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Who do you think will win South Carolina?

Sanders
27
59%
Warren
0
No votes
Biden
18
39%
Buttigieg
0
No votes
Klobuchar
1
2%
Steyer
0
No votes
 
Total votes : 46

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Postby Cannot think of a name » Tue Feb 11, 2020 7:44 pm

Interesting notion, Klobuchar kept this race alive:
We don’t know where Klobuchar picked up her late surge from, and a lot of it was probably from Warren and Biden. But one thing that does seem plausible is that if she hadn’t had such a strong debate or been judged the winner of the debate, Buttigieg would be leading Sanders right now.
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Postby Zurkerx » Tue Feb 11, 2020 7:45 pm

The South Falls wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:Yang and Bennet have always been middle-tier candidates, at best. Bottom-tier for Bennet, to be honest. This is the second actual contest, not a "debate." Biden didn't do well, but he's a seasoned politician and knows how to read his donors and the polls. If those readings are telling him he can press on, he will. It would be very unlike him to drop out this early.

Admittedly, he might just not have a base of support in these states. He might just be bide-n his time to garner better results from other primaries.


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Postby Farnhamia » Tue Feb 11, 2020 7:45 pm

Cannot think of a name wrote:Interesting notion, Klobuchar kept this race alive:
We don’t know where Klobuchar picked up her late surge from, and a lot of it was probably from Warren and Biden. But one thing that does seem plausible is that if she hadn’t had such a strong debate or been judged the winner of the debate, Buttigieg would be leading Sanders right now.

From the NY Times, "The exit polls show a big gender gap: 57% of voters were women, 43% were men. Klobuchar won a plurality of women and Sanders of men."
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Postby Thermodolia » Tue Feb 11, 2020 7:46 pm

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Farnhamia wrote:What's with the venom? Did you think he'd collapse in tears? Did you want him to collapse in tears?


Besides, it isn't his demise yet. We still have Nevada and South Carolina to go. If he collapses there, then I'll call his death. Right now, he's still got a decent shot.

His campaign is on life support. The Biden we saw 8 years ago isn’t the same Biden we have now. It seems like he’s aged badly
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Postby The South Falls » Tue Feb 11, 2020 7:48 pm

Zurkerx wrote:
The South Falls wrote:Admittedly, he might just not have a base of support in these states. He might just be bide-n his time to garner better results from other primaries.


Clever pun, I like it.

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Postby Corrian » Tue Feb 11, 2020 7:48 pm

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Postby Farnhamia » Tue Feb 11, 2020 7:49 pm


I agree. Milling around in badly heated school gymnasia is not the way to conduct party business.
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Postby Zurkerx » Tue Feb 11, 2020 7:51 pm

Oh my, Sanders is under 3 points now. That is something I wasn't expecting at this point.
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Tue Feb 11, 2020 7:52 pm

Farnhamia wrote:

I agree. Milling around in badly heated school gymnasia is not the way to conduct party business.

It's barely how we should conduct school sports.
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Postby Farnhamia » Tue Feb 11, 2020 7:52 pm

Zurkerx wrote:Oh my, Sanders is under 3 points now. That is something I wasn't expecting at this point.

Huh?
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Postby The South Falls » Tue Feb 11, 2020 7:52 pm

Farnhamia wrote:

I agree. Milling around in badly heated school gymnasia is not the way to conduct party business.

Honestly, democracy isn't the way. I think a goat-operated plutocracy is the proper way to administer a state, and anyone who says otherwise will be terminated when my state is realized.
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Cannot think of a name wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:I agree. Milling around in badly heated school gymnasia is not the way to conduct party business.

It's barely how we should conduct school sports.

Truly.
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Postby Farnhamia » Tue Feb 11, 2020 7:53 pm

The South Falls wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:I agree. Milling around in badly heated school gymnasia is not the way to conduct party business.

Honestly, democracy isn't the way. I think a goat-operated plutocracy is the proper way to administer a state, and anyone who says otherwise will be terminated when my state is realized.

Kyrusia doesn't want the responsibility.
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Postby Aureumterra » Tue Feb 11, 2020 7:53 pm

Trump won the Republican primary, in case anyone’s wondering
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Postby Corrian » Tue Feb 11, 2020 7:53 pm

Klobuchar almost has 20% of the vote.
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Postby Zurkerx » Tue Feb 11, 2020 7:54 pm

Farnhamia wrote:
Zurkerx wrote:Oh my, Sanders is under 3 points now. That is something I wasn't expecting at this point.

