2020 US General Election Thread IV: The Battle Begins

[Nobel Hobos 2]

When did "elites and government" kill 800 thousand people like your actual civil war did ?

how about "elites" like the Nazis and Communist who used their "legal" government actions to kill untold MILLIONS

for "public saftey" of course

I was under the impression we were talking about the US.

*checks top of page*

Yep, we're talking about the US. Try answering again.

[Rojava Free State]

You say that and yet governments worldwide are more capable of mass murder than any random terrorists. I would rather deal with random terror attacks than live in a police state. Like seriously would anyone here live in the PRC? Why would you want that kind of shit here? And the government arresting people for their opinions is not legitimate, constitutional or morally justified in any way. They have no one to blame but themselves if people react violently to it

Total anarchy is a bad idea my friend.

you don't need a hitler or Stalin to prevent anarchy

[Rojava Free State]

how about "elites" like the Nazis and Communist who used their "legal" government actions to kill untold MILLIONS

for "public saftey" of course

I was under the impression we were talking about the US.

*checks top of page*

Yep, we're talking about the US. Try answering again.[/quote

When you advocate for a leader who jails people for their opinions, you'll get a hitler or Stalin

[Telconi]

Total anarchy is a bad idea my friend.

you don't need a hitler or Stalin to prevent anarchy

Well, no, but arresting people for their opinions is fundamentally what laws are.

[Nazeroth]

how about "elites" like the Nazis and Communist who used their "legal" government actions to kill untold MILLIONS

for "public saftey" of course

I was under the impression we were talking about the US.

*checks top of page*

Yep, we're talking about the US. Try answering again.

the assumption that we are somehow exempt from such scenarios implies we are not human like they were.

"it can't happen here" is a TERRIBLE defense your running.

[Rojava Free State]

you don't need a hitler or Stalin to prevent anarchy

Well, no, but arresting people for their opinions is fundamentally what laws are.

Those are some bullshit laws. People have a right to have an opinion. The government can either respect that or trigger a violent bloody conflict. Violence and terror can be avoided simply by having a government that doesn't imitate Juan Peron

[Nazeroth]

Well, no, but arresting people for their opinions is fundamentally what laws are.

Those are some bullshit laws. People have a right to have an opinion. The government can either respect that or trigger a violent bloody conflict. Violence and terror can be avoided simply by having a government that doesn't imitate Juan Peron

well the VA govenor seems to think he can pass a bunch of bills and then try to mitigate his ouster by raising the bar for him to be removed, effectivley making him putin 2.0

[Rojava Free State]

https://www.globalresearch.ca/us-has-ki ... ii/5492051

Btw in response to Nobel hobos, according to this research study, the US has killed 20 million people in foreign wars since WWII. Keep in mind that WWII is not included. Most of these casualties were civilians, and the wars since WWII include vietnam, Afghanistan and iraq along with Persian gulf and korea. Many of these wars never should have been fought.

800,000 people killed by our civil war vs 20 million killed by our government. In other words you tell me which is more dangerous

[Telconi]

Well, no, but arresting people for their opinions is fundamentally what laws are.

Those are some bullshit laws. People have a right to have an opinion. The government can either respect that or trigger a violent bloody conflict. Violence and terror can be avoided simply by having a government that doesn't imitate Juan Peron

Those are all laws. Literally every law criminalizes a belief, the one contrary to the law.

[Nazeroth]

https://www.globalresearch.ca/us-has-killed-more-than-20-million-people-in-37-victim-nations-since-world-war-ii/5492051

Btw in response to Nobel hobos, according to this research study, the US has killed 20 million people in foreign wars since WWII. Keep in mind that WWII is not included. Most of these casualties were civilians, and the wars since WWII include vietnam, Afghanistan and iraq along with Persian gulf and korea. Many of these wars never should have been fought.

800,000 people killed by our civil war vs 20 million killed by our government. In other words you tell me which is more dangerous

that's not even counting the native americans

[Nobel Hobos 2]

I was under the impression we were talking about the US.

*checks top of page*

Yep, we're talking about the US. Try answering again.

the assumption that we are somehow exempt from such scenarios implies we are not human like they were.

"it can't happen here" is a TERRIBLE defense your running.

Tyranny has already happened: there are limits on the type of gun you can buy for instance. Invasions of your privacy. Imprisonment of people for drug crimes that should be their business. But armed resistance is not the appropriate response and you know it. I know you know it, because you're talking all about the subject and you wouldn't be if you were an armed rebel.

As I see it, governments and particularly the federal government have already violated people's rights. But unlike you I'm not worried about that getting further out of control and becoming a Soviet or Nazi style tyranny.

[Northern Davincia]

https://www.globalresearch.ca/us-has-killed-more-than-20-million-people-in-37-victim-nations-since-world-war-ii/5492051

Btw in response to Nobel hobos, according to this research study, the US has killed 20 million people in foreign wars since WWII. Keep in mind that WWII is not included. Most of these casualties were civilians, and the wars since WWII include vietnam, Afghanistan and iraq along with Persian gulf and korea. Many of these wars never should have been fought.

