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Who do you think will win South Carolina?

Sanders
27
59%
Warren
0
No votes
Biden
18
39%
Buttigieg
0
No votes
Klobuchar
1
2%
Steyer
0
No votes
 
Total votes : 46

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Postby New haven america » Sat Feb 22, 2020 4:37 pm

Rojava Free State wrote:
New haven america wrote:Italy, Germany, Ireland, and Japan does too.


Did I ever say Japan wasnt racist? I'm pretty sure Japan is literally the most racist country in mankind's entire history. They're literally an ethnostate and have a history of being the most racist not toward white folks or latinos, but toward other asians. I wouldn't use Japan as an example of how to be a progressive nation

I like how you single out 1/4 countries.
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Postby Thermodolia » Sat Feb 22, 2020 4:38 pm

Rojava Free State wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Every place is going to have discrimination. It’s part of human nature. Besides this is only for the Right of Return which fast tracks citizenship. Everyone else has to wait five years


So they have different citizenship standards for Jews and non jews?

Once again, in what universe is Israel not a racist nation?

Only for entry. Being Jewish just fast tracks the process it doesn’t make you an automatic citizen. It’s much like how American Nationals aren’t citizens but don’t have to go through the permanent residence stage.

That’s all that the Right of Return does, fast track the citizenship.

Anyway this is a Threadjack and if you want to continue it further make a thread
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Postby Shrillland » Sat Feb 22, 2020 4:39 pm

Cisairse wrote:
Kruiven wrote:Nevada Democratic party has officially released their first results, from 28 precincts. Out of 2,100.


Wait, what have we been watching the rest of the time?


We've been watching the results, I'm sure, it's just the party's releasing the official totals, just like when a state releases official counts several days after the vote.
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Postby Thermodolia » Sat Feb 22, 2020 4:39 pm

Rojava Free State wrote:
New haven america wrote:Italy, Germany, Ireland, and Japan does too.


Did I ever say Japan wasnt racist? I'm pretty sure Japan is literally the most racist country in mankind's entire history. They're literally an ethnostate and have a history of being the most racist not toward white folks or latinos, but toward other asians. I wouldn't use Japan as an example of how to be a progressive nation

Progressivism is silly.

Now that’s out of the way let’s talk about the election!
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Postby Aureumterra » Sat Feb 22, 2020 4:40 pm

Vetalia wrote:
Diopolis wrote:"not being there for 2,000 years" is generally recognized as forfeiture.


At this point Italy has a stronger claim to the entirety of Western Europe, North Africa and the Levant than Israel does to its territory...

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Postby Diopolis » Sat Feb 22, 2020 4:40 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:
Did I ever say Japan wasnt racist? I'm pretty sure Japan is literally the most racist country in mankind's entire history. They're literally an ethnostate and have a history of being the most racist not toward white folks or latinos, but toward other asians. I wouldn't use Japan as an example of how to be a progressive nation

Progressivism is silly.

Now that’s out of the way let’s talk about the election!

Any interesting third parties this time around?
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Postby Thermodolia » Sat Feb 22, 2020 4:41 pm

Pasong Tirad wrote:Chris Matthews still having a meltdown over the prospect of higher taxes, it seems.

Good. Let him whine. I hope Chuck Todd shits his pants when sanders wins in November
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Postby Aureumterra » Sat Feb 22, 2020 4:41 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:
Did I ever say Japan wasnt racist? I'm pretty sure Japan is literally the most racist country in mankind's entire history. They're literally an ethnostate and have a history of being the most racist not toward white folks or latinos, but toward other asians. I wouldn't use Japan as an example of how to be a progressive nation

Progressivism is silly.

Now that’s out of the way let’s talk about the election!

Once again bring up the question, how would things go differently with only one major moderate rather than 4 or 5 we have right now?
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Postby Bear Stearns » Sat Feb 22, 2020 4:41 pm

New haven america wrote:
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1. We funded Israel's and theirs seems to work pretty well.



2. Why? Is Israel open to every language too?



3. Wasn't Israel founded on Palestinian land where a bunch of Arabs live? Seems like a bit of a double standard here.



4. We can make prospective immigrants do ancestry tests, just like Israel does!



5. "We accept all ethnic groups as long as you part of our ethnic group"

6. So you're literally admitting they don't accept all groups then. 7. You are saying non-Jews can only be citizens if they prove they have the right blood. Imagine if the US had a law like but it was only for white people...hmm...

1. Good luck building a border wall in the middle of an international river and 4/5 lakes the size of a small sea


Logistically it'd be much more difficult for the US, but it is morally equivalent.

New haven america wrote:2. Hebrew, Arabic, and other languages like German, Polish, Russian, etc... Yes.


Israel actually has laws that stipulate what its official languages are. The US could easily do the same with the stroke of a pen. Most countries have these laws. You act like a cosmic force is preventing America from adopting an official language. If Israel can do it, then so can America.

New haven america wrote:3. No, they were there first, then got kicked out by the Romans who let Palestinians settle the place.


