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Who do you think will win South Carolina?

Sanders
27
59%
Warren
0
No votes
Biden
18
39%
Buttigieg
0
No votes
Klobuchar
1
2%
Steyer
0
No votes
 
Total votes : 46

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Postby Nazeroth » Mon Jan 27, 2020 11:15 pm

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Because he literally says the only reason he was on that board is "probably" because of his dad

and not only that, he has zero experience and is making fat cash, dosn't speak ukrainian and happend to be appointed a top position at an oil company known for curruption in a known currupt country.

You would have to have some kind of mental disablity to think Joe Biden didn't have any interest in that

and Bernie should have called him out for corporate curruption, but hes a cuck so he sat back down like he did with Hillary Clinton.


OMG. To think there are board members in the US who get paid a great deal for doing little or simply have name recognition.

Speculation is not evidence. Have any real proof?


You know what your right, it's totally legit that hunter biden happend to be on the board of a ukrainian oil company ran by a currupt oligarch in a country known to be hilariously currupt

nothing to see here folks...
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Postby Galloism » Mon Jan 27, 2020 11:15 pm

Nazeroth wrote:
Galloism wrote:I am curious why you think a family member being on a corporate board of a pretty shady corporation makes YOU corrupt.

Ivanka Trump was on the board of Signature bank, that was sued a few years ago for participating in a Ponzi scheme. Is that proof trump is corrupt?



Because he literally says the only reason he was on that board is "probably" because of his dad

and not only that, he has zero experience and is making fat cash, dosn't speak ukrainian and happend to be appointed a top position at an oil company known for curruption in a known currupt country.

You would have to have some kind of mental disablity to think Joe Biden didn't have any interest in that

and Bernie should have called him out for corporate curruption, but hes a cuck so he sat back down like he did with Hillary Clinton.

So the Ivanka, who knew nothing about banking, being on the board of a Bank probably largely due to her father’s business dealings with the bank, a bank later sued for participating in a Ponzi scheme, is proof that Trump is corrupt?
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Postby Nazeroth » Mon Jan 27, 2020 11:17 pm

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the point is that he is a spineless idealist

he can't even give a speech without some loud mouths taking over his microphone before he sat back down and jerked it in the corner.

He would be SHREDDED by world leaders, imagine Sanders trying to deal with the chinese or russians? they would devour his ass.

A refusal to talk about Hunter Biden is somehow what makes Bernie spineless. Yeah, okay.


his refusal to bring up extremley sketchy behavior makes him spineless and he is by track record, a loser, over and over. What has he DONE?

and im saying this not as a personal attack on him, im saying he is literally a cuck and a loser, in a literal sense.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Mon Jan 27, 2020 11:17 pm

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The Black Forrest wrote:
OMG. To think there are board members in the US who get paid a great deal for doing little or simply have name recognition.

Speculation is not evidence. Have any real proof?


You know what your right, it's totally legit that hunter biden happend to be on the board of a ukrainian oil company ran by a currupt oligarch in a country known to be hilariously currupt

nothing to see here folks...


What crimes has Hunter committed? What crimes has Joe biden committed?
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Postby Telconi » Mon Jan 27, 2020 11:17 pm

Galloism wrote:
Nazeroth wrote:
if your whole thing is "greedy corporations are the problem and we need to fight them" and you excuse Biden's obvious corruption, your fucking spineless.

I am curious why you think a family member being on a corporate board of a pretty shady corporation makes YOU corrupt.

Ivanka Trump was on the board of Signature bank, that was sued a few years ago for participating in a Ponzi scheme. Is that proof trump is corrupt?


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Postby Idzequitch » Mon Jan 27, 2020 11:17 pm

Nazeroth wrote:
Pasong Tirad wrote:Whether or not what Bernie does makes you erect is hardly the point.


the point is that he is a spineless idealist

he can't even give a speech without some loud mouths taking over his microphone before he sat back down and jerked it in the corner.

He would be SHREDDED by world leaders, imagine Sanders trying to deal with the chinese or russians? they would devour his ass.

It's called common decency and choosing your battles. Sanders is fiery, but he saves that fire for the situations that actually matter. Some of us prefer that over ripping the head off of anything that inconveniences you a la Trump.

