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Who do you think will win South Carolina?

Sanders
27
59%
Warren
0
No votes
Biden
18
39%
Buttigieg
0
No votes
Klobuchar
1
2%
Steyer
0
No votes
 
Total votes : 46

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Postby Rojava Free State » Tue Feb 11, 2020 8:16 pm

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I wouldn't be surprised if there's NO SODA AT ALL on the Bloomberg campaign.

The "soda ban" never actually happened, but as Mayor he did ban smoking in a lot of places, and required calorie counts on restaurant menus (both good policies imo) so why is it that everyone who hates Bloomberg concentrates on what he didn't actually do?

Because he tried and was only stopped by the courts. But where's the harm in actually not doing something?

Sorry is NO ONE talking about the tapes of him that've leaked??????


What happened? As an anti-bloomberger, I need to hear this
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Postby Senkaku » Tue Feb 11, 2020 8:17 pm

Rojava Free State wrote:Joe Biden's shit campaign is catching up to him. I was wondering how he was the front runner for months and now it's coming out that he isn't really he front runner after all. He's not even the second in line

turns out when your rationale for being elected is "i'm doing well in the polls" your support is sometimes a teensy bit soft :p
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Postby Lower Nubia » Tue Feb 11, 2020 8:17 pm

Rojava Free State wrote:Joe Biden's shit campaign is catching up to him. I was wondering how he was the front runner for months and now it's coming out that he isn't really he front runner after all. He's not even the second in line


It will likely change when the South gets involved. Biden still remains a top choice in the Conservative states.
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Postby Senkaku » Tue Feb 11, 2020 8:17 pm

Rojava Free State wrote:
Senkaku wrote:Sorry is NO ONE talking about the tapes of him that've leaked??????


What happened? As an anti-bloomberger, I need to hear this

His remarks at Aspen talking about stop and frisk???

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/02/1 ... lip-113902

it's really bad
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Postby Nobel Hobos 2 » Tue Feb 11, 2020 8:18 pm

Corrian wrote:Sweet Jesus the margin has dropped to 2%.


And if he comes second, it won't be by much. Remember, when your guy wins the popular vote that's what matters. If they don't, it's the delegate count that matters. And if you lose both, you say something about taking one for the team. Life goes on.

I'm following CNN because they give the vote percentage to one decimal place. I get yanked around less that way.

It's 2.5% Nope, now 2.1%
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Postby Farnhamia » Tue Feb 11, 2020 8:18 pm

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Farnhamia wrote: :roll: Source on paying mayors and leaders? Name some names. Your Putin comparison is laughable.

"unless he literally is handing out suitcases full of cash in garages at night it's not corruption :^)))))))"

seriously Farn?

Seriously. Show me the corruption. You know how it goes, pics or it never happened. I want sauce, damn it!
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Tue Feb 11, 2020 8:19 pm

Rojava Free State wrote:Joe Biden's shit campaign is catching up to him. I was wondering how he was the front runner for months and now it's coming out that he isn't really he front runner after all. He's not even the second in line

He did eschew early states in favor of concentrating on a good showing on Super Tuesday, a strategy that worked wonders for Clinton and Guiliani in 2008.
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Postby Zurkerx » Tue Feb 11, 2020 8:20 pm

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I mean, it's going to change since this is a NH Poll for who we all think is going to win. Next will be Nevada, and that's if Shrill changes it :p


And Shrill will change it, just give it a day or so for the fallout from tonight...though I don't see anyone else leaving on these numbers myself.


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Postby Rojava Free State » Tue Feb 11, 2020 8:20 pm

Senkaku wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:
What happened? As an anti-bloomberger, I need to hear this

His remarks at Aspen talking about stop and frisk???

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/02/1 ... lip-113902

it's really bad


You’ve got to get the guns out of the hands of the people that are getting killed."


Hell the fuck no I'm not down with bloomberg disarming minorities
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Postby Senkaku » Tue Feb 11, 2020 8:20 pm

Farnhamia wrote:You know how it goes, pics or it never happened.

