Why the us should cut useless courses from college degrees.

[Kubra]

Least they know the issues bro
went the university for that shit

No they probably don't. If you're dumb enough to do that I doubt you know the issues. Just because you went to university doesn't mean you're intelligent. It means you can hang a piece of paper on your wall. Memorizing facts long enough to pass a test doesn't mean you know something. I can recite the definition of a main sequence star. Doesn't mean I have knowledge of astronomy.

It doesn't mean your intelligent, but it does mean you've spent hours a day for a few years having to work on this shit full time, and that means something yo.
I don't want to go to school at your school, man. Pretty sure most of my uni time was spent writing and researching for papers, rather than repeating rote. This sounds more like a you problem, or a where-you-are problem.

[Totenborg]

You're talking with the confidence of someone who hasn't had to struggle financially in a long term situation. Being so poor that you can't afford coffee is some rough shit. If you're that poor, screw coffee, you're barely paying for gas to get to work. Additionally, an emergency is gonna wipe you out. Nobody should be acting like that's in any way a good path.

But I have. I survived it, there's no reason others cant. And if you're too poor to afford gas, then walk. Humans have legs.

Just walk, huh? Well, I guess poor folks in the woods are just shit outta luck, huh?

[The Republic of Fore]

Before you go to a military recruiter, be sure that you'll be able to pass a physical and mentally prepare yourself for that sort of life.

Any number of things could disqualify you from military service. I'm not quite as bad off as Clone Trooper 99 from Star Wars but the idea is similar- I do not meet the absolute minimum vision requirement of 20/20 in one eye, and 20/400 in the other eye.

The dream of any formal military service is forever denied to me.

If you're in the military, you're probably going to go overseas to places like Japan, Korea, England, and France. Beware of any calamities, and if you're staying in the Pacific theatre, beware of the coronavirus. Try not to travel close to the Yellow Sea, which is close to China, if you're traveling by plane or ship.

That's part of the reason I want to join. Free travel. I'm not overly paranoid about the coronavirus.

[Cannot think of a name]

And if they live outside of reasonable walking distance for their job?

The average human can walk 100 miles in a day. If your job is over 100 miles away you have bigger issues. And hey, America might not have such an obesity problem if a few more people walked an extra two miles to work. But even then, busses exist.

You wanna back that one up, give it a consider and try again?

I'll give you a hint at where you might have gone wrong, just in case. The average walking speed is three miles an hour. Subtracting an eight our work day, that's sixteen hours left. I'll give you some time with those figures, you get back to us.

[Imperial Joseon]

But I have. I survived it, there's no reason others cant. And if you're too poor to afford gas, then walk. Humans have legs.

Just walk, huh? Well, I guess poor folks in the woods are just shit outta luck, huh?

Walk a distance that takes thirty minutes via driving. Nice.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

Still tho guys there might legit be some courses that could perhaps be trimmed without too much consternation.
I mean midwifery always seemed like a dubious bachelors degree to me, I mean it's not that it doesn't pay but as far as childbirth professionals go it's the one that strikes me as, well, kind of niche.

I can understand not asking a med student to take, say, philosophy of history, because they will more than likely not need it for their job. But there are certain courses that probably, for what I’ve seen, should be mandatory. Teach people to write coherently, to spell (because yes, there are college level students who can’t spell to save their lives), for example. Basic biology and physics too. And yes, a semester of philosophy wouldn’t hurt.

[Totenborg]

The average human can walk 100 miles in a day. If your job is over 100 miles away you have bigger issues. And hey, America might not have such an obesity problem if a few more people walked an extra two miles to work. But even then, busses exist.

You wanna back that one up, give it a consider and try again?

I'll give you a hint at where you might have gone wrong, just in case. The average walking speed is three miles an hour. Subtracting an eight our work day, that's sixteen hours left. I'll give you some time with those figures, you get back to us.

If you pull hard enough on your bootstraps you can speed up time.

[Cannot think of a name]

The average human can walk 100 miles in a day. If your job is over 100 miles away you have bigger issues. And hey, America might not have such an obesity problem if a few more people walked an extra two miles to work. But even then, busses exist.

If you're walking fifty miles each way to and from work, how long is is that timewise? Does that leave time for extracurricular activities, sleep, etc.?

Because I'm sure people don't want to live solely to work.

