2020 US General Election Thread IV: The Battle Begins

[Sougra]

I like how the whole thread just came together in a collective what the fuck

Strange to see unity nowadays. For some NSers, I believe it might give hope for the future.

[Corrian]

Ugh, why are people actually stupid enough to support Bloomberg this much?

[Arlenton]

I wouldn't equate rural New England, particularly Vermont, to the rural Midwest. If rural Vermont voted like rural areas in the Midwest, Trump would have easily won it by double digits.

Sure. It still seems more than silly to me to say "You need people other than just in cities" as a criticism of a politician from a mostly rural state.

You're completely right about that.

And I see no evidence that Sanders would perform worse in rural areas than someone like Bloomberg.

[San Lumen]

Yeah that's not at all the reason. It's because Corbyn was saddled with accusations of anti-Semitism and was personally very unpopular.

I don't see how anti-semitism is necessarily a negative if it isn't entirely without merit. The anti-semites do seem to bring up at least some valid points about how the Jewish community is in relation to non-Jews. The control of the media, higher education, and finances, among other things- is a bit suspect and plenty of people would be interested in that being investigated. But antisemitism is certainly bad if its taken too far, in that semites in general do exist and this should be respected.

I'd say its important to recognize the Jews' right to exist and facilitate their movement to the state of Israel when or if possible. Broadly speaking, its better to support the Israeli government for the purposes of a Jewish homeland if the alternative is to let its Muslim neighbors turn it into just another Islamic country.

Saying the Jews control the media, higher education and finances is classic anti Semitism. Discrimination of any kind is never ok but it seems you never miss an opportunity to post your xenophobic, racist, white supremacist viewpoints.

I bet if someone non white or non Christian was nominated for any position in your area you’d vote against them because they aren’t white or Christian

[Kruiven]

Ugh, why are people actually stupid enough to support Bloomberg this much?

I'm waiting to support him until I see the check from him clears.

[Sougra]

Sure. It still seems more than silly to me to say "You need people other than just in cities" as a criticism of a politician from a mostly rural state.

You're completely right about that.

And I see no evidence that Sanders would perform worse in rural areas than someone like Bloomberg.

Just from what I understand, most rural area voters are left economically and have a disdain for the rich and powerful. That alone, at least, makes Sanders more appealing than Bloomberg there. You can argue the others, but Bloomberg almost definitely loses rural America.

[Kargintina the Third]

I don't see how anti-semitism is necessarily a negative if it isn't entirely without merit. The anti-semites do seem to bring up at least some valid points about how the Jewish community is in relation to non-Jews. The control of the media, higher education, and finances, among other things- is a bit suspect and plenty of people would be interested in that being investigated. But antisemitism is certainly bad if its taken too far, in that semites in general do exist and this should be respected.

I'd say its important to recognize the Jews' right to exist and facilitate their movement to the state of Israel when or if possible. Broadly speaking, its better to support the Israeli government for the purposes of a Jewish homeland if the alternative is to let its Muslim neighbors turn it into just another Islamic country.

Saying the Jews control the media, higher education and finances is classic anti Semitism. Discrimination of any kind is never ok but it seems you never miss an opportunity to post your xenophobic, racist, white supremacist viewpoints.

I bet if someone non white or non Christian was nominated for any position in your area you’d vote against them because they aren’t white or Christian

Oooooohhhh got em

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

I like how the whole thread just came together in a collective what the fuck

That’s the only true reaction that post deserves.

[Cisairse]

I like how the whole thread just came together in a collective what the fuck

Sai failed his vibe check

[Saiwania]

Saying the Jews control the media, higher education and finances is classic anti Semitism.

People wouldn't be saying that if it weren't true at least to some extent. Mike Bloomberg to my knowledge, fits the stereotype- most of which, exist for a reason. I think most of the problems non-Jews have with the Jewish community can be resolved in simply undoing what the Roman empire did to Judea. Its too late to undo what was done, but steps can be taken to enable Israel to be enough of a success to get most Jewish minorities the world over, to naturally migrate to there over time.