Huh?


Sanders, based on CNN, has 26.7%; Buttigieg has 23.8%; Klobuchar 19.9%. 59% is so far in.

I'm watching live.
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Postby Nobel Hobos 2 » Tue Feb 11, 2020 7:54 pm

Cannot think of a name wrote:Interesting notion, Klobuchar kept this race alive:
We don’t know where Klobuchar picked up her late surge from, and a lot of it was probably from Warren and Biden. But one thing that does seem plausible is that if she hadn’t had such a strong debate or been judged the winner of the debate, Buttigieg would be leading Sanders right now.


The voters are just sniffing around for anyone who isn't Sanders and isn't Biden. It's Steyer's turn next. :p

There's a serious point I have though. Part of testing out the lesser candidates is to see what they're like when they're not just a plucky underdog. They have to be examined for possible arrogance or poor judgement, so let them have a sniff of victory.
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Postby Corrian » Tue Feb 11, 2020 7:56 pm

I feel like with how things have gone so far, a contested convention looks more likely.
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Postby Nobel Hobos 2 » Tue Feb 11, 2020 7:56 pm

Aureumterra wrote:Trump won the Republican primary, in case anyone’s wondering


I won't object to you calling it at 58%. He is going to win.

Nice 8% for Weld though, that's good against an incumbent of the same party.
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Postby Thermodolia » Tue Feb 11, 2020 7:57 pm

Nobel Hobos 2 wrote:
Cannot think of a name wrote:Interesting notion, Klobuchar kept this race alive:


The voters are just sniffing around for anyone who isn't Sanders and isn't Biden. It's Steyer's turn next. :p

There's a serious point I have though. Part of testing out the lesser candidates is to see what they're like when they're not just a plucky underdog. They have to be examined for possible arrogance or poor judgement, so let them have a sniff of victory.

True for all we know Klobuchar could crash her campaign just a quickly as she gained popularity
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Postby Farnhamia » Tue Feb 11, 2020 7:57 pm

Zurkerx wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:Huh?


Sanders, based on CNN, has 26.7%; Buttigieg has 23.8%; Klobuchar 19.9%. 59% is so far in.

I'm watching live.

Oh, percentage difference between them. Gotcha. *tells Guards to send the pamphlet on "Clarity In Posting"*
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Postby Kowani » Tue Feb 11, 2020 7:57 pm

Zurkerx wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:Huh?


Sanders, based on CNN, has 26.7%; Buttigieg has 23.8%; Klobuchar 19.9%. 59% is so far in.

I'm watching live.

Don’t forget, the university towns-where Bernie pretty much dominates, haven’t reported in yet.
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Postby The South Falls » Tue Feb 11, 2020 7:57 pm

Farnhamia wrote:
The South Falls wrote:Honestly, democracy isn't the way. I think a goat-operated plutocracy is the proper way to administer a state, and anyone who says otherwise will be terminated when my state is realized.

Kyrusia doesn't want the responsibility.

Well, he has one of the closest things to supreme power on this website. It's only like, 300 million more people.

But, anyway, I don't want buttegieg to win. I don't like his South Bend record, so much so that I'm not inclined to vote for him.
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Postby New Bremerton » Tue Feb 11, 2020 7:58 pm

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Postby Zurkerx » Tue Feb 11, 2020 7:58 pm

Farnhamia wrote:
Zurkerx wrote:
Sanders, based on CNN, has 26.7%; Buttigieg has 23.8%; Klobuchar 19.9%. 59% is so far in.

I'm watching live.

Oh, percentage difference between them. Gotcha. *tells Guards to send the pamphlet on "Clarity In Posting"*


My apologies.

Kowani wrote:
Zurkerx wrote:
Sanders, based on CNN, has 26.7%; Buttigieg has 23.8%; Klobuchar 19.9%. 59% is so far in.

I'm watching live.

Don’t forget, the university towns-where Bernie pretty much dominates, haven’t reported in yet.


They haven't? Hmm, then that could change things. I guess we shall see.
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