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Who do you think will win South Carolina?

Sanders
27
59%
Warren
0
No votes
Biden
18
39%
Buttigieg
0
No votes
Klobuchar
1
2%
Steyer
0
No votes
 
Total votes : 46

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Postby Rojava Free State » Thu Feb 13, 2020 8:32 pm

Cisairse wrote:
Nobel Hobos 2 wrote:
Bloomberg is apparently 5'8" tall, average for a guy his age.

See what he needs is a bouffant, add a couple of inches that way.


For a white man that's rather short. Average height for white men is 5' 10" to 6' 0", depending on what year you pull data from.


The average for white guys has to be 6 feet. When I'm around them, it seems like 75% of them are taller than I am and I'm 5'9

They say height decreases on average as you head south from Norway to the Mediterranean
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Postby Farnhamia » Thu Feb 13, 2020 8:33 pm

Bear Stearns wrote:Check out Gabriel Matzneff. Funny how so many people like him are always involved in those sorts of behaviors, eh?

Which has what to do with the topic?
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Postby Gormwood » Thu Feb 13, 2020 8:35 pm

Farnhamia wrote:
Bear Stearns wrote:Check out Gabriel Matzneff. Funny how so many people like him are always involved in those sorts of behaviors, eh?

Which has what to do with the topic?

Nothing. He just likes posting nonsequiturs.
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Postby Ifreann » Thu Feb 13, 2020 8:37 pm

Rojava Free State wrote:
Cisairse wrote:
For a white man that's rather short. Average height for white men is 5' 10" to 6' 0", depending on what year you pull data from.


The average for white guys has to be 6 feet. When I'm around them, it seems like 75% of them are taller than I am and I'm 5'9

They say height decreases on average as you head south from Norway to the Mediterranean

The average height for non-Hispanic white American males is 177cm, 5'9.5".
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Postby Arlenton » Thu Feb 13, 2020 8:43 pm

Cisairse wrote:
Nobel Hobos 2 wrote:
Bloomberg is apparently 5'8" tall, average for a guy his age.

See what he needs is a bouffant, add a couple of inches that way.


For a white man that's rather short. Average height for white men is 5' 10" to 6' 0", depending on what year you pull data from.

I'm 5'7" and I'd say I'm way below average for a white male. 5'8" is not much taller.
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Postby Farnhamia » Thu Feb 13, 2020 8:44 pm

Gormwood wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:Which has what to do with the topic?

Nothing. He just likes posting nonsequiturs.

And you like putting your oar in where it doesn't belong.
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Postby Yodelstan » Thu Feb 13, 2020 9:00 pm

Rojava Free State wrote:
Cisairse wrote:
For a white man that's rather short. Average height for white men is 5' 10" to 6' 0", depending on what year you pull data from.


The average for white guys has to be 6 feet. When I'm around them, it seems like 75% of them are taller than I am and I'm 5'9

They say height decreases on average as you head south from Norway to the Mediterranean

You haven't been around many white men then.

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Postby South Odreria 2 » Thu Feb 13, 2020 10:03 pm

So is there going to be any polling of Nevada or
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Postby Cisairse » Thu Feb 13, 2020 10:11 pm

South Odreria 2 wrote:So is there going to be any polling of Nevada or


Don't need it
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Postby The JELLEAIN Republic » Thu Feb 13, 2020 10:40 pm

Cisairse wrote:
South Odreria 2 wrote:So is there going to be any polling of Nevada or


Don't need it


O.0

Who usually funds the main polling options,
Do they have a public schedule ?
What do they get funding from ?

These are all important questions I think...
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Postby The JELLEAIN Republic » Thu Feb 13, 2020 10:44 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Shrillland wrote:
No...I just removed Yang from the list resetting the poll.


No Sorting Hat?!


Easy.
Get an enclosed grid,
Get chicken,
Put grid on floor.
Feed chicken.
Put chicken in grid.
See where it poops.

That is your random number generator that you can use.
And don’t worry, it’s government approved.
It’s how they decided split elections in Iowa (I heard here).
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Postby Shrillland » Thu Feb 13, 2020 10:47 pm

Well, I don't know if this has been mentioned yet, but the powerful Culinary Union in Nevada is being incredibly myopic about M4A and refusing to endorse a candidate: https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/13/politics/culinary-union-nevada-democratic-caucuses/index.html

You'd think that with healthcare dealt with on a national level, the union could use all that money on things like pensions or at least pension supplements for some of their workers.
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Postby True Refuge » Thu Feb 13, 2020 10:49 pm

Shrillland wrote:Well, I don't know if this has been mentioned yet, but the powerful Culinary Union in Nevada is being incredibly myopic about M4A and refusing to endorse a candidate: https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/13/politics/culinary-union-nevada-democratic-caucuses/index.html

You'd think that with healthcare dealt with on a national level, the union could use all that money on things like pensions or at least pension supplements for some of their workers.


Sounds like a shit union. One of the biggest benefits of public healthcare to workers is stopping employers from using employer-provided healthcare as leverage.
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Postby Shrillland » Thu Feb 13, 2020 10:50 pm

True Refuge wrote:
Shrillland wrote:Well, I don't know if this has been mentioned yet, but the powerful Culinary Union in Nevada is being incredibly myopic about M4A and refusing to endorse a candidate: https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/13/politics/culinary-union-nevada-democratic-caucuses/index.html

You'd think that with healthcare dealt with on a national level, the union could use all that money on things like pensions or at least pension supplements for some of their workers.


