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Who do you think will win South Carolina?

Sanders
27
59%
Warren
0
No votes
Biden
18
39%
Buttigieg
0
No votes
Klobuchar
1
2%
Steyer
0
No votes
 
Total votes : 46

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Postby Nazeroth » Mon Jan 27, 2020 11:00 pm

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Tulsi Gabbard was by far the best shot

she is strong, stable and will actually fight

Sanders can't fight to save his life, I mean he is WEAK

i need to say this again he is fucking W E A K


Tulsi is polling at 2%, and to be honest, I can't be bothered to form an opinion on her. I genuinely can't tell you how she'd fare in a general, but I think you referred to her in the past tense for a reason, because right now, she's not relevant.

And throwing around the word "weak" without anything to back it up is itself a weak argument.

If you're referring to Sanders' heart attack, well I don't know what to tell you. A lot of people have heart attacks. So did Eisenhower. Bill Clinton's heart and health was a medical calamity, Reagan was riding the dementia train in his last few years of office, etc etc. Health problems have no bearing on weakness except in a purely physical sense.


i mean weak and a loser as in he won't even defend his own followers and is spineless against competition.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video ... g_him.html

hes apologizing for calling Biden corrupt
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Postby Cisairse » Mon Jan 27, 2020 11:00 pm

Kargintina the Third wrote:I swear the only reason Gabbard still has 2% is just dudes who think she’s hot.


And Republicans who say they're Democrats when pollers call.
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Postby Cisairse » Mon Jan 27, 2020 11:00 pm

Nazeroth wrote:
Major-Tom wrote:
Tulsi is polling at 2%, and to be honest, I can't be bothered to form an opinion on her. I genuinely can't tell you how she'd fare in a general, but I think you referred to her in the past tense for a reason, because right now, she's not relevant.

And throwing around the word "weak" without anything to back it up is itself a weak argument.

If you're referring to Sanders' heart attack, well I don't know what to tell you. A lot of people have heart attacks. So did Eisenhower. Bill Clinton's heart and health was a medical calamity, Reagan was riding the dementia train in his last few years of office, etc etc. Health problems have no bearing on weakness except in a purely physical sense.


i mean weak and a loser as in he won't even defend his own followers and is spineless against competition.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video ... g_him.html

hes apologizing for calling Biden corrupt


Imagine shitting on somebody for being an honest human being

Wow
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Postby Nazeroth » Mon Jan 27, 2020 11:02 pm

Cisairse wrote:
Nazeroth wrote:
i mean weak and a loser as in he won't even defend his own followers and is spineless against competition.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video ... g_him.html

hes apologizing for calling Biden corrupt


Imagine shitting on somebody for being an honest human being

Wow


no, bernie should have said " Why was your son on the board of a ukrainian oil company ran by a known oligarch? hurr hurr I'm bernie sanders and im totally against currupt corporations except i'm not because im a big pussy and will back down at the first sign of biden wanting to put his foot in my ass"
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Postby Pasong Tirad » Mon Jan 27, 2020 11:03 pm

Nazeroth wrote:
Major-Tom wrote:
Tulsi is polling at 2%, and to be honest, I can't be bothered to form an opinion on her. I genuinely can't tell you how she'd fare in a general, but I think you referred to her in the past tense for a reason, because right now, she's not relevant.

And throwing around the word "weak" without anything to back it up is itself a weak argument.

If you're referring to Sanders' heart attack, well I don't know what to tell you. A lot of people have heart attacks. So did Eisenhower. Bill Clinton's heart and health was a medical calamity, Reagan was riding the dementia train in his last few years of office, etc etc. Health problems have no bearing on weakness except in a purely physical sense.


i mean weak and a loser as in he won't even defend his own followers and is spineless against competition.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video ... g_him.html

hes apologizing for calling Biden corrupt

And then when Biden went on the attack so did he. The guy wanted to run a clean campaign and keeps being goaded into going negative.