And not every place has a good mass transit network. Austin, iirc, is a large city that doesn't have one and the voters refuse to vote to implement one

That kind of surprises me about Austin. They seem like they'd be all about public transportation, but like want it to be all pre-war streetcars or something.


...I obviously have a very limited understanding of Austin.

[Kubra]

Still tho guys there might legit be some courses that could perhaps be trimmed without too much consternation.
I mean midwifery always seemed like a dubious bachelors degree to me, I mean it's not that it doesn't pay but as far as childbirth professionals go it's the one that strikes me as, well, kind of niche.

Yeah, and or encouraged to be studied at cheaper universities. Johns Hopkins, a school that can cost 70 grand a year offers a degree in agriculture systems. What sort of job does that degree offer that could pay off nearly 300 grand in student loans?

whoa-ho-ho there buddy boy don't fuck with agriculture, this is a trillion dollar industry in the US.

[The Republic of Fore]

But I have. I survived it, there's no reason others cant. And if you're too poor to afford gas, then walk. Humans have legs.

Just walk, huh? Well, I guess poor folks in the woods are just shit outta luck, huh?

Now you're just reaching. How many people just live out in the woods? That aren't retired, or employed in a field that puts them there.

[Imperial Joseon]

Yeah, and or encouraged to be studied at cheaper universities. Johns Hopkins, a school that can cost 70 grand a year offers a degree in agriculture systems. What sort of job does that degree offer that could pay off nearly 300 grand in student loans?

whoa-ho-ho there buddy boy don't fuck with agriculture, this is a trillion dollar industry in the US.

Yeah, all that arable land in California.

[Cannot think of a name]

Yeah, and or encouraged to be studied at cheaper universities. Johns Hopkins, a school that can cost 70 grand a year offers a degree in agriculture systems. What sort of job does that degree offer that could pay off nearly 300 grand in student loans?

whoa-ho-ho there buddy boy don't fuck with agriculture, this is a trillion dollar industry in the US.

What kind of money is in agricultural systems? Laughs in Monsanto...

Actually, now that I think about it, one of the richest cats I know from my high school got that way by developing ag techniques. I haven't thought about that dude in a while, I wonder what he's up to...

[Kubra]

Still tho guys there might legit be some courses that could perhaps be trimmed without too much consternation.
I mean midwifery always seemed like a dubious bachelors degree to me, I mean it's not that it doesn't pay but as far as childbirth professionals go it's the one that strikes me as, well, kind of niche.

I can understand not asking a med student to take, say, philosophy of history, because they will more than likely not need it for their job. But there are certain courses that probably, for what I’ve seen, should be mandatory. Teach people to write coherently, to spell (because yes, there are college level students who can’t spell to save their lives), for example. Basic biology and physics too. And yes, a semester of philosophy wouldn’t hurt.

And that's the thing: maybe I'm just generalising my experience across the board, but I'm *pretty* sure that's how it works. You ain't taking a half-bachelor in performance art, you're just taking a varied set of mostly introductory-level courses.

[Jebslund]

Irrelevant one in a million? Try telling that to people with tech and engineering degrees who went to school when those jobs were in high demand and graduated just after those jobs got primarily outsourced to India. Tell that to the people who started med school because nurses and doctors were in high demand, but found out on graduating that those positions had since either been filled or dried up. Try telling that to people who studied architecture before the housing bubble burst. It happens more than you think.

Nurses and doctors haven't been filled or dried up. At least not stateside. There's a huge shortage of them. And people are still getting jobs with tech and engineering degrees. And the housing bubble is over. Even considering all of those, It's still their problem.

Depends on where you are stateside. As for people still getting jobs in tech and engineering, there are far less than there were before outsourcing became the status quo. The housing crisis may have passed, but that doesn't help the people who couldn't get decent jobs because they had invested in what showed few, if any, signs of slowing down and that meant job security and good pay.

As for it still being their problem, how the hell were they to know that, just before they graduated, their jobs would dry up? Your argument was that they were incompetent. Mine is that they were not.

[Cannot think of a name]

Just walk, huh? Well, I guess poor folks in the woods are just shit outta luck, huh?

Now you're just reaching. How many people just live out in the woods? That aren't retired, or employed in a field that puts them there.

Dude, you can't throw out something like "a human being is capable of walking 100 miles a day" and accuse other of reaching.