800,000 people killed by our civil war vs 20 million killed by our government. In other words you tell me which is more dangerous

Vietnam was a just war, much like Korea, it was just executed badly.

[Rojava Free State]

the assumption that we are somehow exempt from such scenarios implies we are not human like they were.

"it can't happen here" is a TERRIBLE defense your running.

Tyranny has already happened: there are limits on the type of gun you can buy for instance. Invasions of your privacy. Imprisonment of people for drug crimes that should be their business. But armed resistance is not the appropriate response and you know it. I know you know it, because you're talking all about the subject and you wouldn't be if you were an armed rebel.

As I see it, governments and particularly the federal government have already violated people's rights. But unlike you I'm not worried about that getting further out of control and becoming a Soviet or Nazi style tyranny.

And why is that? If no one stands in their way, why would it not get worse?

When a government violates human rights, violence is a totally appropriate response, whether in South Africa, Northern Ireland, Lebanon, Hong Kong or here.

[Nazeroth]

the assumption that we are somehow exempt from such scenarios implies we are not human like they were.

"it can't happen here" is a TERRIBLE defense your running.

Tyranny has already happened: there are limits on the type of gun you can buy for instance. Invasions of your privacy. Imprisonment of people for drug crimes that should be their business. But armed resistance is not the appropriate response and you know it. I know you know it, because you're talking all about the subject and you wouldn't be if you were an armed rebel.

As I see it, governments and particularly the federal government have already violated people's rights. But unlike you I'm not worried about that getting further out of control and becoming a Soviet or Nazi style tyranny.

"They have already abused there power, there is no reason to think they will continue to"

[Rojava Free State]

https://www.globalresearch.ca/us-has-killed-more-than-20-million-people-in-37-victim-nations-since-world-war-ii/5492051

Btw in response to Nobel hobos, according to this research study, the US has killed 20 million people in foreign wars since WWII. Keep in mind that WWII is not included. Most of these casualties were civilians, and the wars since WWII include vietnam, Afghanistan and iraq along with Persian gulf and korea. Many of these wars never should have been fought.

800,000 people killed by our civil war vs 20 million killed by our government. In other words you tell me which is more dangerous

Vietnam was a just war, much like Korea, it was just executed badly.

"Just a war" yeah ight. Lemme know when terrorists cause more destruction

Lemme know when this happens because of random wingnuts and not a government: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-23427726

[Rojava Free State]

https://www.globalresearch.ca/us-has-killed-more-than-20-million-people-in-37-victim-nations-since-world-war-ii/5492051

Btw in response to Nobel hobos, according to this research study, the US has killed 20 million people in foreign wars since WWII. Keep in mind that WWII is not included. Most of these casualties were civilians, and the wars since WWII include vietnam, Afghanistan and iraq along with Persian gulf and korea. Many of these wars never should have been fought.

800,000 people killed by our civil war vs 20 million killed by our government. In other words you tell me which is more dangerous

that's not even counting the native americans

When we restrict the time frame of people killed by our government, it's still in the millions. Can anyone remember the last time random terror attacks killed millions? no, which is why governments are a bigger threat than any terrorist ever could dream of being unless they got a hold of smallpox

[Nazeroth]

that's not even counting the native americans

When we restrict the time frame of people killed by our government, it's still in the millions. Can anyone remember the last time random terror attacks killed millions? no, which is why governments are a bigger threat than any terrorist ever could dream of being unless they got a hold of smallpox

agreed

these people fail to realize just how horrible of a record government have with weapons

ironically they want to take guns/restrict those who are the least capable of mass damage and concentrate that power into the hands of those who wield that damage.

[The Black Forrest]

Sorry. I thought this was the 2020 US Presidential thread.

[Telconi]

Sorry. I thought this was the 2020 US Presidential thread.

You thought correct.

[Kargintina the Third]

Sorry. I thought this was the 2020 US Presidential thread.

So did I.

This is rather entertaining though

[Nazeroth]

Sorry. I thought this was the 2020 US Presidential thread.

So did I.

This is rather entertaining though

I mean, its relavent though, this election is a special one considering the build up and events that have brought us here.

[Nobel Hobos 2]

OK considering wars instigated by Federal government I admit they kill more people than the civil war. Them being foreigners doesn't make it alright.

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

Considering your past behavior and posting (X).




*shrug* not much I can do to convince you other wise

I guess we're at an impasse then, I suppose we'll just continue hating one another forever.

I don't hate you. I never said that I did. I don't hate anyone on NSG really. I dissagree, yes. But hate? No.

[San Lumen]

Sorry. I thought this was the 2020 US Presidential thread.

So did I.

This is rather entertaining though

I love how we went from government reform to whatever this is about

[Shrillland]

So did I.

This is rather entertaining though

I love how we went from government reform to whatever this is about

I tried, but there's no stopping these trains until they reach Mod Station.