2020 US General Election Thread IV: The Battle Begins

[Nobel Hobos 2]

This is why Sanders will likely lose the Democratic nomination, that and he don't have majority support. You people aren't loyal to the party. How do you expect to win with such an attitude? You are deluding yourselves. You come from outside the party, as usurpers. At least Bloomberg will support whoever the party nominates and so will his voters. Looks like a lot of Sanders crowd can't reciprocate. So don't be at all surprised when its time for all you to get your asses fucked. Count on it.

Bloomberg is the exact opposite of everything the democrats stand for. Sanders isn’t going to lose the nomination, mainly because he has people who aren’t party hacks. He has independent support

Do you define Biden, Buttigieg, Klobuchar and Warren as "party hacks"?

The reason I ask is that delegates for some combination of those will very likely have the power to take the nomination away from Sanders.

The 15% of delegates who have no pledged allegiance to any of them, I think we can safely say are "party hacks" ...

[Cedoria]

Bloomberg was a Republican until a couple of years ago, and endorsed Bush and all his fuckery for re-election against Kerry in 2004 and congressional Republicans in 2007. If he’s the candidate, you frankly lose the right to lecture anybody else about “party loyalty”

How he responded to the race allegations shows him to be unreliable of his change of heart at best. If his system supports the nom no matter who that's nice but he at the top of untrustworthiness for me.

He also claimed “nobody ever asked about Stop and Frisk” until he ran for President.
Apparently a literal fucking court order telling him to knock it off with racial profiling doesn’t count as “anybody”, not to mention him defending it until the day he announced he was running.
Are people really stupid enough to think that convenient change of heart is genuine? Untrustworthy barely covers it with Bloomberg, he’s a snake.

Also worth mentioning his buddy buddy relationship with the murderers of Kashoggi. Christ at least Sanders is smart enough to know Saudi Arabia is not your friend,

[Uiiop]

Bloomberg is the exact opposite of everything the democrats stand for. Sanders isn’t going to lose the nomination, mainly because he has people who aren’t party hacks. He has independent support

Do you define Biden, Buttigieg, Klobuchar and Warren as "party hacks"?

The reason I ask is that delegates for some combination of those will very likely have the power to take the nomination away from Sanders.

The 15% of delegates who have no pledged allegiance to any of them, I think we can safely say are "party hacks" ...

Therm's seem to bee purely talking how grassroots and getting people to vote for them.
So how those hacks would act come second round and the like is a different question.
I'd doubt they use what's practically the "Vote X to die" route if one must have an answer.

[Uiiop]

How he responded to the race allegations shows him to be unreliable of his change of heart at best. If his system supports the nom no matter who that's nice but he at the top of untrustworthiness for me.

He also claimed “nobody ever asked about Stop and Frisk” until he ran for President.
Apparently a literal fucking court order telling him to knock it off with racial profiling doesn’t count as “anybody”, not to mention him defending it until the day he announced he was running.
Are people really stupid enough to think that convenient change of heart is genuine? Untrustworthy barely covers it with Bloomberg, he’s a snake.

Also worth mentioning his buddy buddy relationship with the murderers of Kashoggi. Christ at least Sanders is smart enough to know Saudi Arabia is not your friend,

Link?

That's fucked up. It's like everytime he answers he finds new ways to dig.

[Cedoria]

He also claimed “nobody ever asked about Stop and Frisk” until he ran for President.
Apparently a literal fucking court order telling him to knock it off with racial profiling doesn’t count as “anybody”, not to mention him defending it until the day he announced he was running.
Are people really stupid enough to think that convenient change of heart is genuine? Untrustworthy barely covers it with Bloomberg, he’s a snake.

Also worth mentioning his buddy buddy relationship with the murderers of Kashoggi. Christ at least Sanders is smart enough to know Saudi Arabia is not your friend,

Link?

That's fucked up. It's like everytime he answers he finds new ways to dig.

He said it in a CBS interview. You can probably find the original but here's an article with quotes and a clip.

https://www.mediaite.com/tv/mike-bloomb ... president/

It's not like it isn't a matter of record that he spent YEARS defending this shit in the courts, and continued defending it after he left office. People can look this shit up.

[Outer Sparta]

How he responded to the race allegations shows him to be unreliable of his change of heart at best. If his system supports the nom no matter who that's nice but he at the top of untrustworthiness for me.

