about Marxism: Screw the shitty fake rules invented by oligarchs to dominate us.

Anyways yeah ... I'd hardly say that boinking them sometimes means I "love socialists", it's more like "I love people and can separate their politics from their pants".
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Postby Saranidia » Mon Feb 03, 2020 12:56 am

United Muscovite Nations wrote:
Gormwood wrote:God forbid a liberal who isn't a supermodel has the nerve to actually have a sex life. Probably has more than most posters on the forum.

People should only have a sex life in the context of a committed, monogamous relationship.

I think there should be a loving, long-term relationship but only the woman has to be monogamous.
Of course they should respect each other’s feelings but if the woman accepts her husband’s/boyfriend’s other wives/girlfriends respectively, who cares?
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Postby Page » Mon Feb 03, 2020 3:27 am

Going after Joy Behar for her personal appearance and her sex life is silly and immature. What she should be called out for is being an establishment shill and a liar.
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Postby New haven america » Mon Feb 03, 2020 3:32 am

Page wrote:Going after Joy Behar for her personal appearance and her sex life is silly and immature. What she should be called out for is being an establishment shill and a liar.

Were you expecting better from a site full of mostly lonely 20 year olds who spend their time pretending to run countries?
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Nolo gap
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Postby Nolo gap » Mon Feb 03, 2020 3:35 am

celebraties aren't celebate? oh the humanity.

every religion was started by a socialist, and people who hate logic seem to think its a dirty word to tar everyone who
isn't opposed to governments earning their keep. don't know anything about this happy bear person though.
this is the furst i hurd her name. or i infer from the mannor of discussion that the individual under disection is famale.

are the magic schelpils of the male persuasion who expect (and i'm sorry but they're mistaken) letting little green piecs of paper get away with murder,
to somehow deregulate the private life of the individual?

some of my best friends hate logic too, but the business of business is monkey business,
and its not the little green pieces of paper that are unhappy.
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Postby Sapporo Hyperspace Riftgate Laboratory » Mon Feb 03, 2020 3:41 am

New haven america wrote:
Page wrote:Going after Joy Behar for her personal appearance and her sex life is silly and immature. What she should be called out for is being an establishment shill and a liar.

Were you expecting better from a site full of mostly lonely 20 year olds who spend their time pretending to run countries?

More like 15 year olds or hell, 13 year olds.
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Postby Heloin » Mon Feb 03, 2020 3:55 am

Sapporo Hyperspace Riftgate Laboratory wrote:
New haven america wrote:Were you expecting better from a site full of mostly lonely 20 year olds who spend their time pretending to run countries?

More like 15 year olds or hell, 13 year olds.

Don’t remind your elders of that.

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Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Myrensis » Mon Feb 03, 2020 4:28 am

Rojava Free State wrote:
Saiwania wrote:I don't see many Incels wanting to be with Joy Behar. Then again, if someone closes their eyes; it might not be such a big deal. I don't know why it is, but the Conservative women on average, seem to be more physically attractive than the Liberal women within US media. It is true enough to be a stereotype and meme.


The conservative women tend to take better care of themselves and value their looks while liberals view attractive appearance as a patriarchal form of oppression

Maybe, idk, it's my best guess as to why that is


Or that the men in charge of conservative media enjoy their eye candy.

See: Roger Ailes

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Postby Gormwood » Mon Feb 03, 2020 7:08 am

Myrensis wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:
The conservative women tend to take better care of themselves and value their looks while liberals view attractive appearance as a patriarchal form of oppression

Maybe, idk, it's my best guess as to why that is


Or that the men in charge of conservative media enjoy their eye candy.

See: Roger Ailes

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Postby Saranidia » Mon Feb 03, 2020 8:02 am

Page wrote:Going after Joy Behar for her personal appearance and her sex life is silly and immature. What she should be called out for is being an establishment shill and a liar.

Personal appearance is dumb.

But why can’t she be judged for her actions?
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Postby Ethel mermania » Mon Feb 03, 2020 8:04 am

Saranidia wrote:
Page wrote:Going after Joy Behar for her personal appearance and her sex life is silly and immature. What she should be called out for is being an establishment shill and a liar.

Personal appearance is dumb.

But why can’t she be judged for her actions?

What action is being called out here?
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Postby Andsed » Mon Feb 03, 2020 8:24 am

Saranidia wrote:
Page wrote:Going after Joy Behar for her personal appearance and her sex life is silly and immature. What she should be called out for is being an establishment shill and a liar.

Personal appearance is dumb.

But why can’t she be judged for her actions?

Because someone having consenting sex(casual or not) is their own damm business and not something that is worthy of being called out? Seems quite simple to me.
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Postby Gormwood » Mon Feb 03, 2020 9:07 am

Andsed wrote:
Saranidia wrote:Personal appearance is dumb.

But why can’t she be judged for her actions?

Because someone having consenting sex(casual or not) is their own damm business and not something that is worthy of being called out? Seems quite simple to me.

Puritannical prude engages in slut shaming. Shit bears in woods, Catholic is Pope.
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Postby Saranidia » Mon Feb 03, 2020 9:13 am

Gormwood wrote:
Andsed wrote:Because someone having consenting sex(casual or not) is their own damm business and not something that is worthy of being called out? Seems quite simple to me.

Puritannical prude engages in slut shaming. Shit bears in woods, Catholic is Pope.

“Prude” is entirely subjective thus making it useless in debates.
“Purritanical” I’m not puritanical I think a man can have sex with up to 4 people for mutual pleasure(They just have to marry them first) and I engage in many types of self-indulgence(I appreciate art, good food, good music etc.)
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Postby Ethel mermania » Mon Feb 03, 2020 9:17 am

Saranidia wrote:
Gormwood wrote:Puritannical prude engages in slut shaming. Shit bears in woods, Catholic is Pope.

“Prude” is entirely subjective thus making it useless in debates.
“Purritanical” I’m not puritanical I think a man can have sex with up to 4 people for mutual pleasure(They just have to marry them first) and I engage in many types of self-indulgence(I appreciate art, good food, good music etc.)

If it's not the 4 women at the same time, you are s prude
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Postby Diopolis » Mon Feb 03, 2020 9:18 am

Andsed wrote:
Saranidia wrote:Personal appearance is dumb.

But why can’t she be judged for her actions?

Because someone having consenting sex(casual or not) is their own damm business and not something that is worthy of being called out? Seems quite simple to me.

As has been explained before, a hookup culture and a culture of committed monogamy are mutually exclusive, so if a body supports committed monogamy, then logically casual sex should be condemned. It’s an individualist-corporatist distinction
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Postby Crockerland » Mon Feb 03, 2020 9:19 am

Gormwood wrote:
Andsed wrote:Because someone having consenting sex(casual or not) is their own damm business and not something that is worthy of being called out? Seems quite simple to me.

Puritannical prude engages in slut shaming. Shit bears in woods, Catholic is Pope.

Slut shaming is a good thing though.
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Postby Ethel mermania » Mon Feb 03, 2020 9:21 am

Crockerland wrote:
Gormwood wrote:Puritannical prude engages in slut shaming. Shit bears in woods, Catholic is Pope.

Slut shaming is a good thing though.

No it isnt.
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Postby Champagne Socialist Sharifistan » Mon Feb 03, 2020 9:23 am

Ethel mermania wrote:
Crockerland wrote:Slut shaming is a good thing though.

No it isnt.

It’s freedom of speech.
Defending sluts is also freedom of speech.
Why does someone disagreeing with you upset you so much?
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