If you have to back 2,000 to justify your land claim, then that really isn't a strong claim. By that logic both the Jews and Arabs are occupiers of rightful Canaanite land.

New haven america wrote:So both groups have claim to the area (Which is why a Dual-Party State has been proposed multiple times).


Do you know why a single state solution wouldn't work? Because Arabs would outnumber Jews in short order, and if Arabs outnumber Jews, then the place ceases to be the Jewish homeland.
New haven america wrote:4. Can't, unless you're Native American there's no way to do a reliable ancestry test


White Americans have a stronger claim to North America than Israelis do to Israel. We've been here longer than they've been there. Regardless, it seems hypocritical to apply two different standards here.

And ancestry tests are feasible. People willingly do them for fun all the time.

New haven america wrote:5. They also accept converts


good for them?

New haven america wrote:6. They're accepting of all Jews regardless of race


No they aren't. Ethiopian Jews face tons of racism and many Israelis don't even consider them to be real Jews

New haven america wrote:7. No, non-Jews without ancestry can immigrate as well, they've always have been able to


Under a different set of laws. Isn't having different laws for different ethnic groups...ethnonationalist? :^)

New haven america wrote:And with that final point, your off topic argument has been proven to be stupid as fuck.


It sounds like you're defending ethnonationalism but only when certain groups do it.
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Postby Thermodolia » Sat Feb 22, 2020 4:42 pm

Diopolis wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Progressivism is silly.

Now that’s out of the way let’s talk about the election!

Any interesting third parties this time around?

The libertarians have Vermin Supreme running for President. I really hope he gets the nomination. I’d love to vote for him
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Postby Cisairse » Sat Feb 22, 2020 4:42 pm

Kruiven wrote:
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Wait, what have we been watching the rest of the time?

Reporters reporting the results they've seen, not results from the state party.


Where were CCD counts coming from, then?
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Postby New haven america » Sat Feb 22, 2020 4:43 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Diopolis wrote:Any interesting third parties this time around?

The libertarians have Vermin Supreme running for President. I really hope he gets the nomination. I’d love to vote for him

>Implying the Libertarians are interesting
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Postby Vetalia » Sat Feb 22, 2020 4:43 pm

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At this point Italy has a stronger claim to the entirety of Western Europe, North Africa and the Levant than Israel does to its territory...

This post was made by the Mussolini gang


Hey, I'm just saying that they have a Causus Belli. Not guaranteeing they'll get their cores back.
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Postby Thermodolia » Sat Feb 22, 2020 4:44 pm

Aureumterra wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Progressivism is silly.

Now that’s out of the way let’s talk about the election!

Once again bring up the question, how would things go differently with only one major moderate rather than 4 or 5 we have right now?

I don’t know. And there’s really only four moderates as Warren is basically Sanders Lite
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Postby Thermodolia » Sat Feb 22, 2020 4:44 pm

New haven america wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:The libertarians have Vermin Supreme running for President. I really hope he gets the nomination. I’d love to vote for him

>Implying the Libertarians are interesting

Only because of Supreme. He’s a Dictator you can Trust!
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Postby Kruiven » Sat Feb 22, 2020 4:45 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Aureumterra wrote:Once again bring up the question, how would things go differently with only one major moderate rather than 4 or 5 we have right now?

I don’t know. And there’s really only four moderates as Warren is basically Sanders Lite

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Postby Shrillland » Sat Feb 22, 2020 4:45 pm

Cisairse wrote:
Kruiven wrote:Reporters reporting the results they've seen, not results from the state party.


Where were CCD counts coming from, then?


From what the state has said about how the votes go. Washoe and Clark Counties and I think Carson City send 1 CCD per every 50 votes a candidate gets while the less populated counties send 1 per every 5 votes.
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Postby Thermodolia » Sat Feb 22, 2020 4:45 pm

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The thread for israel is that way
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Postby Pasong Tirad » Sat Feb 22, 2020 4:46 pm

Kruiven wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:I don’t know. And there’s really only four moderates as Warren is basically Sanders Lite

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Five and a half moderates, then.

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Postby Thermodolia » Sat Feb 22, 2020 4:47 pm

Kruiven wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:I don’t know. And there’s really only four moderates as Warren is basically Sanders Lite

Steyer and Gabbard being erased!

Ok fine. Steyer is Bloomberg, without all the racism, sexism, and he actually earned his money from the ground up. Gabbard is Sanders but female
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Postby Diopolis » Sat Feb 22, 2020 4:50 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Diopolis wrote:Any interesting third parties this time around?

The libertarians have Vermin Supreme running for President. I really hope he gets the nomination. I’d love to vote for him

I also just looked up McAfee's campaign site.
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Our two party system created a voting process which is an illusion, and a government that fluctuates between two extremes - each extreme annulling any progress made by the opposition in the prior administration. It is a government that has gone insane. While we carry the burden of this government we are not free.

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Kruiven wrote:Dang it's absolutely pouring in Las Vegas at the moment.

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Kruiven wrote:Dang it's absolutely pouring in Las Vegas at the moment.


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Kruiven wrote:Dang it's absolutely pouring in Las Vegas at the moment.


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