He also claimed “nobody ever asked about Stop and Frisk” until he ran for President.
Apparently a literal fucking court order telling him to knock it off with racial profiling doesn’t count as “anybody”, not to mention him defending it until the day he announced he was running.
Are people really stupid enough to think that convenient change of heart is genuine? Untrustworthy barely covers it with Bloomberg, he’s a snake.

Also worth mentioning his buddy buddy relationship with the murderers of Kashoggi. Christ at least Sanders is smart enough to know Saudi Arabia is not your friend,

The very fact that Bloomberg is a billionaire should be enough of a red flag.

[Diopolis]

Don't get yourself a warning. Or if you do make it pay.

add me on linkedin

I’m sorry I don’t know your LinkedIn profile.

[Cedoria]

He also claimed “nobody ever asked about Stop and Frisk” until he ran for President.
Apparently a literal fucking court order telling him to knock it off with racial profiling doesn’t count as “anybody”, not to mention him defending it until the day he announced he was running.
Are people really stupid enough to think that convenient change of heart is genuine? Untrustworthy barely covers it with Bloomberg, he’s a snake.

Also worth mentioning his buddy buddy relationship with the murderers of Kashoggi. Christ at least Sanders is smart enough to know Saudi Arabia is not your friend,

The very fact that Bloomberg is a billionaire should be enough of a red flag.

I mean, for me it is, but some people have a rather curious delusion that wealth = virtue. A peculiarly common one in parts of America.

[Outer Sparta]

The very fact that Bloomberg is a billionaire should be enough of a red flag.

I mean, for me it is, but some people have a rather curious delusion that wealth = virtue. A peculiarly common one in parts of America.

By that logic of wealth = virtue, Jeff Bezos would get all the votes and sweep the presidency.

[Cedoria]

I mean, for me it is, but some people have a rather curious delusion that wealth = virtue. A peculiarly common one in parts of America.

By that logic of wealth = virtue, Jeff Bezos would get all the votes and sweep the presidency.

Don't laugh, Bloomberg may still yet. Corporate press is shilling for him pretty hard now Biden's sinking.

[Vetalia]

By that logic of wealth = virtue, Jeff Bezos would get all the votes and sweep the presidency.

Don't laugh, Bloomberg may still yet. Corporate press is shilling for him pretty hard now Biden's sinking.

I guess they really want Trump to have a second term then...

[Outer Sparta]

By that logic of wealth = virtue, Jeff Bezos would get all the votes and sweep the presidency.

Don't laugh, Bloomberg may still yet. Corporate press is shilling for him pretty hard now Biden's sinking.

If Bernie gets the nomination someone has to check on Chris Matthews, a huge corporate media shill.

[Outer Sparta]

Don't laugh, Bloomberg may still yet. Corporate press is shilling for him pretty hard now Biden's sinking.

I guess they really want Trump to have a second term then...

It's in their interest to do so. The media barons don't want to pay taxes.

[Cedoria]

Don't laugh, Bloomberg may still yet. Corporate press is shilling for him pretty hard now Biden's sinking.

If Bernie gets the nomination someone has to check on Chris Matthews, a huge corporate media shill.

He'll be alright when he can get his free anti-psychosis meds under Bernie's medicare for all:)

[Cedoria]

Don't laugh, Bloomberg may still yet. Corporate press is shilling for him pretty hard now Biden's sinking.

I guess they really want Trump to have a second term then...

They do. Sanders winning is utterly terrifying for them. Better to have one corporate oligarch against another. Can't lose either way.

[Outer Sparta]

If Bernie gets the nomination someone has to check on Chris Matthews, a huge corporate media shill.

He'll be alright when he can get his free anti-psychosis meds under Bernie's medicare for all:)

Another reason why I want Bernie to win nomination: to see how corporate media shills like Chris Cillizza, Chris Matthews, and Chuck Todd react to the news. It will be splendid.

[Cedoria]

He'll be alright when he can get his free anti-psychosis meds under Bernie's medicare for all:)

Another reason why I want Bernie to win nomination: to see how corporate media shills like Chris Cillizza, Chris Matthews, and Chuck Todd react to the news. It will be splendid.

The Chaotic Evil in me just wants to see the Sanders v Trump debates... Which would be fucking hilarious.

Bloomberg v Trump would bore me to sleep.

And did Chuck Todd issue any apology for calling people 'brownshirts' yet? And these people are supposedly serious commentators?

Respect to Chris Hayes though, he did a reasonably good interview with Sanders the other day. Tough but fair questions.

