2020 US General Election Thread IV: The Battle Begins

[Nazeroth]

oh Trump will eat him alive on the debate stage with that stuff

Biden is so think skinned he would get slaughtered on the debate stage. Trump just has to call him sleepy joe once during a silent period and Biden will melt into the stage.

Sanders cucked out to Biden, Biden straight up talked trash to him and Sanders just shrunk

he is W E A K

Biden is better, if only because he just sounds like a creepy old guy, but not really batshit.

[The Black Forrest]

oh Trump will eat him alive on the debate stage with that stuff

Biden is so think skinned he would get slaughtered on the debate stage. Trump just has to call him sleepy joe once during a silent period and Biden will melt into the stage.

Oh I don’t know. I am not sure trump can deal with that dismissive laugh “Look at this guy!”

[Nazeroth]

The big concern with Sanders imo is that Trump could dumb a lot of his ideas down to "Bernie is gonna raise your taxes, and it's not gonna be just a little bit okay, he's gonna raise them a lot." and just hammer him on things like that.

Those are also things he would say about every other Democrat lol

the problem with constantly crying socialism with Obama and Clinton is now that you actually have a socialist in the game, the outrage can't get cranked up much further about it

the problem for the Dems was letting a socialist get that far

but allowing AOC and others into tent was there foolish mistake, a mistake they will reap.

[Senkaku]

oh Trump will eat him alive on the debate stage with that stuff

Biden is so think skinned he would get slaughtered on the debate stage. Trump just has to call him sleepy joe once during a silent period and Biden will melt into the stage.

He'd fucking stutter his way into saying the n word or something and then have another blood vessel burst... blood literally coming out of his eyes (or his wherever )

[Telconi]

The big concern with Sanders imo is that Trump could dumb a lot of his ideas down to "Bernie is gonna raise your taxes, and it's not gonna be just a little bit okay, he's gonna raise them a lot." and just hammer him on things like that.

Those are also things he would say about every other Democrat lol

the problem with constantly crying socialism with Obama and Clinton is now that you actually have a socialist in the game, the outrage can't get cranked up much further about it

I think you'd be surprised.

[Washington Resistance Army]

The big concern with Sanders imo is that Trump could dumb a lot of his ideas down to "Bernie is gonna raise your taxes, and it's not gonna be just a little bit okay, he's gonna raise them a lot." and just hammer him on things like that.

Those are also things he would say about every other Democrat lol

the problem with constantly crying socialism with Obama and Clinton is now that you actually have a socialist in the game, the outrage can't get cranked up much further about it

Oh for sure he would say that about every Democrat, but imho it would be most effective against Sanders and Warren who have very big and very expensive ideas.

[Kargintina the Third]

Biden is so think skinned he would get slaughtered on the debate stage. Trump just has to call him sleepy joe once during a silent period and Biden will melt into the stage.

Oh I don’t know. I am not sure trump can deal with that dismissive laugh “Look at this guy!”

Biden isn’t as charismatic as he used to be. He looked deranged when he had his “WHYWHYWHYWHYWHYWHY” freak out on the CBS reporter

[Senkaku]

Those are also things he would say about every other Democrat lol

the problem with constantly crying socialism with Obama and Clinton is now that you actually have a socialist in the game, the outrage can't get cranked up much further about it

Oh for sure he would say that about every Democrat, but imho it would be most effective against Sanders and Warren who have very big and very expensive ideas.

it's not like Biden or Buttigieg are playing with pocket change tho lol, the average voter is not going to register that much difference if he's screaming about "Bernie's plan costs a trillion" or "Biden's plan costs thirty billion", what people will hear is "expensive, bad, higher taxes, socialism"

[Senkaku]

Those are also things he would say about every other Democrat lol

the problem with constantly crying socialism with Obama and Clinton is now that you actually have a socialist in the game, the outrage can't get cranked up much further about it

I think you'd be surprised.

perhaps i will be, it's happened before

at a certain point you just gotta accept that life is fleeting and stick to your g- I mean, your non-lethal, politically correct... plasma... javelins?

[Nazeroth]

Oh I don’t know. I am not sure trump can deal with that dismissive laugh “Look at this guy!”

Biden isn’t as charismatic as he used to be. He looked deranged when he had his “WHYWHYWHYWHYWHYWHY” freak out on the CBS reporter

“Most daca people are more american than most americans”

[The Black Forrest]

Oh I don’t know. I am not sure trump can deal with that dismissive laugh “Look at this guy!”

Biden isn’t as charismatic as he used to be. He looked deranged when he had his “WHYWHYWHYWHYWHYWHY” freak out on the CBS reporter

Yea. Now that you mention it. He has not been the same since his kid died.

[Senkaku]

Biden isn’t as charismatic as he used to be. He looked deranged when he had his “WHYWHYWHYWHYWHYWHY” freak out on the CBS reporter

“Most daca people are more american than most americans”

I dunno, based on the DACA ppl I know and the Americans I know this feels pretty true lol

[The Black Forrest]

Biden isn’t as charismatic as he used to be. He looked deranged when he had his “WHYWHYWHYWHYWHYWHY” freak out on the CBS reporter

“Most daca people are more american than most americans”

Well? They are trying to fit in. Improve themselves. contribute, etc. I have seen many who think it’s owed to them.