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Postby Rojava Free State » Tue Feb 11, 2020 8:21 pm

Cannot think of a name wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:Joe Biden's shit campaign is catching up to him. I was wondering how he was the front runner for months and now it's coming out that he isn't really he front runner after all. He's not even the second in line

He did eschew early states in favor of concentrating on a good showing on Super Tuesday, a strategy that worked wonders for Clinton and Guiliani in 2008.


Which is why Clinton went on to be nominated and win the presidency in 2008...


...In an alternate universe
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Postby Corrian » Tue Feb 11, 2020 8:21 pm

Nobel Hobos 2 wrote:
Corrian wrote:Sweet Jesus the margin has dropped to 2%.


And if he comes second, it won't be by much. Remember, when your guy wins the popular vote that's what matters. If they don't, it's the delegate count that matters. And if you lose both, you say something about taking one for the team. Life goes on.

I'm following CNN because they give the vote percentage to one decimal place. I get yanked around less that way.

It's 2.5% Nope, now 2.1%

NYTimes has it as 2%

Edit: Make that 1.8%
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Postby Senkaku » Tue Feb 11, 2020 8:22 pm

Farnhamia wrote:
Senkaku wrote:"unless he literally is handing out suitcases full of cash in garages at night it's not corruption :^)))))))"

seriously Farn?

Seriously. Show me the corruption. You know how it goes, pics or it never happened. I want sauce, damn it!

fair enough i guess we shall all just move along and accept the perfectly legitimate right of any citizen to buy political advertisements, it can't be anything but good for democracy i'm sure :^)

glad to see you're on the side of truth justice and the american way™
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Postby Lower Nubia » Tue Feb 11, 2020 8:22 pm

Corrian wrote:
Nobel Hobos 2 wrote:
And if he comes second, it won't be by much. Remember, when your guy wins the popular vote that's what matters. If they don't, it's the delegate count that matters. And if you lose both, you say something about taking one for the team. Life goes on.

I'm following CNN because they give the vote percentage to one decimal place. I get yanked around less that way.

It's 2.5% Nope, now 2.1%

NYTimes has it as 2%

Edit: Make that 1.8%


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Postby The Lone Alliance » Tue Feb 11, 2020 8:23 pm

Senkaku wrote:
Farnhamia wrote: :roll: Source on paying mayors and leaders? Name some names. Your Putin comparison is laughable.

"unless he literally is handing out suitcases full of cash in garages at night it's not corruption :^)))))))"

seriously Farn?

Yeah giving $500,000 grants to the cities of mayors who support him and wining and dining them and giving them free education courses isn't bribery at all.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/14/us/p ... -2020.html

I'll also throw in the article I posted yesterday.

https://www.currentaffairs.org/2020/02/ ... nomination
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Postby Senkaku » Tue Feb 11, 2020 8:23 pm

Corrian wrote:
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And if he comes second, it won't be by much. Remember, when your guy wins the popular vote that's what matters. If they don't, it's the delegate count that matters. And if you lose both, you say something about taking one for the team. Life goes on.

I'm following CNN because they give the vote percentage to one decimal place. I get yanked around less that way.

It's 2.5% Nope, now 2.1%

NYTimes has it as 2%

Edit: Make that 1.8%

hey you know what I've always wanted

someone on NSG to post the numbers being posted on other websites of an incomplete vote count as it's being posted on those other websites that I could easily check myself

that would be such a useful and necessary service
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Postby Czechostan » Tue Feb 11, 2020 8:24 pm

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Czechostan wrote:Bloomberg's supporters will get to drink soda out of 24 oz cups instead of regulation 16 oz cups when he's in office.


I wouldn't be surprised if there's NO SODA AT ALL on the Bloomberg campaign.

The "soda ban" never actually happened, but as Mayor he did ban smoking in a lot of places, and required calorie counts on restaurant menus (both good policies imo) so why is it that everyone who hates Bloomberg concentrates on what he didn't actually do?

Because he tried and was only stopped by the courts. But where's the harm in actually not doing something?

It's just a perfect embodiment of the nanny state that many Americans detest, regardless of the fact that the soda law was struck down.