[Outer Sparta]

Another reason why I want Bernie to win nomination: to see how corporate media shills like Chris Cillizza, Chris Matthews, and Chuck Todd react to the news. It will be splendid.

The Chaotic Evil in me just wants to see the Sanders v Trump debates... Which would be fucking hilarious.

Bloomberg v Trump would bore me to sleep.

And did Chuck Todd issue any apology for calling people 'brownshirts' yet? And these people are supposedly serious commentators?

Respect to Chris Hayes though, he did a reasonably good interview with Sanders the other day. Tough but fair questions.

Chris Hayes is one of the better analysts. But if you have Chuck Todd and Chris Cillizza somehow employed at their respective jobs, you know how shitty the media landscape has become.

[Cedoria]

The Chaotic Evil in me just wants to see the Sanders v Trump debates... Which would be fucking hilarious.

Bloomberg v Trump would bore me to sleep.

And did Chuck Todd issue any apology for calling people 'brownshirts' yet? And these people are supposedly serious commentators?

Respect to Chris Hayes though, he did a reasonably good interview with Sanders the other day. Tough but fair questions.

Chris Hayes is one of the better analysts. But if you have Chuck Todd and Chris Cillizza somehow employed at their respective jobs, you know how shitty the media landscape has become.

Yep. Its pretty crappy. I mean, everyone KNOWS Fox is trash, but the others ain't much better.
Though even on Fox Chris Wallace is at least a real journalist, for all that he's mostly there to run cover for all the loons.

[Vetalia]

I guess they really want Trump to have a second term then...

They do. Sanders winning is utterly terrifying for them. Better to have one corporate oligarch against another. Can't lose either way.

What's funny is Mike is an order of magnitude worse than Trump in that regard.

[Outer Sparta]

Chris Hayes is one of the better analysts. But if you have Chuck Todd and Chris Cillizza somehow employed at their respective jobs, you know how shitty the media landscape has become.

Yep. Its pretty crappy. I mean, everyone KNOWS Fox is trash, but the others ain't much better.
Though even on Fox Chris Wallace is at least a real journalist, for all that he's mostly there to run cover for all the loons.

I don't pay attention to Fox since I know who they are. I focus more on the crappy journalism and news coverage by CNN, MSNBC, NYT, and other such media sources.

Also, Shepard Smith left Fox so that leaves Wallace as the only real journo there.

[Cedoria]

Yep. Its pretty crappy. I mean, everyone KNOWS Fox is trash, but the others ain't much better.
Though even on Fox Chris Wallace is at least a real journalist, for all that he's mostly there to run cover for all the loons.

I don't pay attention to Fox since I know who they are. I focus more on the crappy journalism and news coverage by CNN, MSNBC, NYT, and other such media sources.

Also, Shepard Smith left Fox so that leaves Wallace as the only real journo there.

As I said, everyone knows Fox is trash. But that shouldn't give the others a pass.

[Cedoria]

They do. Sanders winning is utterly terrifying for them. Better to have one corporate oligarch against another. Can't lose either way.

What's funny is Mike is an order of magnitude worse than Trump in that regard.

In what regard? Being an oligarch? Yeah. Trump is just far less covert about wearing his brutish bigotry and stupidity on his sleeve. Bloomberg at least tries to hide his crappiness.

But it's a genuine toss-up as to who is worse, both personally and politically.

[Outer Sparta]

I don't pay attention to Fox since I know who they are. I focus more on the crappy journalism and news coverage by CNN, MSNBC, NYT, and other such media sources.

Also, Shepard Smith left Fox so that leaves Wallace as the only real journo there.

As I said, everyone knows Fox is trash. But that shouldn't give the others a pass.

Yep. The others aren't much better (even though outlets like NYT are supposed to be better but are bogged down by crappy news coverage, framing, headline writing, and an op-ed that lets anyone write drivel).

[Vetalia]

In what regard? Being an oligarch? Yeah. Trump is just far less covert about wearing his brutish bigotry and stupidity on his sleeve. Bloomberg at least tries to hide his crappiness.

But it's a genuine toss-up as to who is worse, both personally and politically.

Trump at least is no friend of China and has been pretty forceful in dealing with them, compared to Clinton, Bush and Obama who pretty much let them destroy millions of well-paying manufacturing jobs through trade and currency manipulation with no consequences. Ham-fisted approach or not, he really is on the side of the blue collar worker in that regard.

Mike by comparison is a quisling when it comes to China and outright admires their authoritarian government...he'd probably accept honorary CPC membership if it was offered and lease the Washington Monument to Huawei.