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Who do you think will win South Carolina?

Sanders
27
59%
Warren
0
No votes
Biden
18
39%
Buttigieg
0
No votes
Klobuchar
1
2%
Steyer
0
No votes
 
Total votes : 46

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Postby United States of Devonta » Sat Feb 22, 2020 9:01 pm

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Postby Nobel Hobos 2 » Sat Feb 22, 2020 9:10 pm

27% reporting

Bernie Sanders 46.6%
Joseph R. Biden Jr. 22.8
Pete Buttigieg 14.4
Elizabeth Warren 8.8
Tom Steyer 3.8
Amy Klobuchar 3.3

Main mover, Buttigieg, approaching the magic 15%
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Postby Kruiven » Sat Feb 22, 2020 9:15 pm

Indeed looking like it's gonna be the first time in history Biden has finished above 3rd.
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Postby Kruiven » Sat Feb 22, 2020 9:19 pm

Updated betting markets for the nomination:

Sanders 66%
Bloomberg 17%
Biden 13%
Clinton 6%
Buttigieg 6%
Warren 3%
Klobuchar 1%
Steyer 1%
Gabbard 1%

Hillary surges to 4th!
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Postby Shofercia » Sat Feb 22, 2020 9:43 pm

Wait, you mean to tell me that when Americans want an honest politician, Americans will vote for an honest politician? There's some Russian involvement here, must be investigated at once!

I wrote this parody on October 10th, 2017: viewtopic.php?p=32660693#p32660693

I cannot believe that Donald Trump would let the Russians hack the soccer game against Trinidad and Tobago on his watch. There is ample proof. First, the Russians completely confused Omar Gonzalez where the goal was with fake news. Hillary Clinton can verify it! Second, Tim Howard was totally blinded when Alvin Jones took the shoot. Some super-secret Putin Shiny Technology no doubt. I have 20 anonymous sources, all inside an insane asylum, that can totally verify that, so it should be good enough for CNN. Indeed, the only player brave enough to withstand the Russian attack had a Slavic last name. If that's not proof enough, I don't know what is! And for the US Soccer Federation to completely ignore this vital theory, without which the World cannot go on, is a travesty, a direct attack on America's Democracy! Something must be done! We need a Hollywood Producer, preferably a has been, to start investigating this right away. Trump's silence on this issue speaks volumes of his collusion with Russia!


If I may:

I cannot believe that Bernie Sanders would let the Russians hack the Nevada Caucas on his watch. There is ample proof. First, the Bernie Bros always repost fake news. Hillary Clinton can verify it! Second, Joe Biden, Mike Bloomberg, and the Neo Liberals were totally blinded to the concept of Memes. Some super-secret Putin Shiny Technology no doubt. I have 20 anonymous sources, all inside an insane asylum, that can totally verify that, so it should be good enough for CNN. Indeed, was Bernie's visit to the USSR decades before he had any presidential ambitions, not enough proof that he's colluding? If that's not proof enough, I don't know what is! And for the average voter to completely ignore this vital theory, without which the World cannot go on, is a travesty, a direct attack on America's Democracy! Something must be done! We need a Hollywood Producer, preferably a has been, to start investigating this right away. Sanders' silence on this issue speaks volumes of his collusion with Russia!
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Postby United States of Devonta » Sat Feb 22, 2020 9:50 pm

Shofercia wrote:Wait, you mean to tell me that when Americans want an honest politician, Americans will vote for an honest politician? There's some Russian involvement here, must be investigated at once!

I wrote this parody on October 10th, 2017: viewtopic.php?p=32660693#p32660693

I cannot believe that Donald Trump would let the Russians hack the soccer game against Trinidad and Tobago on his watch. There is ample proof. First, the Russians completely confused Omar Gonzalez where the goal was with fake news. Hillary Clinton can verify it! Second, Tim Howard was totally blinded when Alvin Jones took the shoot. Some super-secret Putin Shiny Technology no doubt. I have 20 anonymous sources, all inside an insane asylum, that can totally verify that, so it should be good enough for CNN. Indeed, the only player brave enough to withstand the Russian attack had a Slavic last name. If that's not proof enough, I don't know what is! And for the US Soccer Federation to completely ignore this vital theory, without which the World cannot go on, is a travesty, a direct attack on America's Democracy! Something must be done! We need a Hollywood Producer, preferably a has been, to start investigating this right away. Trump's silence on this issue speaks volumes of his collusion with Russia!


