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Who do you think will win South Carolina?

Sanders
27
59%
Warren
0
No votes
Biden
18
39%
Buttigieg
0
No votes
Klobuchar
1
2%
Steyer
0
No votes
 
Total votes : 46

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Postby Torrocca » Sun Feb 09, 2020 4:27 pm

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Do you just happen to have a pile of, like, five flashcards on your desk to refer to whenever you need to respond to somebody calling out blatantly corrupt election-rigging fuckery from the DNC?

Because this is about the fiftieth time in a tenth as many days that you've gone and repetitiously said that we're spewing "conspiracy nonsense" for calling out blatantly corrupt election-rigging fuckery from the DNC.

I want to see the receipts!!!


So you do have a pile of five or so flashcards on your desk to refer to whenever you need a quick rebuttal to respond to somebody calling out blatantly corrupt election-rigging fuckery from the DNC. Fascinating.

Face it, Lumen. Your precious DNC is corrupt as holy high hell.
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Postby San Lumen » Sun Feb 09, 2020 4:28 pm

Ifreann wrote:
San Lumen wrote:I want to see the receipts!!!

Look at that Twitter thread. There are archived versions of her LinkedIn page from before she scrubbed it.

Show hard evidence of outright fraud. Thus far I have I seen none

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Postby Vassenor » Sun Feb 09, 2020 4:28 pm

But I thought the party conspiracy was supposed to be forcing Biden.
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Postby Zurkerx » Sun Feb 09, 2020 4:29 pm

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San Lumen wrote:Enough already with this conspiracy nonsense. This my Democrat’s lose because they can’t unite as a party


You don't at least see any conflict of interest there? Wtf


There's definitely a conflict of interest no doubt though I'm a bit dubious if this means "rigging for Pete". Still, not the best move of the Nevada Democratic Party although, they did get rid of that app.
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Postby San Lumen » Sun Feb 09, 2020 4:29 pm

Torrocca wrote:
San Lumen wrote:I want to see the receipts!!!


So you do have a pile of five or so flashcards on your desk to refer to whenever you need a quick rebuttal to respond to somebody calling out blatantly corrupt election-rigging fuckery from the DNC. Fascinating.

Face it, Lumen. Your precious DNC is corrupt as holy high hell.

So anytime Bernie doesn’t win or is criticized it’s a conspiracy. Got it

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Postby Ifreann » Sun Feb 09, 2020 4:29 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Can you offer any defence for the decision to put someone associated with the Buttigieg campaign in charge of voter protection in a primary in which Buttigieg is competing?

They wanted who they thought was best for the job?

The best person for the job would have been someone impartial. Someone who doesn't have such an obvious conflict of interest.
Why does everything have to be a conspiracy against sanders

I'm not saying there is a conspiracy against Sanders. I'm saying that this is blatantly and stupidly corrupt.
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Postby Torrocca » Sun Feb 09, 2020 4:30 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Look at that Twitter thread. There are archived versions of her LinkedIn page from before she scrubbed it.

Show hard evidence of outright fraud. Thus far I have I seen none


I'd imagine that it's rather easy to miss evidence when you purposefully blind yourself whenever somebody shows evidence.
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Postby South Odreria 2 » Sun Feb 09, 2020 4:30 pm

The conspiracy is pushing Dion Waiters as Democratic nominee even as voters clearly want Vermin Supreme.
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Postby San Lumen » Sun Feb 09, 2020 4:31 pm

Torrocca wrote:
San Lumen wrote:Show hard evidence of outright fraud. Thus far I have I seen none


I'd imagine that it's rather easy to miss evidence when you purposefully blind yourself whenever somebody shows evidence.

You or anyone else has yet to show hard evidence of fraud. I hope Bernie loses on Tuesday

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Postby Necroghastia » Sun Feb 09, 2020 4:32 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
I'd imagine that it's rather easy to miss evidence when you purposefully blind yourself whenever somebody shows evidence.

You or anyone else has yet to show hard evidence of fraud. I hope Bernie loses on Tuesday

Odd, coming from someone who claims to be against the Democrats shooting themselves in the foot.
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Postby Torrocca » Sun Feb 09, 2020 4:32 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
So you do have a pile of five or so flashcards on your desk to refer to whenever you need a quick rebuttal to respond to somebody calling out blatantly corrupt election-rigging fuckery from the DNC. Fascinating.

Face it, Lumen. Your precious DNC is corrupt as holy high hell.

So anytime Bernie doesn’t win or is criticized it’s a conspiracy. Got it


This is just incredible.