[Telconi]

“Most daca people are more american than most americans”

I dunno, based on the DACA ppl I know and the Americans I know this feels pretty true lol

I mean what makes someone "More American" than anyone else?

[Senkaku]

Biden isn’t as charismatic as he used to be. He looked deranged when he had his “WHYWHYWHYWHYWHYWHY” freak out on the CBS reporter

Yea. Now that you mention it. He has not been the same since his kid died.

not the grief-stricken septuagenarian trying to keep to his former grueling routine to stay abreast of his younger rivals while taking fire from all sides for his years of public service

[Senkaku]

I dunno, based on the DACA ppl I know and the Americans I know this feels pretty true lol

I mean what makes someone "More American" than anyone else?

I'm assuming it's meant in terms of patriotism or love of country/commitment to its ideals and making it a better, happier, wealthier, more peaceful and just place or whateva

[Nazeroth]

I mean what makes someone "More American" than anyone else?

I'm assuming it's meant in terms of patriotism or love of country/commitment to its ideals and making it a better, happier, wealthier, more peaceful and just place or whateva

I fail to see waving the flag of the country your fleeing is displaying commitment

[Senkaku]

I'm assuming it's meant in terms of patriotism or love of country/commitment to its ideals and making it a better, happier, wealthier, more peaceful and just place or whateva

I fail to see waving the flag of the country your fleeing is displaying commitment

God forbid anyone be proud of their heritage lol

we apparently have to let the south do it soooo

[Nazeroth]

I fail to see waving the flag of the country your fleeing is displaying commitment

God forbid anyone be proud of their heritage lol

wow if you weren't following the conversation I could very well be a Southern belle waving the Rebel flag and yelling states' rights at the top of my lungs w that little phrase up yonder

Rebels were still american, literally cut from the same cloth and had almost the exact same beliefs minus slavery

So that dosnt make sense

[Shrillland]

God forbid anyone be proud of their heritage lol

wow if you weren't following the conversation I could very well be a Southern belle waving the Rebel flag and yelling states' rights at the top of my lungs w that little phrase up yonder

Rebels were still american, literally cut from the same cloth and had almost the exact same beliefs minus slavery

So that dosnt make sense

They were traitors plain and simple. But I digress.

[Senkaku]

God forbid anyone be proud of their heritage lol

wow if you weren't following the conversation I could very well be a Southern belle waving the Rebel flag and yelling states' rights at the top of my lungs w that little phrase up yonder

Rebels were still american,

I believe they declared themselves independent and rebelled against the Union, so, no (unless you mean in the sense of being from the Americas, in which case once again they are as American as a Mexican or Colombian or Guatemalan DACA recipient )

literally cut from the same cloth and had almost the exact same beliefs minus slavery

> "minus slavery"

>>> M I N U S S L A V E R Y

So that dosnt make sense

"stop waving your un-american flags around, it's not patriotic"
"ok, how about you put away the flag of the racist rebel slavers who nearly destroyed the country by treasonously starting the most devastating armed conflict in our history"
"why do you hate me celebrating my heritage "

[San Lumen]

Lets have an election for Governor. In RCV or IRV which if im not mistaken is very similar if not the same thing lets say after the ballots are counted one person gets 50 percent of the vote. Under that system they win outright and no more counting is done. is that fair to you?

Sure. At the very least, it narrows down the ballot to those most acceptable to the people. The real benefits of RCV comes in legislatures, not executives.

and in that system you still have districts usually. if an election for New York state legislature was held under that system and it wound up with Democrats controlling both chambers with a two thirds majority which is very possible this year would you consider it fair and democratic?

[Shrillland]

Sure. At the very least, it narrows down the ballot to those most acceptable to the people. The real benefits of RCV comes in legislatures, not executives.

and in that system you still have districts usually. if an election for New York state legislature was held under that system and it wound up with Democrats controlling both chambers with a two thirds majority which is very possible this year would you consider it fair and democratic?

Me personally, not entirely, but I'm more of an MMP/PR partisan for such things.

[LiberNovusAmericae]

This attitude "enjoy prison then"

is typical of the snobby elitism we see with leftists

"were in control, too bad, get fucked"

welp, enjoy civil war and mass unrest then

You do understand that Telconi was, quite literally and unironically, voicing support for the arrest of political dissenters, yeah? Further, you understand that Telconi is not a leftist?

Let's arrest communists, starting with the tankies.

[San Lumen]

and in that system you still have districts usually. if an election for New York state legislature was held under that system and it wound up with Democrats controlling both chambers with a two thirds majority which is very possible this year would you consider it fair and democratic?

Me personally, not entirely, but I'm more of an MMP/PR partisan for such things.

I fully support MMP. My main reason being it gives both sides what they want. Those who desire proportional representation get it and those who want districts get what they want. In my view its the perfect compromise system