2020 US General Election Thread IV: The Battle Begins

[Thermodolia]

Meanwhile over in Russia, Vladimir Putin measures up as the same height as Mike Bloomberg. I wonder if the loud mouth in the White House has anything to say about Uncle Vladdy's stature?

Bloomberg is trying to buy the election, any jokes at his expense are automatically a win

^this. We don’t need billionaires in the White House

[Thermodolia]

Bloomberg is trying to buy the election, any jokes at his expense are automatically a win

No. They're idiotic, shallow garbage.

Get Bloomberg on his racist scapegoating of minorities for the 2008 financial crash, his support for stop-and-frisk, etc... but don't resort to shallow cheap shots. Tell the people who make them to step aside and make way for people who know what REALLY matters.

EDIT: If you really have a problem with his height, you're implying you'd be okay with a taller person trying to "buy the election." If you don't, you're dishonest. That might be good enough for the Internet, but it is NOT good enough for an election to the highest office in the land.

You can do both

[Chan Island]

Biden used to be better. He's just not himself since Beau died.

He had 4 children, he lost one, you think in nearly four years he could have got over it.

Written like somebody's who's never lost a loved one.

The pain of such a loss stays with you forever. And no pain is ever as harsh as that of losing your own children.

[LimaUniformNovemberAlpha]

No. They're idiotic, shallow garbage.

Get Bloomberg on his racist scapegoating of minorities for the 2008 financial crash, his support for stop-and-frisk, etc... but don't resort to shallow cheap shots. Tell the people who make them to step aside and make way for people who know what REALLY matters.

EDIT: If you really have a problem with his height, you're implying you'd be okay with a taller person trying to "buy the election." If you don't, you're dishonest. That might be good enough for the Internet, but it is NOT good enough for an election to the highest office in the land.

You can do both

Bullshit. "Doing both" legitimizes either shallowness or dishonesty. Either is unacceptable.

Stick to VALID criticisms, and ONLY to valid criticisms.

[Jerzylvania]

Meanwhile over in Russia, Vladimir Putin measures up as the same height as Mike Bloomberg. I wonder if the loud mouth in the White House has anything to say about Uncle Vladdy's stature?

Bloomberg is trying to buy the election, any jokes at his expense are automatically a win

Nope. He still needs the votes. Now if your sayin' if Bloomberg gets the nomination you're voting for Trump, then forget you.

[Jerzylvania]

Bloomberg is trying to buy the election, any jokes at his expense are automatically a win

^this. We don’t need billionaires in the White House

Well, we already have one there. One that's totally nuts. If the choice comes down to a fucking sane billionaire or a fucking billionaire that's totally nuts, sorry... but I'm choosing the fucking sane billionaire.

[LimaUniformNovemberAlpha]

^this. We don’t need billionaires in the White House

Well, we already have one there. One that's totally nuts. If the choice comes down to a fucking sane billionaire or a fucking billionaire that's totally nuts, sorry... but I'm choosing the fucking sane billionaire.

I think the idea is that they're trying to prevent it from coming down to that choice in the first place by stopping Bloomberg during the primaries.

That said, resorting to shallow cheap shots does not justify it. Better to lose with honour than win with shame.

[Cisairse]

Meanwhile over in Russia, Vladimir Putin measures up as the same height as Mike Bloomberg. I wonder if the loud mouth in the White House has anything to say about Uncle Vladdy's stature?

Bloomberg is trying to buy the election, any jokes at his expense are automatically a win

So is Putin

[Diopolis]

Bloomberg is trying to buy the election, any jokes at his expense are automatically a win

So is Putin

I too love a good conspiracy theory once in a while. You want to come to my next 1:00 am JFK assassination discussion group?

[Gormwood]

I got one welcome our new crazy haired overlord

Unfortunately in recent weeks somebody's introduced Sanders to a hair dressers. He has short hair now.

RIP, the crazy hair. You will be fondly remembered.

At least it's not a combover like with Trump.

Trump's Remaining Hair (with apologies to the late Bill Paxton): "That's it, man. Comb over, man. Comb over! What the fuck are we gonna do now? What are we gonna do?"

[Washington Resistance Army]

^this. We don’t need billionaires in the White House

Well, we already have one there. One that's totally nuts. If the choice comes down to a fucking sane billionaire or a fucking billionaire that's totally nuts, sorry... but I'm choosing the fucking sane billionaire.

Bad choice. At least the nuts billionaire can't do things right.

[Cisairse]

So is Putin

I too love a good conspiracy theory once in a while. You want to come to my next 1:00 am JFK assassination discussion group?

I hate to break it to you, but there's a lot of on-the-box evidence that JFK was assassinated. You don't need to spin up a conspiracy theory to believe that.

[Zurkerx]

New Poll in Nevada shows Sanders leading. Finally, we have a poll from the State. The breakdown:

Sanders 25%
Biden 18%
Warren 13%
Steyer 11%
Buttigieg 10%
Klobuchar 10%
Undecided 8%

5% went to Yang. I do believe Sanders will win the State though it's tough to say: we don't have many polls from the State so it'll be difficult to figure out. This debate will also be important. The thing is, only five have qualified: Sanders, Buttigieg, Klobuchar, Biden, and Warren. Steyer still needs four polls (three if this one counts) while Bloomberg only needs one. I think we're only going to see 5-6, with Steyer not making it. That should hurt his standing in the State.