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Postby Idzequitch » Mon Jan 27, 2020 11:03 pm

Nazeroth wrote:
Major-Tom wrote:
Tulsi is polling at 2%, and to be honest, I can't be bothered to form an opinion on her. I genuinely can't tell you how she'd fare in a general, but I think you referred to her in the past tense for a reason, because right now, she's not relevant.

And throwing around the word "weak" without anything to back it up is itself a weak argument.

If you're referring to Sanders' heart attack, well I don't know what to tell you. A lot of people have heart attacks. So did Eisenhower. Bill Clinton's heart and health was a medical calamity, Reagan was riding the dementia train in his last few years of office, etc etc. Health problems have no bearing on weakness except in a purely physical sense.


i mean weak and a loser as in he won't even defend his own followers and is spineless against competition.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video ... g_him.html

hes apologizing for calling Biden corrupt

Well, if having a conscience and actually thinking about what comes put of your mouth is weak, then sure, Trump is the strongest candidate I've ever seen and everyone else is weak in comparison. However, some of us think having a conscience and considering the impact of one's words is a positive thing.
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Postby Nazeroth » Mon Jan 27, 2020 11:03 pm

Pasong Tirad wrote:
Nazeroth wrote:
i mean weak and a loser as in he won't even defend his own followers and is spineless against competition.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video ... g_him.html

hes apologizing for calling Biden corrupt

And then when Biden went on the attack so did he. The guy wanted to run a clean campaign and keeps being goaded into going negative.


when did sanders " go on the attack"?
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Postby Galloism » Mon Jan 27, 2020 11:04 pm

Nazeroth wrote:
Cisairse wrote:
Imagine shitting on somebody for being an honest human being

Wow


no, bernie should have said " Why was your son on the board of a ukrainian oil company ran by a known oligarch? hurr hurr I'm bernie sanders and im totally against currupt corporations except i'm not because im a big pussy and will back down at the first sign of biden wanting to put his foot in my ass"

“Bernie isn’t an incompetent politician so he’s spineless.”

That’s what I just read.
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Postby Nazeroth » Mon Jan 27, 2020 11:05 pm

Galloism wrote:
Nazeroth wrote:
no, bernie should have said " Why was your son on the board of a ukrainian oil company ran by a known oligarch? hurr hurr I'm bernie sanders and im totally against currupt corporations except i'm not because im a big pussy and will back down at the first sign of biden wanting to put his foot in my ass"

“Bernie isn’t an incompetent politician so he’s spineless.”

That’s what I just read.


if your whole thing is "greedy corporations are the problem and we need to fight them" and you excuse Biden's obvious corruption, your fucking spineless.
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Postby Pasong Tirad » Mon Jan 27, 2020 11:05 pm

Nazeroth wrote:
Pasong Tirad wrote:And then when Biden went on the attack so did he. The guy wanted to run a clean campaign and keeps being goaded into going negative.


when did sanders " go on the attack"?

https://twitter.com/BernieSanders/statu ... 02272?s=19

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Postby Nazeroth » Mon Jan 27, 2020 11:07 pm

Pasong Tirad wrote:
Nazeroth wrote:
when did sanders " go on the attack"?

https://twitter.com/BernieSanders/statu ... 02272?s=19


that's not much of an attack really, that's just typical back and forth politics pointing out hypocrysy

if he wanted to ATTACK Joe he would have been all over him and his sons dealing with a ukrainian oil oligarch

he should have said " Why was Joe Bidens son appointed to a high position of a currupt oil company ran by a oil oligarch"

THAT would have even given me a boner.
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Postby Nobel Hobos 2 » Mon Jan 27, 2020 11:08 pm

Pasong Tirad wrote:
Nazeroth wrote:
i mean weak and a loser as in he won't even defend his own followers and is spineless against competition.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video ... g_him.html

hes apologizing for calling Biden corrupt

And then when Biden went on the attack so did he. The guy wanted to run a clean campaign and keeps being goaded into going negative.


