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Who do you think will win South Carolina?

Sanders
27
59%
Warren
0
No votes
Biden
18
39%
Buttigieg
0
No votes
Klobuchar
1
2%
Steyer
0
No votes
 
Total votes : 46

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Postby Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana » Sun Jan 26, 2020 5:20 pm

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Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana wrote:Soleimani’s leadership and unprecedented risk taking is near-irreplaceable

Soleimani wasn't the leader of Hezbollah. He was the commander of the Iranian Quds Force.

No shit, are you aware of Hezbollah’s ties with Iran?
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Postby Nobel Hobos 2 » Sun Jan 26, 2020 5:20 pm

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Nobel Hobos 2 wrote:Referenda on the Primary election day? That seems a bit dodgy, as four times as many people vote on Election day.


We have them with the general election in Mass.


It seems the fairest way to me.
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Postby Rojava Free State » Sun Jan 26, 2020 5:21 pm

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I made a joke that trump would try to claim he has done the greatest thing in history by becoming president. Literally today a trump campaign ad preceded the video I was watching and he said "we've launched the greatest, largest movement in American history, possibly in world history." This is just like when I joked about him leaking state secrets and he leaked that photo of a drone over Iran or when I joked about him saying his opponents were in hell and then he suggested that john dingell went to hell. The jokes keep coming true, and the scary thing is one of my most recent jokes was about a more unhinged, unchecked trump drone striking a CNN news van in Yemen after having someone give false info to a pilot that the van was a terrorist vehicle. I can imagine him making dark jokes at a rally the next night like "where do CNN reporters go when they die? In every direction," and "they say rest in peace but those journalists and camera men were in too many pieces for me to count!" God, he might just do everything


Can you make some jokes about Elizabeth Warren getting elected president?


It's hard since she's not obnoxious and as vulgar and crazy as trump is but I'll try
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Postby Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana » Sun Jan 26, 2020 5:22 pm

Rojava Free State wrote:I'm legit considering emailing Trump's campaign team and pretending to be a huge fan so they'll pass along some of my speech ideas to the president. Ideas such as:

•All of human history has been leading up to a trump presidency
•There doesn't need to be another election because trump is perfect
•Trump is the Roman God Mars and is superior to Abraham God
•Threatening to set up gulags in america for his opponents
•The first person to criticize trump is the big dumb
•The trump baby blimp was the worst creation in history
•The 2016 election held more significance than the pearl harbor attacks
•Kanye West will be the new vice president
•Free Yeezus albums will be handed out at the election night party
•Trump will make his daily life in the white house a TV series called "celebrity a president."
•Ted Cruz's wife did Tiananmen Square
•Ted Cruz is the worst thing to come out of Canada since incels

It's a long shot but maybe it could work

It would be hilarious if it actually did

They can probably tell its a troll, it’s a fairly common thing people do with political campaigns
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Postby San Lumen » Sun Jan 26, 2020 5:22 pm

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Nobel Hobos 2 wrote:Referenda on the Primary election day? That seems a bit dodgy, as four times as many people vote on Election day.


It has to do with the timing of when they get on the ballot. It's even worse in a presidential year since a lot of states have two primary dates. Wisconsin's April primary is just for the presidency, everything else is in June, I believe.

That’s not usual. Other states do that

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Postby Aureumterra » Sun Jan 26, 2020 5:23 pm

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Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana wrote:Soleimani’s leadership and unprecedented risk taking is near-irreplaceable

Soleimani wasn't the leader of Hezbollah. He was the commander of the Iranian Quds Force.

:eek:

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Postby Post War America » Sun Jan 26, 2020 5:24 pm

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Soleimani was replaced with one of his direct protegees, I doubt Hezbollah is going anywhere.

Soleimani’s leadership and unprecedented risk taking is near-irreplaceable


Assuming that is an accurate statement, it does not mean that anybody that he directly mentored would be an incompetent buffoon.
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Postby Aureumterra » Sun Jan 26, 2020 5:25 pm

Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:I'm legit considering emailing Trump's campaign team and pretending to be a huge fan so they'll pass along some of my speech ideas to the president. Ideas such as:

•All of human history has been leading up to a trump presidency
•There doesn't need to be another election because trump is perfect
•Trump is the Roman God Mars and is superior to Abraham God
•Threatening to set up gulags in america for his opponents
•The first person to criticize trump is the big dumb
•The trump baby blimp was the worst creation in history
•The 2016 election held more significance than the pearl harbor attacks
•Kanye West will be the new vice president
•Free Yeezus albums will be handed out at the election night party
•Trump will make his daily life in the white house a TV series called "celebrity a president."
•Ted Cruz's wife did Tiananmen Square
•Ted Cruz is the worst thing to come out of Canada since incels