Also holy crap I'm actually defending Bernie Sanders. What has this world come to?
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Postby USS Monitor » Mon Jan 27, 2020 11:18 pm

Nazeroth wrote:
Nobel Hobos 2 wrote:
Well he'll have time to go negative if he gets the nomination. For now he (and the other candidates) have to politely disagree with each other if necessary but not fight out their differences in public.

Nazeroth's interest in seeing an all-in argument between the frontrunners, is obviously not the interest of Democrats.


I would say AOC has done enough of that already by not paying her party due and literally saying she will run opposing candidates against other dems.

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AOC is a putz. That's not news.
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Postby Nazeroth » Mon Jan 27, 2020 11:18 pm

Galloism wrote:
Nazeroth wrote:

Because he literally says the only reason he was on that board is "probably" because of his dad

and not only that, he has zero experience and is making fat cash, dosn't speak ukrainian and happend to be appointed a top position at an oil company known for curruption in a known currupt country.

You would have to have some kind of mental disablity to think Joe Biden didn't have any interest in that

and Bernie should have called him out for corporate curruption, but hes a cuck so he sat back down like he did with Hillary Clinton.

So the Ivanka, who knew nothing about banking, being on the board of a Bank probably largely due to her father’s business dealings with the bank, a bank later sued for participating in a Ponzi scheme, is proof that Trump is corrupt?



was Trump president?

How the fuck are the you Vice President, your son gets on this currupt companies board and you go on live TV and talk about firing the prosecuture?

all politics aside, really? wtf?
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Postby Pasong Tirad » Mon Jan 27, 2020 11:19 pm

Nazeroth wrote:
Pasong Tirad wrote:A refusal to talk about Hunter Biden is somehow what makes Bernie spineless. Yeah, okay.


his refusal to bring up extremley sketchy behavior makes him spineless and he is by track record, a loser, over and over. What has he DONE?

and im saying this not as a personal attack on him, im saying he is literally a cuck and a loser, in a literal sense.

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Postby Nazeroth » Mon Jan 27, 2020 11:19 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:
Nazeroth wrote:
You know what your right, it's totally legit that hunter biden happend to be on the board of a ukrainian oil company ran by a currupt oligarch in a country known to be hilariously currupt

nothing to see here folks...


What crimes has Hunter committed? What crimes has Joe biden committed?


just beacuse it's legal dosn't mean it's not hilarious dirty money.
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Postby Galloism » Mon Jan 27, 2020 11:19 pm

Nazeroth wrote:
Pasong Tirad wrote:A refusal to talk about Hunter Biden is somehow what makes Bernie spineless. Yeah, okay.


his refusal to bring up extremley sketchy behavior makes him spineless and he is by track record, a loser, over and over. What has he DONE?

and im saying this not as a personal attack on him, im saying he is literally a cuck and a loser, in a literal sense.

https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-mete ... ng-1995-2/

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Postby Nazeroth » Mon Jan 27, 2020 11:19 pm

Pasong Tirad wrote:
Nazeroth wrote:
his refusal to bring up extremley sketchy behavior makes him spineless and he is by track record, a loser, over and over. What has he DONE?

and im saying this not as a personal attack on him, im saying he is literally a cuck and a loser, in a literal sense.

wHaT hAs He DoNe


where are his victories? how long has he been in office?

a few marches in the civil rights era?
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Postby Galloism » Mon Jan 27, 2020 11:22 pm

Nazeroth wrote:
Galloism wrote:So the Ivanka, who knew nothing about banking, being on the board of a Bank probably largely due to her father’s business dealings with the bank, a bank later sued for participating in a Ponzi scheme, is proof that Trump is corrupt?



was Trump president?


No, but neither is or was Biden.

Is this proof Trump is corrupt?

How the fuck are the you Vice President, your son gets on this currupt companies board and you go on live TV and talk about firing the prosecuture?

all politics aside, really? wtf?


Notably, the pressure to fire the prosecutor actually increased risk to the company in question.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/pol ... 785620002/

https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-mete ... -prosecut/
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Postby Pasong Tirad » Mon Jan 27, 2020 11:25 pm

Nazeroth wrote:
Pasong Tirad wrote:wHaT hAs He DoNe


where are his victories? how long has he been in office?

a few marches in the civil rights era?