[Corrian]

I do believe though that basically everyone is gonna attack Bloomberg in the debate. It may be a blessing to have him in the debate.

[Kargintina the Third]

Saying the Jews control the media, higher education and finances is classic anti Semitism.

People wouldn't be saying that if it weren't true at least to some extent. Mike Bloomberg to my knowledge, fits the stereotype- most of which, exist for a reason. I think most of the problems non-Jews have with the Jewish community can be resolved in simply undoing what the Roman empire did to Judea. Its too late to undo what was done, but steps can be taken to enable Israel to be enough of a success to get most Jewish minorities the world over, to naturally migrate to there over time.

Oh my goodness it’s still going

[Cisairse]

Ugh, why are people actually stupid enough to support Bloomberg this much?

I'm waiting to support him until I see the check from him clears.

Wait, hold on. This might be a winning strategy. Bloomberg has spent what, $700 million so far? That's enough to give every American about $2.

[San Lumen]

Saying the Jews control the media, higher education and finances is classic anti Semitism.

People wouldn't be saying that if it weren't true at least to some extent. Mike Bloomberg to my knowledge, fits the stereotype- most of which, exist for a reason. I think most of the problems non-Jews have with the Jewish community can be resolved in simply undoing what the Roman empire did to Judea. Its too late to undo what was done, but steps can be taken to enable Israel to be enough of a success to get most Jewish minorities the world over, to naturally migrate to there over time.

Your doing it again. None of what you wrote about Jews is true. I have no desire to move to Israel.

You didn’t answer my question. If someone non white or non Christian was nominated for an office in your area would you vote for them?

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

People wouldn't be saying that if it weren't true at least to some extent. Mike Bloomberg to my knowledge, fits the stereotype- most of which, exist for a reason. I think most of the problems non-Jews have with the Jewish community can be resolved in simply undoing what the Roman empire did to Judea. Its too late to undo what was done, but steps can be taken to enable Israel to be enough of a success to get most Jewish minorities the world over, to naturally migrate to there over time.

Oh my goodness it’s still going

That post is like an STD. The gift that keeps on giving!

Now I’m itchy and grossed out.

[San Lumen]

I do believe though that basically everyone is gonna attack Bloomberg in the debate. It may be a blessing to have him in the debate.

And perhaps Mayor Pete or Amy Klobuchar can get momentum out of it

[Kruiven]

I do believe though that basically everyone is gonna attack Bloomberg in the debate. It may be a blessing to have him in the debate.

Bloomberg and Biden have said they're gonna go after Sanders, idk about the others. Bloomberg himself is a walking oppo dump so him going after anybody is pretty funny and Biden I would think should want to go after Bloomberg for stealing his voters but that's not what his campaign has signaled they're going to do.

[Cisairse]

Saying the Jews control the media, higher education and finances is classic anti Semitism.

People wouldn't be saying that if it weren't true at least to some extent. Mike Bloomberg to my knowledge, fits the stereotype- most of which, exist for a reason. I think most of the problems non-Jews have with the Jewish community can be resolved in simply undoing what the Roman empire did to Judea. Its too late to undo what was done, but steps can be taken to enable Israel to be enough of a success to get most Jewish minorities the world over, to naturally migrate to there over time.

dude I want to "undo" your post

[Kargintina the Third]

These posts are the gift that keep giving

[Corrian]

I do believe though that basically everyone is gonna attack Bloomberg in the debate. It may be a blessing to have him in the debate.

Bloomberg and Biden have said they're gonna go after Sanders, idk about the others. Bloomberg himself is a walking oppo dump so him going after anybody is pretty funny and Biden I would think should want to go after Bloomberg for stealing his voters but that's not what his campaign has signaled they're going to do.

Everyone should go after Bloomberg for his racism. It should be unacceptable in today's Democratic party.

I do believe though that basically everyone is gonna attack Bloomberg in the debate. It may be a blessing to have him in the debate.

And perhaps Mayor Pete or Amy Klobuchar can get momentum out of it

Or anyone not Bloomberg.