[Aureumterra]

So is Putin

I too love a good conspiracy theory once in a while. You want to come to my next 1:00 am JFK assassination discussion group?

It was Israel, Gaddafi said so!

[Jerzylvania]

Well, we already have one there. One that's totally nuts. If the choice comes down to a fucking sane billionaire or a fucking billionaire that's totally nuts, sorry... but I'm choosing the fucking sane billionaire.

I think the idea is that they're trying to prevent it from coming down to that choice in the first place by stopping Bloomberg during the primaries.

That said, resorting to shallow cheap shots does not justify it. Better to lose with honour than win with shame.

I'm an independent. Is Bloomberg the person I dream about being POTUS. Hell no. Has that person I dream of ever been elected. Nope. And let me tell you... I been voting since the 1970s.

Ha. Another dreamer. As you get older maybe take a few years off from your fantasies and see clearly the realities of elections in America. It's messy. It's ugly. It's full of cheap shots. It's largely choosing the lesser of two evils. It's gotten worse as I have aged and isn't changing but for the worse. Losing isn't an option in my plans for 2020. As for honor... Trump has none and btw, you spell honor like a Brit.

[Cannot think of a name]

New Poll in Nevada shows Sanders leading. Finally, we have a poll from the State. The breakdown:

Sanders 25%
Biden 18%
Warren 13%
Steyer 11%
Buttigieg 10%
Klobuchar 10%
Undecided 8%

5% went to Yang. I do believe Sanders will win the State though it's tough to say: we don't have many polls from the State so it'll be difficult to figure out. This debate will also be important. The thing is, only five have qualified: Sanders, Buttigieg, Klobuchar, Biden, and Warren. Steyer still needs four polls (three if this one counts) while Bloomberg only needs one. I think we're only going to see 5-6, with Steyer not making it. That should hurt his standing in the State.

Conducted in the last four days and no Butti-bump up to front runner for Buttigieg. Interesting.

[Uiiop]

https://twitter.com/Politics_Polls/stat ... 21121?s=20
Head to head polls looking quite good for Bernie.

[Cisairse]

https://twitter.com/Politics_Polls/status/1228390458105221121?s=20
Head to head polls looking quite good for Bernie.

This is basically just a re-mapping of the choice polls, no?

[Jerzylvania]

New Poll in Nevada shows Sanders leading. Finally, we have a poll from the State. The breakdown:

Sanders 25%
Biden 18%
Warren 13%
Steyer 11%
Buttigieg 10%
Klobuchar 10%
Undecided 8%

5% went to Yang. I do believe Sanders will win the State though it's tough to say: we don't have many polls from the State so it'll be difficult to figure out. This debate will also be important. The thing is, only five have qualified: Sanders, Buttigieg, Klobuchar, Biden, and Warren. Steyer still needs four polls (three if this one counts) while Bloomberg only needs one. I think we're only going to see 5-6, with Steyer not making it. That should hurt his standing in the State.

I agree. I think Sanders has got this one with a paltry 25%. He really needs to separate from the field though. I hope the Yangsters will understand he's withdrawn and choose to vote for another candidate.

[Zurkerx]

New Poll in Nevada shows Sanders leading. Finally, we have a poll from the State. The breakdown:

Sanders 25%
Biden 18%
Warren 13%
Steyer 11%
Buttigieg 10%
Klobuchar 10%
Undecided 8%

5% went to Yang. I do believe Sanders will win the State though it's tough to say: we don't have many polls from the State so it'll be difficult to figure out. This debate will also be important. The thing is, only five have qualified: Sanders, Buttigieg, Klobuchar, Biden, and Warren. Steyer still needs four polls (three if this one counts) while Bloomberg only needs one. I think we're only going to see 5-6, with Steyer not making it. That should hurt his standing in the State.

Conducted in the last four days and no Butti-bump up to front runner for Buttigieg. Interesting.

Ohh, I see what you did there

In all honesty, Buttigieg doesn't have much of a ground game there. It wasn't until recently he and Klobuchar poured money into the State after their victories. It's an ominous sign for him so everyone, especially Biden, are going to need a great night come the debates.

[LimaUniformNovemberAlpha]

I think the idea is that they're trying to prevent it from coming down to that choice in the first place by stopping Bloomberg during the primaries.

That said, resorting to shallow cheap shots does not justify it. Better to lose with honour than win with shame.

I'm an independent. Is Bloomberg the person I dream about being POTUS. Hell no. Has that person I dream of ever been elected. Nope. And let me tell you... I been voting since the 1970s.

Ha. Another dreamer. As you get older maybe take a few years off from your fantasies and see clearly the realities of elections in America. It's messy. It's ugly. It's full of cheap shots. It's largely choosing the lesser of two evils. It's gotten worse as I have aged and isn't changing but for the worse. Losing isn't an option in my plans for 2020. As for honor... Trump has none and btw, you spell honor like a Brit.