It's a long shot but maybe it could work

It would be hilarious if it actually did

They can probably tell its a troll, it’s a fairly common thing people do with political campaigns

Steven Crowder did that with the O’Rourke campaign in 2018

He posted himself doing it on youtube and it got millions of views though, so I’m sure the Beto people saw it and discarded said email
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Postby Rojava Free State » Sun Jan 26, 2020 5:25 pm

Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:I'm legit considering emailing Trump's campaign team and pretending to be a huge fan so they'll pass along some of my speech ideas to the president. Ideas such as:

•All of human history has been leading up to a trump presidency
•There doesn't need to be another election because trump is perfect
•Trump is the Roman God Mars and is superior to Abraham God
•Threatening to set up gulags in america for his opponents
•The first person to criticize trump is the big dumb
•The trump baby blimp was the worst creation in history
•The 2016 election held more significance than the pearl harbor attacks
•Kanye West will be the new vice president
•Free Yeezus albums will be handed out at the election night party
•Trump will make his daily life in the white house a TV series called "celebrity a president."
•Ted Cruz's wife did Tiananmen Square
•Ted Cruz is the worst thing to come out of Canada since incels

It's a long shot but maybe it could work

It would be hilarious if it actually did

They can probably tell its a troll, it’s a fairly common thing people do with political campaigns


Considering how trump operates, he would probably look at these talking points and say "aight, bet." He already referred to himself as the second coming of God and accused Ted Cruz's dad of shooting JFK, so he's got a track record for crazy
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Postby The Sherpa Empire » Sun Jan 26, 2020 5:27 pm

Rojava Free State wrote:
The Sherpa Empire wrote:
Can you make some jokes about Elizabeth Warren getting elected president?


It's hard since she's not obnoxious and as vulgar and crazy as trump is but I'll try


That didn't stop conspiracy theorists from trying to start a sex scandal about her and some 24 year old marine.
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Postby Rojava Free State » Sun Jan 26, 2020 5:28 pm

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It's hard since she's not obnoxious and as vulgar and crazy as trump is but I'll try


That didn't stop conspiracy theorists from trying to start a sex scandal about her and some 24 year old marine.


Bruh
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Postby Nobel Hobos 2 » Sun Jan 26, 2020 5:29 pm

Rojava Free State wrote:I'm legit considering emailing Trump's campaign team and pretending to be a huge fan so they'll pass along some of my speech ideas to the president. Ideas such as:

•All of human history has been leading up to a trump presidency
•There doesn't need to be another election because trump is perfect
•Trump is the Roman God Mars and is superior to Abraham God
•Threatening to set up gulags in america for his opponents
•The first person to criticize trump is the big dumb
•The trump baby blimp was the worst creation in history
•The 2016 election held more significance than the pearl harbor attacks
•Kanye West will be the new vice president
•Free Yeezus albums will be handed out at the election night party
•Trump will make his daily life in the white house a TV series called "celebrity a president."
•Ted Cruz's wife did Tiananmen Square
•Ted Cruz is the worst thing to come out of Canada since incels

It's a long shot but maybe it could work

It would be hilarious if it actually did


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Postby The Sherpa Empire » Sun Jan 26, 2020 5:29 pm

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That didn't stop conspiracy theorists from trying to start a sex scandal about her and some 24 year old marine.


Bruh


Bruh, what?
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Postby Nobel Hobos 2 » Sun Jan 26, 2020 5:34 pm

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It has to do with the timing of when they get on the ballot. It's even worse in a presidential year since a lot of states have two primary dates. Wisconsin's April primary is just for the presidency, everything else is in June, I believe.

That’s not usual. Other states do that


Since a referendum is supposedly the will of the people, it should be held at a time to get the most actual people voting on it.

Primary day (Presidential where there are two) will be heavily biased towards Democrats this year, though I don't suppose you mind that.
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Postby San Lumen » Sun Jan 26, 2020 5:35 pm

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San Lumen wrote:That’s not usual. Other states do that


Since a referendum is supposedly the will of the people, it should be held at a time to get the most actual people voting on it.

Primary day (Presidential where there are two) will be heavily biased towards Democrats this year, though I don't suppose you mind that.

I think referendums should be held with the general election. Specials should be held if possible on the day of primary

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Postby Nobel Hobos 2 » Sun Jan 26, 2020 5:38 pm

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Since a referendum is supposedly the will of the people, it should be held at a time to get the most actual people voting on it.

