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Who do you think will win South Carolina?

Sanders
27
59%
Warren
0
No votes
Biden
18
39%
Buttigieg
0
No votes
Klobuchar
1
2%
Steyer
0
No votes
 
Total votes : 46

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Postby Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana » Sat Feb 22, 2020 6:23 pm

Well Trump vs. Sanders is basically confirmed, may the best 1%er Russian-assisted old white guy win
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Postby Kruiven » Sat Feb 22, 2020 6:24 pm

Bernie speaking from San Antonio. Only candidate we've yet to hear from is Warren.
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Postby Zurkerx » Sat Feb 22, 2020 6:24 pm

Nobel Hobos 2 wrote:Hey, do they count the early votes first, last, or at the same time as precinct votes?

If we're looking at just one type, then results are going to change.


I would think they count everything at the same time, that would make the most sense.
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Postby Thermodolia » Sat Feb 22, 2020 6:24 pm

Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana wrote:Well Trump vs. Sanders is basically confirmed, may the best 1%er Russian-assisted old white guy win

I lol’d
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Postby Kruiven » Sat Feb 22, 2020 6:25 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana wrote:General election campaigning is going to be very different for Bernie than primaries. Mainly because the opposition is going to go full force with the s-word

The problem is that the Republicans have spent 30 years claiming that UHC and other social programs are socialist. I don’t think it’s going to matter as much as people think

As part of my crusade against socialism, I will now give up my social security and Medicaid.
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Postby The Emerald Legion » Sat Feb 22, 2020 6:27 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana wrote:General election campaigning is going to be very different for Bernie than primaries. Mainly because the opposition is going to go full force with the s-word

The problem is that the Republicans have spent 30 years claiming that UHC and other social programs are socialist. I don’t think it’s going to matter as much as people think


Polls say otherwise.

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Postby United States of Devonta » Sat Feb 22, 2020 6:27 pm

This really was crazy. I haven't felt this good sense Obama beat Romney in 2012.
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Postby Thermodolia » Sat Feb 22, 2020 6:29 pm

The Emerald Legion wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:The problem is that the Republicans have spent 30 years claiming that UHC and other social programs are socialist. I don’t think it’s going to matter as much as people think


Polls say otherwise.

https://www.people-press.org/2019/10/07 ... apitalism/

The fact that 42% view socialism in a positive light pretty much means that it’s not going to matter as much as you might think.

Besides I thought polls where unreliable and bad and that we shouldn’t trust them
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Postby Nobel Hobos 2 » Sat Feb 22, 2020 6:32 pm

Zurkerx wrote:
Nobel Hobos 2 wrote:Hey, do they count the early votes first, last, or at the same time as precinct votes?

If we're looking at just one type, then results are going to change.


I would think they count everything at the same time, that would make the most sense.


Depends on whether the early votes have all been collected in one place. If so, there's an argument for leaving them until all the precincts have reported and their staff can go home.

In my opinion, election counters should put precision above efficiency, but efficiency above producing a media-friendly early count. The early count matters a lot to media (and political vultures like ourselves) who want to guess the result as early as possible. But that matters less than getting it right, and imo it also matters less than letting the precinct captains finish and go home.
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Postby United States of Devonta » Sat Feb 22, 2020 6:32 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
The Emerald Legion wrote:
Polls say otherwise.

https://www.people-press.org/2019/10/07 ... apitalism/

The fact that 42% view socialism in a positive light pretty much means that it’s not going to matter as much as you might think.

Besides I thought polls where unreliable and bad and that we shouldn’t trust them


In many of these polls, Bernie still wins.
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Postby Duhon » Sat Feb 22, 2020 6:33 pm

guess warren piledriving bloomberg early on didn't matter in the end

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Postby Kruiven » Sat Feb 22, 2020 6:35 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
The Emerald Legion wrote:
Polls say otherwise.

https://www.people-press.org/2019/10/07 ... apitalism/

The fact that 42% view socialism in a positive light pretty much means that it’s not going to matter as much as you might think.