Well, if we're speaking English, we should spell like the country that invented it.

I'm Canadian, by the way.

Look, the issue isn't just how "ugly" it is. We should be brutally honest about a candidate's ACTUAL flaws. But drawing from the well of shallowness neglects the "honest" part.

[LRON]

I'm in a weird place in that Trump is definitely somewhat of a moron, a cunning moron, but a moron nonetheless. But he's also ruthless and doing a good job at clearing out the wishy washy bollocks in the US State Department. I can appreciate the candor and honesty with his foreign policy even if mistakes have been made in places. Sanders is too idealistic. Biden is clearly starting to suffer from dementia. Buttigieg is...I don't know, something doesn't sit well with me there with that one. Bloomberg is, mhm hm hm, well I'll let his totalitarian record of New York speak for itself. If you want a civil war, Bloomberg is probably the way to go - he will piss off the radical left and the entirety of the American right. I am afraid that means Trump is the best bet for now - I think the nearly inevitable future American civil war should be placed on hold for another ten to twenty years.

[Necroghastia]

I'm in a weird place in that Trump is definitely somewhat of a moron, a cunning moron, but a moron nonetheless. But he's also ruthless and doing a good job at clearing out the wishy washy bollocks in the US State Department. I can appreciate the candor and honesty with his foreign policy even if mistakes have been made in places. Sanders is too idealistic. Biden is clearly starting to suffer from dementia. Buttigieg is...I don't know, something doesn't sit well with me there with that one. Bloomberg is, mhm hm hm, well I'll let his totalitarian record of New York speak for itself. If you want a civil war, Bloomberg is probably the way to go - he will piss off the radical left and the entirety of the American right. I am afraid that means Trump is the best bet for now - I think the nearly inevitable future American civil war should be placed on hold for another ten to twenty years.

What makes Sanders too idealistic?

[Cisairse]

I'm in a weird place in that Trump is definitely somewhat of a moron, a cunning moron, but a moron nonetheless. But he's also ruthless and doing a good job at clearing out the wishy washy bollocks in the US State Department. I can appreciate the candor and honesty with his foreign policy even if mistakes have been made in places. Sanders is too idealistic. Biden is clearly starting to suffer from dementia. Buttigieg is...I don't know, something doesn't sit well with me there with that one. Bloomberg is, mhm hm hm, well I'll let his totalitarian record of New York speak for itself. If you want a civil war, Bloomberg is probably the way to go - he will piss off the radical left and the entirety of the American right. I am afraid that means Trump is the best bet for now - I think the nearly inevitable future American civil war should be placed on hold for another ten to twenty years.

Biden is not "suffering from dementia."

Also, how is abusing the trust of the people of the United States to distort the powers of your office for your own personal gain "honesty with foreign policy"?

[LRON]

I'm in a weird place in that Trump is definitely somewhat of a moron, a cunning moron, but a moron nonetheless. But he's also ruthless and doing a good job at clearing out the wishy washy bollocks in the US State Department. I can appreciate the candor and honesty with his foreign policy even if mistakes have been made in places. Sanders is too idealistic. Biden is clearly starting to suffer from dementia. Buttigieg is...I don't know, something doesn't sit well with me there with that one. Bloomberg is, mhm hm hm, well I'll let his totalitarian record of New York speak for itself. If you want a civil war, Bloomberg is probably the way to go - he will piss off the radical left and the entirety of the American right. I am afraid that means Trump is the best bet for now - I think the nearly inevitable future American civil war should be placed on hold for another ten to twenty years.

What makes Sanders too idealistic?

His views on the world and on what can be managed. A system like that which exists in the US? He will be the American Harold Wilson but worse. They'll try to strangle him more than they've tried to strangle Trump. Not to mention his views on the world such as human rights laws and all of that mumbo jumbo. Most of the world really only finds them useful when to use as a truncheon against the West or whomever they are in a dispute with. Everybody looks the other way when it is convenient and always will. That is the harsh truth of the matter.

I'm in a weird place in that Trump is definitely somewhat of a moron, a cunning moron, but a moron nonetheless. But he's also ruthless and doing a good job at clearing out the wishy washy bollocks in the US State Department. I can appreciate the candor and honesty with his foreign policy even if mistakes have been made in places. Sanders is too idealistic. Biden is clearly starting to suffer from dementia. Buttigieg is...I don't know, something doesn't sit well with me there with that one. Bloomberg is, mhm hm hm, well I'll let his totalitarian record of New York speak for itself. If you want a civil war, Bloomberg is probably the way to go - he will piss off the radical left and the entirety of the American right. I am afraid that means Trump is the best bet for now - I think the nearly inevitable future American civil war should be placed on hold for another ten to twenty years.

Biden is not "suffering from dementia."

Also, how is abusing the trust of the people of the United States to distort the powers of your office for your own personal gain "honesty with foreign policy"?

Oh he definitely is in the early stages of dementia. He reminds of how my father was starting to become when he started going. As for the other parts it is more his honesty in what he wants and how he'll get it. Unafraid to blatantly use assassinations, coercion, etc etc. It is about time America embraced being an empire - begone with this wishy washy bunk!