2020 US General Election Thread IV: The Battle Begins

[LiberNovusAmericae]

The big concern with Sanders imo is that Trump could dumb a lot of his ideas down to "Bernie is gonna raise your taxes, and it's not gonna be just a little bit okay, he's gonna raise them a lot." and just hammer him on things like that.

Those are also things he would say about every other Democrat lol

the problem with constantly crying socialism with Obama and Clinton is now that you actually have a socialist in the game, the outrage can't get cranked up much further about it

What you have here is the boy who cried wolf.

[Nazeroth]

Rebels were still american,

I believe they declared themselves independent and rebelled against the Union, so, no (unless you mean in the sense of being from the Americas, in which case once again they are as American as a Mexican or Colombian or Guatemalan DACA recipient )

literally cut from the same cloth and had almost the exact same beliefs minus slavery

> "minus slavery"

>>> M I N U S S L A V E R Y

So that dosnt make sense

"stop waving your un-american flags around, it's not patriotic"
"ok, how about you put away the flag of the racist rebel slavers who nearly destroyed the country by treasonously starting the most devastating armed conflict in our history"
"why do you hate me celebrating my heritage "

They were americans still since they were called the fucking CSA

And they were basically racist libertarians

Not an entirely different culture and ethnic group like south americans, nice dodge though

[Senkaku]

They were americans still since they were called the fucking CSA

Got it, so if "America" is in the country name they're Americans

but hmmm that leaves us with a northern America and a southern America... what should we call those people... perhaps...

south americans

Not an entirely different culture and ethnic group like south americans

ah yes, south america, a notoriously monolithic ethnocultural entity

anyways, that aside, I agree, southerners are no different culturally or ethnically in any way from yankees and anyone who says so is sowing dissent and treason within the republic! we must stamp out this disunity, great nations like the US shouldn't have regionalism- we must look to China and France for our example there, not Russia or Britain. Imagine letting regions have flags and teaching people about their history of cultural and political difference from the rest of the metropole!

And they were basically racist libertarians

And also traitors. You know. Racist traitors. Don't forget the traitor part it's important

[USS Monitor]

I believe they declared themselves independent and rebelled against the Union, so, no (unless you mean in the sense of being from the Americas, in which case once again they are as American as a Mexican or Colombian or Guatemalan DACA recipient )

> "minus slavery"

>>> M I N U S S L A V E R Y


"stop waving your un-american flags around, it's not patriotic"
"ok, how about you put away the flag of the racist rebel slavers who nearly destroyed the country by treasonously starting the most devastating armed conflict in our history"
"why do you hate me celebrating my heritage "

They were americans still since they were called the fucking CSA

And they were basically racist libertarians

Not an entirely different culture and ethnic group like south americans, nice dodge though

I'd rather have South Americans. Bring me all the coca tea, Brazilian BBQ, and alpaca sweaters.

Why we're talking about South Americans, though, when most of the immigration isn't from there...

[Senkaku]

Bring me all the coca tea

:^)

[Cisairse]

Sanders has now overtaken Biden in the betting odds as the favorite to win the nomination.



In fact, the odds give him a 56.8% chance of winning Iowa (up 13.5% in the last week) a 70.0% chance of winning New Hampshire (+17.2%), and a 57.5% chance of winning Nevada.

[San Lumen]

I think Sanders would be a disaster in a general election. Many of his polices will scare off key voters and he will go down to a big defeat possibly putting the house in play too but Democrats seem keen on shooting themselves in the foot and blowing a winnable election locking themselves out of power for a decade due to 2020 being a census year.

I want to be wrong but Im afraid ill have to say I told you so but the damage will have been done.

[Nazeroth]

Sanders has now overtaken Biden in the betting odds as the favorite to win the nomination.

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In fact, the odds give him a 56.8% chance of winning Iowa (up 13.5% in the last week) a 70.0% chance of winning New Hampshire (+17.2%), and a 57.5% chance of winning Nevada.

good, i hope he wins, even as a trump supporter.

[San Lumen]

Sanders has now overtaken Biden in the betting odds as the favorite to win the nomination.

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In fact, the odds give him a 56.8% chance of winning Iowa (up 13.5% in the last week) a 70.0% chance of winning New Hampshire (+17.2%), and a 57.5% chance of winning Nevada.

good, i hope he wins, even as a trump supporter.

Yeah because he would be a disaster but Democrats seem keen on shooting themselves in the foot and losing the house.,

[Cisairse]

I think Sanders would be a disaster in a general election. Many of his polices will scare off key voters and he will go down to a big defeat possibly putting the house in play too but Democrats seem keen on shooting themselves in the foot and blowing a winnable election locking themselves out of power for a decade due to 2020 being a census year.

I want to be wrong but Im afraid ill have to say I told you so but the damage will have been done.

Literally every national, Florida, and Michigan poll taken in the last month shows Sanders beating Trump by at least two points.

[San Lumen]

I think Sanders would be a disaster in a general election. Many of his polices will scare off key voters and he will go down to a big defeat possibly putting the house in play too but Democrats seem keen on shooting themselves in the foot and blowing a winnable election locking themselves out of power for a decade due to 2020 being a census year.

I want to be wrong but Im afraid ill have to say I told you so but the damage will have been done.

Literally every national, Florida, and Michigan poll taken in the last month shows Sanders beating Trump by at least two points.

He does now. Doesnt mean it will stay that way.

[Nazeroth]

good, i hope he wins, even as a trump supporter.