Well he'll have time to go negative if he gets the nomination. For now he (and the other candidates) have to politely disagree with each other if necessary but not fight out their differences in public.

Nazeroth's interest in seeing an all-in argument between the frontrunners, is obviously not the interest of Democrats.
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Postby Galloism » Mon Jan 27, 2020 11:09 pm

Nazeroth wrote:
Galloism wrote:“Bernie isn’t an incompetent politician so he’s spineless.”

That’s what I just read.


if your whole thing is "greedy corporations are the problem and we need to fight them" and you excuse Biden's obvious corruption, your fucking spineless.

I am curious why you think a family member being on a corporate board of a pretty shady corporation makes YOU corrupt.

Ivanka Trump was on the board of Signature bank, that was sued a few years ago for participating in a Ponzi scheme. Is that proof trump is corrupt?
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Postby USS Monitor » Mon Jan 27, 2020 11:09 pm

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I don’t think that’s guaranteed if it’s a big enough defeat


Dude, the Dems aren't going to lose a landslide. If they lose, it will be close. Calm down.
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Postby Nazeroth » Mon Jan 27, 2020 11:09 pm

Nobel Hobos 2 wrote:
Pasong Tirad wrote:And then when Biden went on the attack so did he. The guy wanted to run a clean campaign and keeps being goaded into going negative.


Well he'll have time to go negative if he gets the nomination. For now he (and the other candidates) have to politely disagree with each other if necessary but not fight out their differences in public.

Nazeroth's interest in seeing an all-in argument between the frontrunners, is obviously not the interest of Democrats.


I would say AOC has done enough of that already by not paying her party due and literally saying she will run opposing candidates against other dems.

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Postby Cisairse » Mon Jan 27, 2020 11:10 pm

Nazeroth wrote:
Nobel Hobos 2 wrote:
Well he'll have time to go negative if he gets the nomination. For now he (and the other candidates) have to politely disagree with each other if necessary but not fight out their differences in public.

Nazeroth's interest in seeing an all-in argument between the frontrunners, is obviously not the interest of Democrats.


I would say AOC has done enough of that already by not paying her party due and literally saying she will run opposing candidates against other dems.

"cue music" We didn't start the fire!


How is that relevant?
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Postby The Black Forrest » Mon Jan 27, 2020 11:10 pm

Galloism wrote:
Nazeroth wrote:
if your whole thing is "greedy corporations are the problem and we need to fight them" and you excuse Biden's obvious corruption, your fucking spineless.

I am curious why you think a family member being on a corporate board of a pretty shady corporation makes YOU corrupt.

Ivanka Trump was on the board of Signature bank, that was sued a few years ago for participating in a Ponzi scheme. Is that proof trump is corrupt?


Depends. Did daddy teach her all she knows?

Can she even spell Ponzi?

How about the 16 trademarks in China?
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Postby Nazeroth » Mon Jan 27, 2020 11:11 pm

Galloism wrote:
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if your whole thing is "greedy corporations are the problem and we need to fight them" and you excuse Biden's obvious corruption, your fucking spineless.

I am curious why you think a family member being on a corporate board of a pretty shady corporation makes YOU corrupt.

Ivanka Trump was on the board of Signature bank, that was sued a few years ago for participating in a Ponzi scheme. Is that proof trump is corrupt?



Because he literally says the only reason he was on that board is "probably" because of his dad

and not only that, he has zero experience and is making fat cash, dosn't speak ukrainian and happend to be appointed a top position at an oil company known for curruption in a known currupt country.

You would have to have some kind of mental disablity to think Joe Biden didn't have any interest in that

and Bernie should have called him out for corporate curruption, but hes a cuck so he sat back down like he did with Hillary Clinton.
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Postby Saiwania » Mon Jan 27, 2020 11:12 pm

Nazeroth wrote:I would say AOC has done enough of that already by not paying her party due and literally saying she will run opposing candidates against other dems.