Sounds like a shit union. One of the biggest benefits of public healthcare to workers is stopping employers from using employer-provided healthcare as leverage.


That's what my family's old union, the Boilermakers, always thought. Even when they're the ones providing healthcare to their workers, they'd gladly give it up if it meant that everyone had it. And, as I said, all the money they'd make on premiums could go to pension contributions instead.
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Postby Corrian » Thu Feb 13, 2020 10:53 pm

Well, Bernie Supporters are also treating the Union like absolute shit because fuck the whole message of our campaign I guess, so I'm not too surprised they wouldn't want Bernie since Bernie has a lot of supporters as bad as Trump supporters.
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Postby True Refuge » Thu Feb 13, 2020 10:55 pm

Corrian wrote:Well, Bernie Supporters are also treating the Union like absolute shit because fuck the whole message of our campaign I guess, so I'm not too surprised they wouldn't want Bernie since Bernie has a lot of supporters as bad as Trump supporters.


Shit unions that don't take opportunities to help their members need to be pressured into reforming.

Labour unionism is good. Potentially self-serving union management is not.
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Postby Corrian » Thu Feb 13, 2020 10:57 pm

True Refuge wrote:
Corrian wrote:Well, Bernie Supporters are also treating the Union like absolute shit because fuck the whole message of our campaign I guess, so I'm not too surprised they wouldn't want Bernie since Bernie has a lot of supporters as bad as Trump supporters.


Shit unions that don't take opportunities to help their members need to be pressured into reforming.

Labour unionism is good. Potentially self-serving union management is not.

There's pressuring them and then there's what Bernie supporters have been doing.
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Postby True Refuge » Thu Feb 13, 2020 10:59 pm

Corrian wrote:
True Refuge wrote:
Shit unions that don't take opportunities to help their members need to be pressured into reforming.

Labour unionism is good. Potentially self-serving union management is not.

There's pressuring them and then there's what Bernie supporters have been doing.


What have have they been doing?
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Postby Imperial Joseon » Thu Feb 13, 2020 11:00 pm

Shrillland wrote:
True Refuge wrote:
Sounds like a shit union. One of the biggest benefits of public healthcare to workers is stopping employers from using employer-provided healthcare as leverage.


That's what my family's old union, the Boilermakers, always thought. Even when they're the ones providing healthcare to their workers, they'd gladly give it up if it meant that everyone had it. And, as I said, all the money they'd make on premiums could go to pension contributions instead.


In places like Norway and Canada, you get universal healthcare and pension.
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Postby Shrillland » Thu Feb 13, 2020 11:02 pm

Imperial Joseon wrote:
Shrillland wrote:
That's what my family's old union, the Boilermakers, always thought. Even when they're the ones providing healthcare to their workers, they'd gladly give it up if it meant that everyone had it. And, as I said, all the money they'd make on premiums could go to pension contributions instead.


In places like Norway and Canada, you get universal healthcare and pension.


Oh, absolutely, but we're not at that point yet. Americans have been too far right for too long, hence being devoid of all the things that make civilised nations civilised.
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Postby Imperial Joseon » Thu Feb 13, 2020 11:04 pm

Shrillland wrote:
Imperial Joseon wrote:
In places like Norway and Canada, you get universal healthcare and pension.


Oh, absolutely, but we're not at that point yet. Americans have been too far right for too long, hence being devoid of all the things that make civilised nations civilised.


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Postby Uiiop » Thu Feb 13, 2020 11:06 pm

Corrian wrote:Well, Bernie Supporters are also treating the Union like absolute shit because fuck the whole message of our campaign I guess, so I'm not too surprised they wouldn't want Bernie since Bernie has a lot of supporters as bad as Trump supporters.

I'm sure some dicks moves went down but they were already being critical beforehand.
They complained about it as they should but they haven't listed as an influence.
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Postby Nobel Hobos 2 » Thu Feb 13, 2020 11:06 pm

Cisairse wrote:
Nobel Hobos 2 wrote:
Bloomberg is apparently 5'8" tall, average for a guy his age.

See what he needs is a bouffant, add a couple of inches that way.


For a white man that's rather short. Average height for white men is 5' 10" to 6' 0", depending on what year you pull data from.


He's not an average white man, he's an old white man. It makes a difference.

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Postby Cisairse » Thu Feb 13, 2020 11:07 pm

The JELLEAIN Republic wrote:
Cisairse wrote:
Don't need it


O.0

Who usually funds the main polling options,
Do they have a public schedule ?
What do they get funding from ?

These are all important questions I think...


The DNC picks media organizations to "certify" and those media organizations then pay pollsters to actually do the polls. Who runs the polls themselves is up to the media organizations.
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Postby Uiiop » Thu Feb 13, 2020 11:14 pm

Uiiop wrote:
Corrian wrote:Well, Bernie Supporters are also treating the Union like absolute shit because fuck the whole message of our campaign I guess, so I'm not too surprised they wouldn't want Bernie since Bernie has a lot of supporters as bad as Trump supporters.

I'm sure some dicks moves went down but they were already being critical beforehand.
They complained about it as they should but they haven't listed as an influence.

What doesn't help is some people is exaggerating and misrepresenting shit as worse than it is.
I saw dumb Warren jokes and using an obscure but public interview got twisted into the premier example of toxicity and doxxing respectfully.

I blame twitter it's all too easy to inadvertently harass someone and/or warp people's comments into something worse than it is.
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