Lol imagine dismissing marching with MLK.

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Postby Nazeroth » Mon Jan 27, 2020 11:25 pm

meh, im just here to watch biden or sanders get on the debate stage with Trump as he crushes them

Biden can't even talk properly, his creepy vids of him sexual assaulting minors on camera will be used

Sanders will be dragged for his massive want of taxes and "democratic socialist" ideals.

it's going to be a fun ride, win or lose.
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Postby Pasong Tirad » Mon Jan 27, 2020 11:26 pm

Nazeroth wrote:meh, im just here to watch biden or sanders get on the debate stage with Trump as he crushes them

Biden can't even talk properly, his creepy vids of him sexual assaulting minors on camera will be used

Sanders will be dragged for his massive want of taxes and "democratic socialist" ideals.

it's going to be a fun ride, win or lose.

Trump's not gonna debate Sanders.

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Postby Galloism » Mon Jan 27, 2020 11:26 pm

Nazeroth wrote:meh, im just here to watch biden or sanders get on the debate stage with Trump as he crushes them

Biden can't even talk properly, his creepy vids of him sexual assaulting minors on camera will be used

Sanders will be dragged for his massive want of taxes and "democratic socialist" ideals.

it's going to be a fun ride, win or lose.

Debates between Sanders and Trump would be yuge. The yugest debates. Yuuuuuuuge.
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Postby Tomure » Mon Jan 27, 2020 11:26 pm

I think Trump should be one of the poll options instead of no clear winner

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Postby Nazeroth » Mon Jan 27, 2020 11:27 pm

Pasong Tirad wrote:
Nazeroth wrote:meh, im just here to watch biden or sanders get on the debate stage with Trump as he crushes them

Biden can't even talk properly, his creepy vids of him sexual assaulting minors on camera will be used

Sanders will be dragged for his massive want of taxes and "democratic socialist" ideals.

it's going to be a fun ride, win or lose.

Trump's not gonna debate Sanders.


that would be tragic
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Postby Shrillland » Mon Jan 27, 2020 11:27 pm

Tomure wrote:I think Trump should be one of the poll options instead of no clear winner


The poll's for the Iowa Caucus though. That Trump's going to win the GOP caucus is a given, this is for the Democratic side.
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Postby Pasong Tirad » Mon Jan 27, 2020 11:28 pm

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Pasong Tirad wrote:Trump's not gonna debate Sanders.


that would be tragic

It would be unsurprising, since Trump is a coward.

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Postby Nazeroth » Mon Jan 27, 2020 11:29 pm

Galloism wrote:
Nazeroth wrote:meh, im just here to watch biden or sanders get on the debate stage with Trump as he crushes them

Biden can't even talk properly, his creepy vids of him sexual assaulting minors on camera will be used

Sanders will be dragged for his massive want of taxes and "democratic socialist" ideals.

it's going to be a fun ride, win or lose.

Debates between Sanders and Trump would be yuge. The yugest debates. Yuuuuuuuge.


I would cream my pants to watch that

not sure sanders heart could keep up, if stressed caused the first attack then its going to be bad from a health perspective.
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Postby Telconi » Mon Jan 27, 2020 11:29 pm

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Nazeroth wrote:
that would be tragic

It would be unsurprising, since Trump is a coward.


I mean, I don't go outside and roll in the mud. Doesn't make me a coward.
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Postby Nazeroth » Mon Jan 27, 2020 11:30 pm

Pasong Tirad wrote:
Nazeroth wrote:
that would be tragic

It would be unsurprising, since Trump is a coward.


idk, he sure didnt' run away from hillary and hillary made sanders her little bitch.
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Postby Galloism » Mon Jan 27, 2020 11:31 pm

Nazeroth wrote:
Pasong Tirad wrote:It would be unsurprising, since Trump is a coward.


idk, he sure didnt' run away from hillary and hillary made sanders her little bitch.

Yeah, but trump never expressed a fear of Hilary. He has expressed a fear of Sanders.
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