Your ad nauseam style of posting aside, I never said anything about a conspiracy against Bernie. I pointed out that the NVDP was taking on a paid Buttigieg organizer and accusing them of planning to rig the election in his favor. Try and discern the difference.
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Postby Kargintina the Third » Sun Feb 09, 2020 4:33 pm

Why would the DNC want Buttigieg instead of Biden
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Postby Torrocca » Sun Feb 09, 2020 4:34 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
I'd imagine that it's rather easy to miss evidence when you purposefully blind yourself whenever somebody shows evidence.

You or anyone else has yet to show hard evidence of fraud. I hope Bernie loses on Tuesday


Neat. I'll be sure to keep that in mind and make sure to stay home on November 3rd if one of your favored Liberal candidates somehow gets the nomination.
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Postby Militant Costco » Sun Feb 09, 2020 4:34 pm

Kargintina the Third wrote:Why would the DNC want Buttigieg instead of Biden

He's showing more promise than Biden right now.
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Postby Ifreann » Sun Feb 09, 2020 4:34 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Look at that Twitter thread. There are archived versions of her LinkedIn page from before she scrubbed it.

Show hard evidence of outright fraud. Thus far I have I seen none

Are you fucking joking? I'm saying that the person in charge of voter protection at the Nevada primary is associated with the Buttigieg campaign. I'm telling you that the evidence for this is right there in that Twitter thread. Why the fuck do you want evidence of fraud when I'm not saying that fraud occurred?
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Postby Gormwood » Sun Feb 09, 2020 4:34 pm

Bucket's packed with crabs today.
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Postby Torrocca » Sun Feb 09, 2020 4:35 pm

Kargintina the Third wrote:Why would the DNC want Buttigieg instead of Biden


Buttigieg's practically a younger, healthier Biden who also happens to be somebody who'd score the DNC woke points because he happens to be gay.
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Postby San Lumen » Sun Feb 09, 2020 4:35 pm

Torrocca wrote:
San Lumen wrote:So anytime Bernie doesn’t win or is criticized it’s a conspiracy. Got it


This is just incredible.

Your ad nauseam style of posting aside, I never said anything about a conspiracy against Bernie. I pointed out that the NVDP was taking on a paid Buttigieg organizer and accusing them of planning to rig the election in his favor. Try and discern the difference.

That proves nothing. Neither you nor anyone else has proven outright fraud. I think some are just upset Bernie didn’t win and might not on tuesday
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Postby Ifreann » Sun Feb 09, 2020 4:35 pm

Gormwood wrote:Bucket's packed with crabs today.

I am now thinking about Crab Battle.

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Postby San Lumen » Sun Feb 09, 2020 4:36 pm

Torrocca wrote:
San Lumen wrote:You or anyone else has yet to show hard evidence of fraud. I hope Bernie loses on Tuesday


Neat. I'll be sure to keep that in mind and make sure to stay home on November 3rd if one of your favored Liberal candidates somehow gets the nomination.

Yeah because re-electing Trump is much better

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Postby Torrocca » Sun Feb 09, 2020 4:36 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
This is just incredible.

Your ad nauseam style of posting aside, I never said anything about a conspiracy against Bernie. I pointed out that the NVDP was taking on a paid Buttigieg organizer and accusing them of planning to rig the election in his favor. Try and discern the difference.

That proves nothing. Neither you nor anyone else has proven outright fraud. I think some are just upset Bernie didn’t win and might on Tuesday


Have you considered stopping and thinking about what we're saying for even just one solitary second before you spew irrelevant nonsense at us?

You'd have much healthier debates with people that way.
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Postby South Odreria 2 » Sun Feb 09, 2020 4:37 pm

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Postby Militant Costco » Sun Feb 09, 2020 4:37 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
Neat. I'll be sure to keep that in mind and make sure to stay home on November 3rd if one of your favored Liberal candidates somehow gets the nomination.

Yeah because re-electing Trump is much better

If we're being honest here, with the current economic situation and being an incumbent, there is a much higher chance of Trump winning than Pete if it comes down to it.
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Postby San Lumen » Sun Feb 09, 2020 4:38 pm

Militant Costco wrote:
San Lumen wrote:Yeah because re-electing Trump is much better

If we're being honest here, with the current economic situation and being an incumbent, there is a much higher chance of Trump winning than Pete if it comes down to it.

Then I hope people enjoy the death of the planet and democracy

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Postby Torrocca » Sun Feb 09, 2020 4:38 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
Neat. I'll be sure to keep that in mind and make sure to stay home on November 3rd if one of your favored Liberal candidates somehow gets the nomination.

Yeah because re-electing Trump is much better


Four more years of Trump and then electing a Socialist who will act on climate change will be better than eight more years of an ineffectual Liberal administration and then electing a Socialist who will act on climate change.

Sorry, not sorry, but given my particular set of political beliefs, I'm only married to the blue D out of convenience. You're gonna have to try harder if you're gonna wanna be swaying me to a Liberal candidate.
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