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Postby Nobel Hobos 2 » Tue Feb 11, 2020 8:25 pm

Rojava Free State wrote:
Senkaku wrote:His remarks at Aspen talking about stop and frisk???

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/02/1 ... lip-113902

it's really bad


You’ve got to get the guns out of the hands of the people that are getting killed."


Hell the fuck no I'm not down with bloomberg disarming minorities


Investigating rather than disarming seems to be the meaning.

I'm not down with racial profiling of suspects, it's hardly OK just because he's racially profiling victims as well.

When and where did he make these comments? Could be a fake.
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Postby Corrian » Tue Feb 11, 2020 8:25 pm

Senkaku wrote:
Corrian wrote:NYTimes has it as 2%

Edit: Make that 1.8%

hey you know what I've always wanted

someone on NSG to post the numbers being posted on other websites of an incomplete vote count as it's being posted on those other websites that I could easily check myself

that would be such a useful and necessary service

I'm pointing out the fact mine showed completely different numbers in percentages, but it looks like theirs dropped too before I posted a response.
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Postby Senkaku » Tue Feb 11, 2020 8:26 pm

Nobel Hobos 2 wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:


Hell the fuck no I'm not down with bloomberg disarming minorities


Investigating rather than disarming seems to be the meaning.

I'm not down with racial profiling of suspects, it's hardly OK just because he's racially profiling victims as well.

When and where did he make these comments? Could be a fake.

Yes, Politico, CNN, the New York Times, and every other giant outlet that's been running this all day are all known for not double-checking if explosive tapes they receive are outright fabrications lmao

He made them in 2015 at a speech in Aspen
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Tue Feb 11, 2020 8:26 pm

Rojava Free State wrote:
Cannot think of a name wrote:He did eschew early states in favor of concentrating on a good showing on Super Tuesday, a strategy that worked wonders for Clinton and Guiliani in 2008.


Which is why Clinton went on to be nominated and win the presidency in 2008...


...In an alternate universe

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Postby Corrian » Tue Feb 11, 2020 8:29 pm

Senkaku wrote:
Nobel Hobos 2 wrote:
Investigating rather than disarming seems to be the meaning.

I'm not down with racial profiling of suspects, it's hardly OK just because he's racially profiling victims as well.

When and where did he make these comments? Could be a fake.

Yes, Politico, CNN, the New York Times, and every other giant outlet that's been running this all day are all known for not double-checking if explosive tapes they receive are outright fabrications lmao

He made them in 2015 at a speech in Aspen

Which is great considering at this point he's supposed to have been "changed".
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Postby Farnhamia » Tue Feb 11, 2020 8:33 pm

The Lone Alliance wrote:
Senkaku wrote:"unless he literally is handing out suitcases full of cash in garages at night it's not corruption :^)))))))"

seriously Farn?

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/14/us/p ... -2020.html

I'll also throw in the article I posted yesterday.

https://www.currentaffairs.org/2020/02/ ... nomination

There, was that so hard?

Bribery, schmibery ... Bloomberg has a foundation and uses its funds to help towns and cities. He could be buying portraits of himself, I suppose, or using the money to settle lawsuits. He isn't, though, he's helping people.

I think you're making a mountain out of a molehill. I think Bloomberg would make a good candidate against Trump and a decent president. Of course, the bar for "decent president" has been set so low - it's basically lying on the ground - that that's not saying much. I find the hysterical reactions to Bloomberg more distasteful than his policies and the way he's campaigning.
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Postby Shrillland » Tue Feb 11, 2020 8:34 pm

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And Shrill will change it, just give it a day or so for the fallout from tonight...though I don't see anyone else leaving on these numbers myself.


Very well though will- a billion dollars change your mind?

*slips a billion towards Shrill.


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Postby Rojava Free State » Tue Feb 11, 2020 8:36 pm

Nobel Hobos 2 wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:


Hell the fuck no I'm not down with bloomberg disarming minorities


Investigating rather than disarming seems to be the meaning.

I'm not down with racial profiling of suspects, it's hardly OK just because he's racially profiling victims as well.

When and where did he make these comments? Could be a fake.


They were on tape, and I doubt they were fake when the policy mike had in place matched this kind of thinking
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