AOC has burned enough bridges to where most non-radical Democrats can't wait to get rid of her. She might not win reelection via the party elites in her state redrawing the districts after the 2020 census so that hers won't exist anymore and she won't get enough majority support from the new district boundaries to remain in her House seat going forward.
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Postby Pasong Tirad » Mon Jan 27, 2020 11:13 pm

Nazeroth wrote:


that's not much of an attack really, that's just typical back and forth politics pointing out hypocrysy

if he wanted to ATTACK Joe he would have been all over him and his sons dealing with a ukrainian oil oligarch

he should have said " Why was Joe Bidens son appointed to a high position of a currupt oil company ran by a oil oligarch"

THAT would have even given me a boner.

Whether or not what Bernie does makes you erect is hardly the point.

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Postby USS Monitor » Mon Jan 27, 2020 11:13 pm

Kargintina the Third wrote:I swear the only reason Gabbard still has 2% is just dudes who think she’s hot.


It would explain why she polls so much better with men than she does with women.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Mon Jan 27, 2020 11:13 pm

Nazeroth wrote:
Galloism wrote:I am curious why you think a family member being on a corporate board of a pretty shady corporation makes YOU corrupt.

Ivanka Trump was on the board of Signature bank, that was sued a few years ago for participating in a Ponzi scheme. Is that proof trump is corrupt?



Because he literally says the only reason he was on that board is "probably" because of his dad

and not only that, he has zero experience and is making fat cash, dosn't speak ukrainian and happend to be appointed a top position at an oil company known for curruption in a known currupt country.

You would have to have some kind of mental disablity to think Joe Biden didn't have any interest in that

and Bernie should have called him out for corporate curruption, but hes a cuck so he sat back down like he did with Hillary Clinton.


OMG. To think there are board members in the US who get paid a great deal for doing little or simply have name recognition.

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Postby Idzequitch » Mon Jan 27, 2020 11:14 pm

Nobel Hobos 2 wrote:
Pasong Tirad wrote:And then when Biden went on the attack so did he. The guy wanted to run a clean campaign and keeps being goaded into going negative.


Well he'll have time to go negative if he gets the nomination. For now he (and the other candidates) have to politely disagree with each other if necessary but not fight out their differences in public.

Nazeroth's interest in seeing an all-in argument between the frontrunners, is obviously not the interest of Democrats.

Basically this. The Dem candidates are eventually all going to get behind whoever wins. Hard to justify that when you've been trying to bash their head in for several months. No need to give the Trump propaganda cannon more ammunition by mercilessly attacking one another.
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Postby Nazeroth » Mon Jan 27, 2020 11:14 pm

Pasong Tirad wrote:
Nazeroth wrote:
that's not much of an attack really, that's just typical back and forth politics pointing out hypocrysy

if he wanted to ATTACK Joe he would have been all over him and his sons dealing with a ukrainian oil oligarch

he should have said " Why was Joe Bidens son appointed to a high position of a currupt oil company ran by a oil oligarch"

THAT would have even given me a boner.

Whether or not what Bernie does makes you erect is hardly the point.


the point is that he is a spineless idealist

he can't even give a speech without some loud mouths taking over his microphone before he sat back down and jerked it in the corner.

He would be SHREDDED by world leaders, imagine Sanders trying to deal with the chinese or russians? they would devour his ass.
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Postby Pasong Tirad » Mon Jan 27, 2020 11:15 pm

Nazeroth wrote:
Pasong Tirad wrote:Whether or not what Bernie does makes you erect is hardly the point.


the point is that he is a spineless idealist

he can't even give a speech without some loud mouths taking over his microphone before he sat back down and jerked it in the corner.

He would be SHREDDED by world leaders, imagine Sanders trying to deal with the chinese or russians? they would devour his ass.

A refusal to talk about Hunter Biden is somehow what makes Bernie spineless. Yeah, okay.

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