Primary day (Presidential where there are two) will be heavily biased towards Democrats this year, though I don't suppose you mind that.

I think referendums should be held with the general election. Specials should be held if possible on the day of primary


Special elections probably have the pulling power to get out 30% or so. Not such a bad idea, though I think I prefer general election day.
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Postby Zurkerx » Sun Jan 26, 2020 5:39 pm

Ah, I been looking for this thread. In regards to Iowa, as my vote stands, I don't think there will be a clear winner.
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Postby San Lumen » Sun Jan 26, 2020 5:42 pm

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San Lumen wrote:I think referendums should be held with the general election. Specials should be held if possible on the day of primary


Special elections probably have the pulling power to get out 30% or so. Not such a bad idea, though I think I prefer general election day.

If an incumbent leaves before their term is up and it’s early in the year I don’t think it’s fair to leave the seat open for an entire year. In most states a special election is required

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Postby Nobel Hobos 2 » Sun Jan 26, 2020 5:49 pm

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Special elections probably have the pulling power to get out 30% or so. Not such a bad idea, though I think I prefer general election day.

If an incumbent leaves before their term is up and it’s early in the year I don’t think it’s fair to leave the seat open for an entire year. In most states a special election is required


It could be almost two years, so the 'primary solution' is rather inadequate being less than one year.

I think states specify the next "regular election day" for specials, which I guess you could claim is a primary election. Or maybe "regular" rules that out. In any case I know it can be state elections, and those are sometimes held in off years.

Empty seats can be dealt with by a Governor's appointment. Imo, to avoid the problem of Governors being the other party, Senators and House members should be able to nominate some other person to take their place if they die or retire for some reason.
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Postby San Lumen » Sun Jan 26, 2020 5:51 pm

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San Lumen wrote:If an incumbent leaves before their term is up and it’s early in the year I don’t think it’s fair to leave the seat open for an entire year. In most states a special election is required


It could be almost two years, so the 'primary solution' is rather inadequate being less than one year.

I think states specify the next "regular election day" for specials, which I guess you could claim is a primary election. Or maybe "regular" rules that out. In any case I know it can be state elections, and those are sometimes held in off years.

Empty seats can be dealt with by a Governor's appointment. Imo, to avoid the problem of Governors being the other party, Senators and House members should be able to nominate some other person to take their place if they die or retire for some reason.

The law varies by state. Some states such as Maryland do gubernatorial appointment but they must be of the same party.

House vacancies are always filled by special election
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Postby Shrillland » Sun Jan 26, 2020 5:51 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Nobel Hobos 2 wrote:
Special elections probably have the pulling power to get out 30% or so. Not such a bad idea, though I think I prefer general election day.

If an incumbent leaves before their term is up and it’s early in the year I don’t think it’s fair to leave the seat open for an entire year. In most states a special election is required


They're lucky. Here, the outgoing incumbent's party decides who takes over.
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Postby Farnhamia » Sun Jan 26, 2020 5:52 pm

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Farnhamia wrote:Soleimani wasn't the leader of Hezbollah. He was the commander of the Iranian Quds Force.

:eek:

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Postby San Lumen » Sun Jan 26, 2020 5:52 pm

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San Lumen wrote:If an incumbent leaves before their term is up and it’s early in the year I don’t think it’s fair to leave the seat open for an entire year. In most states a special election is required


They're lucky. Here, the outgoing incumbent's party decides who takes over.

So you don’t have special elections?
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Postby Shrillland » Sun Jan 26, 2020 5:54 pm

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They're lucky. Here, the outgoing incumbent's party decides who takes over.

So you don’t know special elections?


Nope, we don't get them in Illinois, the county party or parties get together and choose. We get them for Federal races, but that's all. My own State Senator's quitting to become President of Bradley University and he handpicked his successor for the party to choose. Normally, it's whoever comes second in the primary if there is one. If it's an independent, then the Governor makes the selection.
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Postby San Lumen » Sun Jan 26, 2020 5:56 pm

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San Lumen wrote:So you don’t know special elections?


Nope, we don't get them in Illinois, the county party or parties get together and choose. We get them for Federal races, but that's all. My own State Senator's quitting to become President of Bradley University and he handpicked his successor for the party to choose. Normally, it's whoever comes second in the primary if there is one. If it's an independent, then the Governor makes the selection.

In New York the Governor must call a special election within a certain timeframe and sets the date. The nominees are chosen by convention

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