Yeah because he would be a disaster but Democrats seem keen on shooting themselves in the foot and losing the house.,

Welp, you reap what you sow

you can't expect to invite people like Bernie and AOC into your camp, normalize them and there radical followers and expect them to bend the knee...radicals don't bend....

[Telconi]

They were americans still since they were called the fucking CSA

Got it, so if "America" is in the country name they're Americans

but hmmm that leaves us with a northern America and a southern America... what should we call those people... perhaps...

south americans

Not an entirely different culture and ethnic group like south americans

ah yes, south america, a notoriously monolithic ethnocultural entity

anyways, that aside, I agree, southerners are no different culturally or ethnically in any way from yankees and anyone who says so is sowing dissent and treason within the republic! we must stamp out this disunity, great nations like the US shouldn't have regionalism- we must look to China and France for our example there, not Russia or Britain. Imagine letting regions have flags and teaching people about their history of cultural and political difference from the rest of the metropole!

And they were basically racist libertarians

And also traitors. You know. Racist traitors. Don't forget the traitor part it's important

TBF the traitor part is probably the least important.

[Cisairse]

Literally every national, Florida, and Michigan poll taken in the last month shows Sanders beating Trump by at least two points.

He does now. Doesnt mean it will stay that way.

I really don't see it getting any better for Trump. I mean even Republican strategists are afraid of a post-acquittal "trickle down" of extremely damaging information throughout the campaign period. The economy is going to go into recession most likely before the election. There are no more policy goals that Trump can reasonably succeed in implementing by November.

[San Lumen]

He does now. Doesnt mean it will stay that way.

I really don't see it getting any better for Trump. I mean even Republican strategists are afraid of a post-acquittal "trickle down" of extremely damaging information throughout the campaign period. The economy is going to go into recession most likely before the election. There are no more policy goals that Trump can reasonably succeed in implementing by November.

All Republicans will do is hammer how Bernie wants to raise your taxes and take away your healthcare and bankrupt the country. Dont think that wont be an effective attack. I want to be wrong believe me.

[Nazeroth]

I really don't see it getting any better for Trump. I mean even Republican strategists are afraid of a post-acquittal "trickle down" of extremely damaging information throughout the campaign period. The economy is going to go into recession most likely before the election. There are no more policy goals that Trump can reasonably succeed in implementing by November.

All Republicans will do is hammer how Bernie wants to raise your taxes and take away your healthcare and bankrupt the country. Dont think that wont be an effective attack. I want to be wrong believe me.

This ^

though i dont think he wants to take away healthcare, just force us into shitty government healthcare, but that's besides the point.

[Galloism]

I really don't see it getting any better for Trump. I mean even Republican strategists are afraid of a post-acquittal "trickle down" of extremely damaging information throughout the campaign period. The economy is going to go into recession most likely before the election. There are no more policy goals that Trump can reasonably succeed in implementing by November.

All Republicans will do is hammer how Bernie wants to raise your taxes and take away your healthcare and bankrupt the country. Dont think that wont be an effective attack. I want to be wrong believe me.

Tbh, they were going to do that with whoever the nominee was anyway.

[San Lumen]

All Republicans will do is hammer how Bernie wants to raise your taxes and take away your healthcare and bankrupt the country. Dont think that wont be an effective attack. I want to be wrong believe me.

Tbh, they were going to do that with whoever the nominee was anyway.

Yeah but Bernie would be a disaster but Democrats seem to want to blow the election

[Nazeroth]

All Republicans will do is hammer how Bernie wants to raise your taxes and take away your healthcare and bankrupt the country. Dont think that wont be an effective attack. I want to be wrong believe me.

Tbh, they were going to do that with whoever the nominee was anyway.

it also helps when all of them raise there hands on stupid shit like healthcare for illegals on taxpayer dime

they make it too easy.

[Telconi]

All Republicans will do is hammer how Bernie wants to raise your taxes and take away your healthcare and bankrupt the country. Dont think that wont be an effective attack. I want to be wrong believe me.

Tbh, they were going to do that with whoever the nominee was anyway.

Truthful attacks are often the best.

[San Lumen]

Tbh, they were going to do that with whoever the nominee was anyway.

it also helps when all of them raise there hands on stupid shit like healthcare for illegals on taxpayer dime

they make it too easy.

Yeah hospitals should be immigration agents and turn people away on the basis of citizenship or report them to ICE while getting treatment

[Telconi]

He does now. Doesnt mean it will stay that way.

I really don't see it getting any better for Trump. I mean even Republican strategists are afraid of a post-acquittal "trickle down" of extremely damaging information throughout the campaign period. The economy is going to go into recession most likely before the election. There are no more policy goals that Trump can reasonably succeed in implementing by November.

I really don't think Trump's corruption is a deciding factor.

[Galloism]

Tbh, they were going to do that with whoever the nominee was anyway.

Yeah but Bernie would be a disaster but Democrats seem to want to blow the election

Yeah, by tearing down the best chance they have and whining about Bernie.

[Nazeroth]

it also helps when all of them raise there hands on stupid shit like healthcare for illegals on taxpayer dime

they make it too easy.

Yeah hospitals should be immigration agents and turn people away on the basis of citizenship or report them to ICE while getting treatment

no, but saying your going to just hand out healthcare on the backs of taxpayers to any swinging dick is stupid

in related news: California now offers medicare for ilegals 25 years and under while I get to pay 2,000 for taking my husband to the doctor a few weeks ago

really showing how much dems love americans.

[San Lumen]

Yeah but Bernie would be a disaster but Democrats seem to want to blow the election

Yeah, by tearing down the best chance they have and whining about Bernie.

are you saying Bernie is the best chance they have because I think that's Biden.