If I may:

I cannot believe that Bernie Sanders would let the Russians hack the Nevada Caucas on his watch. There is ample proof. First, the Bernie Bros always repost fake news. Hillary Clinton can verify it! Second, Joe Biden, Mike Bloomberg, and the Neo Liberals were totally blinded to the concept of Memes. Some super-secret Putin Shiny Technology no doubt. I have 20 anonymous sources, all inside an insane asylum, that can totally verify that, so it should be good enough for CNN. Indeed, was Bernie's visit to the USSR decades before he had any presidential ambitions, not enough proof that he's colluding? If that's not proof enough, I don't know what is! And for the average voter to completely ignore this vital theory, without which the World cannot go on, is a travesty, a direct attack on America's Democracy! Something must be done! We need a Hollywood Producer, preferably a has been, to start investigating this right away. Sanders' silence on this issue speaks volumes of his collusion with Russia!


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Postby Imperial Joseon » Sat Feb 22, 2020 9:51 pm

Kruiven wrote:Updated betting markets for the nomination:

Sanders 66%
Bloomberg 17%
Biden 13%
Clinton 6%
Buttigieg 6%
Warren 3%
Klobuchar 1%
Steyer 1%
Gabbard 1%

Hillary surges to 4th!


Sanders at 66. Wow.
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Postby Kruiven » Sat Feb 22, 2020 10:05 pm

Betting market prediction of brokered convention down 14%, under 50% again.
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Postby Neu California » Sat Feb 22, 2020 10:06 pm

I'm just wondering why Gabbard stays in the race. It's obvious she's not going anywhere
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Postby Corrian » Sat Feb 22, 2020 10:09 pm

Zurkerx wrote:So, only 11% is reported in but as it stands, Sanders is in first, followed by Biden and Buttigieg. Warren is having another disappointing night. Has she spoken yet?

Also a sad night for your predictions if this holds. Sanders is way overperforming your prediction.
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Postby Nobel Hobos 2 » Sat Feb 22, 2020 10:14 pm

41% reporting, this is about where I (not an expert, no inside information) like to call a race.

Bernie Sanders 47.5%
Joseph R. Biden Jr. 21.2%
Pete Buttigieg 14.5%
Elizabeth Warren 9.4%
Amy Klobuchar 3.7%

Gee I dunno. Tough call.
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Postby Shofercia » Sat Feb 22, 2020 10:15 pm

Neu California wrote:I'm just wondering why Gabbard stays in the race. It's obvious she's not going anywhere


A lot of candidates aren't dropping out until Super Tuesday. Gabbard seems to be one of them - besides, she's not running for Congress, so what does she have to lose?
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Postby Corrian » Sat Feb 22, 2020 10:21 pm

County by county is interesting. Bernie doesn't have over 47% in like..any county, except one, yet he's at 47%. But if you look closely its because Biden doesn't even come in the top 4 in Washoe County (Where Reno is) or Carson City. Hell in Carson City Klobuchar is 2nd despite being way low everywhere else.

Edit: Wait Buttigieg leads in Douglas county. Bernie leads everywhere else so far.

Edit 2: Wait no Warren leads in one county. Huh.
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Postby Sougra » Sat Feb 22, 2020 10:22 pm

According to the polls, which are now 43% in, Pete now is above 15%, meaning that if it stays this way, he'll likely get at least one delegate added to his total to my knowledge.
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Postby Corrian » Sat Feb 22, 2020 10:22 pm

Actually there's at least 3 counties Buttigieg leads in. Biden leads in none despite being 2nd.
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Postby Corrian » Sat Feb 22, 2020 10:37 pm

I wish the margin where Bernie apparently had 60% of the vote retained in Reno. God that would probably keep him at 50% of the vote.

