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Who do you think will win South Carolina?

Sanders
27
59%
Warren
0
No votes
Biden
18
39%
Buttigieg
0
No votes
Klobuchar
1
2%
Steyer
0
No votes
 
Total votes : 46

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Postby Corrian » Thu Feb 13, 2020 12:50 pm

So early and maybe off predictions that I might update by next votes.
Nevada: I think Bernie will end up winning Nevada.
South Carolina: As of right now, I think Biden will probably still win, but I think he'll win much more narrowly than he was supposed to have, with Bernie right behind him. Though with the trend of Biden way underperforming so far, with 4th in Iowa (A state he was supposed to narrowly win or be in 2nd) and 5th in New Hampshire where he's supposed to have been like 2nd at worst, I wouldn't be surprised if my expectations are broken and he manages to actually lose the state, and I think at that point Biden's whole campaign is in jeopardy.
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Postby USS Monitor » Thu Feb 13, 2020 12:53 pm

Corrian wrote:So early and maybe off predictions that I might update by next votes.
Nevada: I think Bernie will end up winning Nevada.
South Carolina: As of right now, I think Biden will probably still win, but I think he'll win much more narrowly than he was supposed to have, with Bernie right behind him. Though with the trend of Biden way underperforming so far, with 4th in Iowa (A state he was supposed to narrowly win or be in 2nd) and 5th in New Hampshire where he's supposed to have been like 2nd at worst, I wouldn't be surprised if my expectations are broken and he manages to actually lose the state, and I think at that point Biden's whole campaign is in jeopardy.


I think Nevada will accelerate Biden's drop in the polls before SC votes. Biden's campaign is going down.
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Postby The Emerald Legion » Thu Feb 13, 2020 12:55 pm

USS Monitor wrote:
Corrian wrote:So early and maybe off predictions that I might update by next votes.
Nevada: I think Bernie will end up winning Nevada.
South Carolina: As of right now, I think Biden will probably still win, but I think he'll win much more narrowly than he was supposed to have, with Bernie right behind him. Though with the trend of Biden way underperforming so far, with 4th in Iowa (A state he was supposed to narrowly win or be in 2nd) and 5th in New Hampshire where he's supposed to have been like 2nd at worst, I wouldn't be surprised if my expectations are broken and he manages to actually lose the state, and I think at that point Biden's whole campaign is in jeopardy.


I think Nevada will accelerate Biden's drop in the polls before SC votes. Biden's campaign is going down.


Yeah. My granddads old neighbor ain't doing so well. Which I suppose is good news for me, since I won't have to feel like I'm stabbing him in the back by not voting for him.
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Postby The World Capitalist Confederation » Thu Feb 13, 2020 12:58 pm

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LimaUniformNovemberAlpha wrote:Cenk was suggesting last night Bernie Sanders running with Elizabeth Warren as running mate.

No. Just no. Republicans smear Democrats as adulterers enough without a man and woman next to each other on the campaign trail to add fuel to the fire.


Cos it was so effective last time they accused Warren of having an extra-marital affair. :lol2:

Also, WTF dude? Get your mind out of the gutter. I don't think anybody except you looks at those two and immediately wants to think about their sex life.

Not to mention they're both in their 70s.
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Postby Gormwood » Thu Feb 13, 2020 1:07 pm

The World Capitalist Confederation wrote:
USS Monitor wrote:
Cos it was so effective last time they accused Warren of having an extra-marital affair. :lol2:

Also, WTF dude? Get your mind out of the gutter. I don't think anybody except you looks at those two and immediately wants to think about their sex life.

Not to mention they're both in their 70s.

You know someone will make Sanders/Warren porn just because.
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Postby Telconi » Thu Feb 13, 2020 1:20 pm

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The World Capitalist Confederation wrote:Not to mention they're both in their 70s.

You know someone will make Sanders/Warren porn just because.


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Postby United States of Devonta » Thu Feb 13, 2020 1:27 pm

Telconi wrote:
Gormwood wrote:You know someone will make Sanders/Warren porn just because.


Self fulfilling prophecy?


I don't want to see any of that
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Postby The Emerald Legion » Thu Feb 13, 2020 1:28 pm

United States of Devonta wrote:
Telconi wrote:
Self fulfilling prophecy?


I don't want to see any of that


But someone. Somewhere. Will think it's the most mind blowingly attractive thing they've seen.

If the internet has taught me anything it's that if there is a way for people to be wrong, they will do so with disturbing gusto.
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Postby Diopolis » Thu Feb 13, 2020 1:35 pm

Gormwood wrote:
The World Capitalist Confederation wrote:Not to mention they're both in their 70s.

You know someone will make Sanders/Warren porn just because.

OOH baby you really stick it to the capitalist system.
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Postby Gormwood » Thu Feb 13, 2020 1:52 pm

United States of Devonta wrote:
Telconi wrote:
Self fulfilling prophecy?


I don't want to see any of that

They made "Nailin' Palin". Rule 34.
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Postby Gormwood » Thu Feb 13, 2020 1:54 pm

Diopolis wrote:
Gormwood wrote:You know someone will make Sanders/Warren porn just because.

OOH baby you really stick it to the capitalist system.

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Postby Serksis Federation » Thu Feb 13, 2020 2:05 pm

I think, or hope this is where the Democratic party slowly starts to decline enough to allow a third party to either rise to compete or replace the Dems in future elections.
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Postby Czechostan » Thu Feb 13, 2020 2:18 pm

Serksis Federation wrote:I think, or hope this is where the Democratic party slowly starts to decline enough to allow a third party to either rise to compete or replace the Dems in future elections.