[Saiwania]

Your doing it again. None of what you wrote about Jews is true. I have no desire to move to Israel. You didn’t answer my question. If someone non white or non Christian was nominated for an office in your area would you vote for them?

If its not true, I just don't understand why so many people seem to believe otherwise, its not just a local or region specific occurence in terms of belief, its global. I like to think that if it isn't really a conspiracy or trend or whatever people prefer to call it, that it wouldn't be a thing. If no one wants to continue this, fine- I'm sorry about any biases I may have.

As to your question, I probably wouldn't- but I can't stop them if a majority votes them in anyways. I'd take it as a sign that people like myself can't be in power anymore where I live. Most things in life from my experience, can only be zero sum. There is always going to be a loser for any winner.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

I do believe though that basically everyone is gonna attack Bloomberg in the debate. It may be a blessing to have him in the debate.

Bloomberg and Biden have said they're gonna go after Sanders, idk about the others. Bloomberg himself is a walking oppo dump so him going after anybody is pretty funny and Biden I would think should want to go after Bloomberg for stealing his voters but that's not what his campaign has signaled they're going to do.

I could be wrong but Biden going after Bernie won’t mean much. Joe’s reputation was tarnished a lot (I’ve seen a few videos of his creepy behavior with reactions from the girls involved and it’s... ew) and I think he missed his window of opportunity to be seen as a good primary contender.

[San Lumen]

Your doing it again. None of what you wrote about Jews is true. I have no desire to move to Israel. You didn’t answer my question. If someone non white or non Christian was nominated for an office in your area would you vote for them?

If its not true, I just don't understand why so many people seem to believe otherwise, its not just a local or region specific occurence in terms of belief, its global. I like to think that if it isn't really a conspiracy or trend or whatever people prefer to call it, that it wouldn't be a thing. If no one wants to continue this, fine- I'm sorry about any biases I may have.

As to your question, I probably wouldn't- but I can't stop them if a majority votes them in anyways. I'd take it as a sign that people like myself can't be in power anymore where I live. Most things in life from my experience, can only be zero sum. There is always going to be a loser for any winner.

Many don’t believe it.

Why wouldn’t you? If a black man or woman or anyone not white or Christian became mayor or was elected to Congress or state legislature in your municipality you’d take it as sign people like you can’t be in power anymore? I don’t follow this logic at all.

[Cisairse]

If its not true, I just don't understand why so many people seem to believe otherwise, its not just a local or region specific occurence in terms of belief, its global. I like to think that if it isn't really a conspiracy or trend or whatever people prefer to call it, that it wouldn't be a thing. If no one wants to continue this, fine- I'm sorry about any biases I may have.

As to your question, I probably wouldn't- but I can't stop them if a majority votes them in anyways. I'd take it as a sign that people like myself can't be in power anymore where I live. Most things in life from my experience, can only be zero sum. There is always going to be a loser for any winner.

Many don’t believe it.

Why wouldn’t you? If a black man or woman or anyone not white or Christian became mayor or was elected to Congress or state legislature in your municipality you’d take it as sign people like you can’t be in power anymore? I don’t follow this logic at all.

A surprising amount of people had this view with President Obama was elected.

[Kruiven]

Bloomberg and Biden have said they're gonna go after Sanders, idk about the others. Bloomberg himself is a walking oppo dump so him going after anybody is pretty funny and Biden I would think should want to go after Bloomberg for stealing his voters but that's not what his campaign has signaled they're going to do.

I could be wrong but Biden going after Bernie won’t mean much. Joe’s reputation was tarnished a lot (I’ve seen a few videos of his creepy behavior with reactions from the girls involved and it’s... ew) and I think he missed his window of opportunity to be seen as a good primary contender.

Yeah, last debate Biden went after Sanders and as we've seen that worked out well for him.
I understand Bloomberg going after Sanders because his campaign is trying to frame this as a two person race already, but Biden going after Sanders seems odd given Bloomberg has the votes he needs.
Same thing with Buttigieg and Klobuchar. Bloomberg and I guess Biden still, has the voters they need.
Warren needs to join Sanders in punching Bloomberg but also knock Buttigieg and try and win back some of the college educated support they both fight over.