Also I love how Biden is acting like his 2nd place finish is a good thing. He's currently 26% behind in a state he was just polling in first. That margin gap is actually probably worse than his 4th and 5th place finishes.
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Postby Outer Sparta » Sat Feb 22, 2020 11:15 pm

Clark County is the big one, home to most of Nevada's population and is the most diverse county in Nevada. Bernie leads in the high 40s, while Biden is around 23%. Bernie's support has grown to be more diverse and the narrative of him only having white support isn't going to stand up, especially if he does amazing in the Super Tuesday states.
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Postby Corrian » Sat Feb 22, 2020 11:38 pm

Outer Sparta wrote:Clark County is the big one, home to most of Nevada's population and is the most diverse county in Nevada. Bernie leads in the high 40s, while Biden is around 23%. Bernie's support has grown to be more diverse and the narrative of him only having white support isn't going to stand up, especially if he does amazing in the Super Tuesday states.

He's at 41.5%. That's not high 40's?
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Postby Blargoblarg » Sun Feb 23, 2020 12:08 am

I was expecting Bernie to win Nevada, but not by this much. Wow that's impressive. Results at 49.88% of precincts reporting:
Bernie Sanders 46.6%
Joe Biden 19.2%
Pete Buttigieg 15.4%
Elizabeth Warren 10.3%
Amy Klobuchar 4.5%
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Postby Imperial Joseon » Sun Feb 23, 2020 12:09 am

Blargoblarg wrote:I was expecting Bernie to win Nevada, but not by this much. Wow that's impressive. Results at 49.88% of precincts reporting:
Bernie Sanders 46.6%
Joe Biden 19.2%
Pete Buttigieg 15.4%
Elizabeth Warren 10.3%
Amy Klobuchar 4.5%
Tom Steyer 3.8%


Biden's votes went up quite significantly.
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Postby Greater Miami Shores » Sun Feb 23, 2020 12:12 am

Blargoblarg wrote:I was expecting Bernie to win Nevada, but not by this much. Wow that's impressive. Results at 49.88% of precincts reporting:
Bernie Sanders 46.6%
Joe Biden 19.2%
Pete Buttigieg 15.4%
Elizabeth Warren 10.3%
Amy Klobuchar 4.5%
Tom Steyer 3.8%

Since Bernie and Warren have similar views, If you add Bernie's 46.60 % and Warren's 10.30 %, that is 56.90 % with similar views.
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Postby Corrian » Sun Feb 23, 2020 12:18 am

Imperial Joseon wrote:
Blargoblarg wrote:I was expecting Bernie to win Nevada, but not by this much. Wow that's impressive. Results at 49.88% of precincts reporting:
Bernie Sanders 46.6%
Joe Biden 19.2%
Pete Buttigieg 15.4%
Elizabeth Warren 10.3%
Amy Klobuchar 4.5%
Tom Steyer 3.8%


Biden's votes went up quite significantly.

His went up, then dropped, and Buttigieg went up.
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Postby Sougra » Sun Feb 23, 2020 12:21 am

Corrian wrote:
Imperial Joseon wrote:
Biden's votes went up quite significantly.

His went up, then dropped, and Buttigieg went up.

Yep. As for Buttigieg, if you're supporting Sanders, you want him to end up below 15% so he doesn't get delegates (at least, that's how I understand the rules working out).
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Postby Imperial Joseon » Sun Feb 23, 2020 12:22 am

Corrian wrote:
Imperial Joseon wrote:
Biden's votes went up quite significantly.

His went up, then dropped, and Buttigieg went up.


Who do you prefer more: Biden or Buttigieg?
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Imperial Joseon wrote:
Corrian wrote:His went up, then dropped, and Buttigieg went up.


Who do you prefer more: Biden or Buttigieg?

Probably Buttigieg, even though he's disappointing.
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