Besides I thought polls where unreliable and bad and that we shouldn’t trust them

Polls are also weirdly contradictory but it's also because that's how voters are. For example in Nevada today a majority of Hispanic voters said they're moderate or conservative yet 3/4 support Medicare for all and most voted for Sanders. A lot of Biden voters have Sanders as their second choice. The list goes on and on with examples of voter moves that aren't in line with how many would think.
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Postby The Emerald Legion » Sat Feb 22, 2020 6:37 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
The Emerald Legion wrote:
Polls say otherwise.

https://www.people-press.org/2019/10/07 ... apitalism/

The fact that 42% view socialism in a positive light pretty much means that it’s not going to matter as much as you might think.

Besides I thought polls where unreliable and bad and that we shouldn’t trust them


Of course they are. And if I were trying to convince me, I wouldn't use them. I however am trying to convince you lot, with your noted biases towards questionable numbers arranged in neat infographics.
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Postby Nobel Hobos 2 » Sat Feb 22, 2020 6:37 pm

United States of Devonta wrote:This really was crazy. I haven't felt this good sense Obama beat Romney in 2012.


Winning feels good but it's really a tiny thing. All three of the contests so far dispose 2.5% of the total delegates.

You may mention Momentum now tho.
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Postby Shrillland » Sat Feb 22, 2020 6:37 pm

Duhon wrote:guess warren piledriving bloomberg early on didn't matter in the end


It wasn't likely to for Nevada since so many of the votes had already been cast. We've yet to actually see the effects of it and probably will see something in South Carolina next week.
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Postby Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana » Sat Feb 22, 2020 6:39 pm

United States of Devonta wrote:This really was crazy. I haven't felt this good sense Obama beat Romney in 2012.

We basically have Putin picking the next president now
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Postby Teachian » Sat Feb 22, 2020 6:41 pm

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Kruiven wrote:NBC joins Fox in calling it for Sanders with 4% reporting.

Well that’s it then I’m calling the nomination for Sanders. Trump will win re-election and the house will flip


You can keep repeating the same line and saying "I'll say I told you so when he loses", but until you actually discuss with people like an adult about why (aka not just saying you don't like him and never responding to peoples' counterpoints) I don't see a reason for most of us to care.
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Postby Nobel Hobos 2 » Sat Feb 22, 2020 6:41 pm

Duhon wrote:guess warren piledriving bloomberg early on didn't matter in the end


I guess not. 10% is pretty ordinary for her.
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Postby South Ccanda » Sat Feb 22, 2020 6:43 pm

Nobel Hobos 2 wrote:
Duhon wrote:guess warren piledriving bloomberg early on didn't matter in the end


I guess not. 10% is pretty ordinary for her.

I mean, to be fair, how many people do you think actually watched the debate?
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Postby Aureumterra » Sat Feb 22, 2020 6:43 pm

Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana wrote:
United States of Devonta wrote:This really was crazy. I haven't felt this good sense Obama beat Romney in 2012.

We basically have Putin picking the next president now

And the conspiracies start again
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Postby Shrillland » Sat Feb 22, 2020 6:44 pm

South Ccanda wrote:
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I guess not. 10% is pretty ordinary for her.

I mean, to be fair, how many people do you think actually watched the debate?


18 million, apparently, it was supposedly the most-watched debate so far.
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Postby Nobel Hobos 2 » Sat Feb 22, 2020 6:45 pm

South Ccanda wrote:
Nobel Hobos 2 wrote:
I guess not. 10% is pretty ordinary for her.

I mean, to be fair, how many people do you think actually watched the debate?


No idea, but it's not just watching the whole thing. Many people would have seen clips. Which heavily feature attacks on Bloo'g.

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South Ccanda wrote:I mean, to be fair, how many people do you think actually watched the debate?


18 million, apparently, it was supposedly the most-watched debate so far.


About half as many as will vote in all the Dem Primaries.
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Postby Kruiven » Sat Feb 22, 2020 6:46 pm

Bernie has finished speaking. Still no word from Warren. In Pete's speech he called it a two person race, he called it a two person race between him and Warren months earlier lmfao. Also I'm pretty sure Bloomberg, Biden, Warren, Klobuchar, and Steyer would disagree with that statement from him.
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Postby United States of Devonta » Sat Feb 22, 2020 6:47 pm

Will Klob drop out?
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Postby Kruiven » Sat Feb 22, 2020 6:48 pm

United States of Devonta wrote:Will Klob drop out?

At her speech from Minneapolis she seemed excited for Super Tuesday.
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