We'll see. Remember back when Al Smith, Huey Long, Strom Thurmond, and FDR all belonged to the Democratic Party? The Dems had their splinter groups, but they either reincorporated into the party or crossed the aisle and joined the Republicans. American political parties are surprisingly successful at being a hodge-podge of irreconcilable ideologies.

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Postby Valrifell » Thu Feb 13, 2020 2:19 pm

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Serksis Federation wrote:I think, or hope this is where the Democratic party slowly starts to decline enough to allow a third party to either rise to compete or replace the Dems in future elections.

We'll see. Remember back when Al Smith, Huey Long, Strom Thurmond, and FDR all belonged to the Democratic Party? The Dems had their splinter groups, but they either reincorporated into the party or crossed the aisle and joined the Republicans. American political parties are surprisingly successful at being a hodge-podge of irreconcilable ideologies.


The American political parties aren't like the political parties of other nations, imo, they're more like governing coalitions sold as two parties.
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Postby Czechostan » Thu Feb 13, 2020 2:21 pm


Wow! So #relatable!
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Postby Czechostan » Thu Feb 13, 2020 2:24 pm

Valrifell wrote:
Czechostan wrote:We'll see. Remember back when Al Smith, Huey Long, Strom Thurmond, and FDR all belonged to the Democratic Party? The Dems had their splinter groups, but they either reincorporated into the party or crossed the aisle and joined the Republicans. American political parties are surprisingly successful at being a hodge-podge of irreconcilable ideologies.


The American political parties aren't like the political parties of other nations, imo, they're more like governing coalitions sold as two parties.

The Dems are the vaguely centre to centre-left guys, the Republicans are the vaguely centre-right to right guys... The thing is, they used to be amorphous coalitions that overlapped. Now, they've separated.

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Postby United States of Devonta » Thu Feb 13, 2020 2:37 pm

National @MorningConsult Poll Among Black Voters:

Biden 34% (-1 From Pre NH Primary Poll)
Sanders 30% (+3)
Bloomberg 19% (+3*)
Warren 8% (-)
Buttigieg 4% (-)

Hispanic Voters:

Sanders 48% (+10)
Bloomberg 17% (+1)
Biden 13% (-4)
Buttigieg 8% (+2)
Warren 7% (+4)

https://twitter.com/PpollingNumbers/sta ... 8962839555

Sanders also won the majority of votes from Black and Hispanics in the early states of Iowa and New Hampshire, all be it a small part of the electorate. This is bad for Biden. Sanders has enough white working class support combined with those from black voters to make gains in the south (Biden's firewall).

North Carolina, @HighPointU, Poll Among Registered Voters:

Sanders 25%
Biden 19%
Bloomberg 13%
Warren 12%
Buttigieg 6%
Steyer/Klobuchar 3%

https://twitter.com/PpollingNumbers/sta ... 5961957376

Bernie is breaking into that firewall it seems. All he needs todo is at least take some delegates away.
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Postby Page » Thu Feb 13, 2020 2:43 pm

United States of Devonta wrote:
Bernie is breaking into that firewall it seems. All he needs todo is at least take some delegates away.


That's good to see but I'm also disgusted with how successful Bloomberg has been so far with buying his way into the race.
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Postby Diopolis » Thu Feb 13, 2020 2:46 pm

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Diopolis wrote:OOH baby you really stick it to the capitalist system.

"You're the 1% where it really counts!"

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Postby Jerzylvania » Thu Feb 13, 2020 2:51 pm

USS Monitor wrote:
Corrian wrote:So early and maybe off predictions that I might update by next votes.
Nevada: I think Bernie will end up winning Nevada.
South Carolina: As of right now, I think Biden will probably still win, but I think he'll win much more narrowly than he was supposed to have, with Bernie right behind him. Though with the trend of Biden way underperforming so far, with 4th in Iowa (A state he was supposed to narrowly win or be in 2nd) and 5th in New Hampshire where he's supposed to have been like 2nd at worst, I wouldn't be surprised if my expectations are broken and he manages to actually lose the state, and I think at that point Biden's whole campaign is in jeopardy.


I think Nevada will accelerate Biden's drop in the polls before SC votes. Biden's campaign is going down.


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Postby Fartsniffage » Thu Feb 13, 2020 2:53 pm

Telconi wrote:
Gormwood wrote:You know someone will make Sanders/Warren porn just because.


Self fulfilling prophecy?


The was Theresa May/Jeremy Corbyn porn made back in 2016.

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Postby Thermodolia » Thu Feb 13, 2020 2:54 pm

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Thermodolia wrote:Because those with democrat “membership” make up less than 20% of the population. It’s highly undemocratic to have only 20% of the people choose the nominee for the 80%


The fact that you're implicitly assuming that there's only 1 or 2 candidates makes me said.

Unfortunately that’s the case in the US. I wish we where a multi-party democracy but the reality is that we aren’t
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Postby Diopolis » Thu Feb 13, 2020 2:55 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Cisairse wrote:
The fact that you're implicitly assuming that there's only 1 or 2 candidates makes me said.

Unfortunately that’s the case in the US. I wish we where a multi-party democracy but the reality is that we aren’t

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Postby Jerzylvania » Thu Feb 13, 2020 2:57 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:
Telconi wrote:
Self fulfilling prophecy?


The was Theresa May/Jeremy Corbyn porn made back in 2016.


These are images which are not allowed into my brain for fear of the bleach bath that shall need to come shortly afterwards.
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