[Kubra]

whoa-ho-ho there buddy boy don't fuck with agriculture, this is a trillion dollar industry in the US.

Yeah, all that arable land in California.

Yeah, unironically. 50 billion in revenue in 2018, bro.
if ya'll wanna belittle food maybe ya'll should consider college.

[Totenborg]

Just walk, huh? Well, I guess poor folks in the woods are just shit outta luck, huh?

Now you're just reaching. How many people just live out in the woods? That aren't retired, or employed in a field that puts them there.

Quite a few people live in rural areas. Hell, I live in the woods. It isn't reaching to understand that some folks plain don't live within walking distance of jobs, schools, and amenities. We don't all live in big cities with public transportation.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

I can understand not asking a med student to take, say, philosophy of history, because they will more than likely not need it for their job. But there are certain courses that probably, for what I’ve seen, should be mandatory. Teach people to write coherently, to spell (because yes, there are college level students who can’t spell to save their lives), for example. Basic biology and physics too. And yes, a semester of philosophy wouldn’t hurt.

And that's the thing: maybe I'm just generalising my experience across the board, but I'm *pretty* sure that's how it works. You ain't taking a half-bachelor in performance art, you're just taking a varied set of mostly introductory-level courses.

That’s how it worked at my university. Can’t speak for the US much, though, as I didn’t go to uni there.

[Imperial Joseon]

Yeah, all that arable land in California.

Yeah, unironically. 50 billion in revenue in 2018, bro.
if ya'll wanna belittle food maybe ya'll should consider college.

I wholeheartedly agree. I'd rather get financial aid, get a small amount of student loan, apply for bursaries, and go to college.

[Kubra]

whoa-ho-ho there buddy boy don't fuck with agriculture, this is a trillion dollar industry in the US.

What kind of money is in agricultural systems? Laughs in Monsanto...

Actually, now that I think about it, one of the richest cats I know from my high school got that way by developing ag techniques. I haven't thought about that dude in a while, I wonder what he's up to...

Aw you know how it is, folks think of agriculture as if it's still tenant farmers out of a Steinbeck novel instead of downtown paper pushers having meetings about Q3 turnip yields.

[The Republic of Fore]

The average human can walk 100 miles in a day. If your job is over 100 miles away you have bigger issues. And hey, America might not have such an obesity problem if a few more people walked an extra two miles to work. But even then, busses exist.

You wanna back that one up, give it a consider and try again?

I'll give you a hint at where you might have gone wrong, just in case. The average walking speed is three miles an hour. Subtracting an eight our work day, that's sixteen hours left. I'll give you some time with those figures, you get back to us.

Yeah that's a math mistake on my part. But okay, even then. You can walk 48 miles in 16 hours. Why do you live 48 miles from your job? I'd be willing to bet the vast majority of people don't live half of that distance. Maybe 10 miles.

[Kubra]

Yeah, unironically. 50 billion in revenue in 2018, bro.
if ya'll wanna belittle food maybe ya'll should consider college.

I wholeheartedly agree. I'd rather get financial aid, get a small amount of student loan, apply for bursaries, and go to college.

I mean you wanna make it in the soybean game you pretty much gotta

[The Republic of Fore]

The average human can walk 100 miles in a day. If your job is over 100 miles away you have bigger issues. And hey, America might not have such an obesity problem if a few more people walked an extra two miles to work. But even then, busses exist.

If you're walking fifty miles each way to and from work, how long is is that timewise? Does that leave time for extracurricular activities, sleep, etc.?

Because I'm sure people don't want to live solely to work.

And not every place has a good mass transit network. Austin, iirc, is a large city that doesn't have one and the voters refuse to vote to implement one

Still sounds like their problem. What the hell do you do if you live 50 miles from work?

[The Republic of Fore]

Now you're just reaching. How many people just live out in the woods? That aren't retired, or employed in a field that puts them there.

Quite a few people live in rural areas. Hell, I live in the woods. It isn't reaching to understand that some folks plain don't live within walking distance of jobs, schools, and amenities. We don't all live in big cities with public transportation.

And that's their problem. The vast majority of Americans don't live in the woods, It's not 1920.

[Kubra]

Oh yeah scrolling through one of the uni's programs list, we could probably strike off le Baccalauréat en Éducation élémentaire. Very important subject, very important, not so much en français. Pretty sure the local french schools import their teachers.